What time makes a proper runner a runner

In response to a BBC website article

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04/09/2012 at 14:27

I want one that says "I'll still be going this pace in 40 miles.....will you?"

04/09/2012 at 14:33

....or even 'i will still be running in 40 miles .......will you?'

04/09/2012 at 14:34

Just realised I bought a copy of Running Fitness this month. I'd bought Outdoor Fitness the previous month and, although I liked it, I thought I'd try a more running oriented magazine (not Runners World - looks awful). I'll be going back to Outdoor Fitness I think. Running Fitness was very flimsy and lightweight and offered very little insight.

04/09/2012 at 14:46

Running Fitness used to be okay, but they had a revamp about 5 months ago, put the price down considerably....and made it a pretty crap magazine tbh....

I've given up on all of them to be fair - it's the same with any hobby, a yearly cycle of the same rehashed articles... it was the same when I was a photographer - how to photograph snow in winter, bluebells in spring, water in summer and trees in autumn...every magazine every year!

It's the same with the running mags, how to prep for your spring marathon (i'm not doing one, I couldn't think of a worse fate than being in VLM), how to use your marathon fitness to set a new 5 or 10k PB in summer (what marathon fitness, I told you, I'm not doing one), how to train less and achieve more (cobblers, it's a computer term GIGO - garbage in, garbage out!), how to eat the latest superfood to lose 3st and run twice as fast (cobblers, eat a sensible diet all the time, it's a lot healthier), how to stay fit while not going out in the rain (stop being a wuss, it's only rain or snow, what, you wouldn't do your race you'd paid for if it was raining?!) etc etc - oh and some gear reviews that cherry pick the latest products that just happen to have full page adverts in said magazine....


04/09/2012 at 14:57

ooo Mr rantypants

04/09/2012 at 15:04

I haven't even warmed up

04/09/2012 at 15:09

im off................

04/09/2012 at 15:19
ultrarocker wrote (see)

I want one that says "I'll still be going this pace in 40 miles.....will you?"

You either start bloody slow, or have exceptional stamina.

Which is it

04/09/2012 at 15:22

;) As the name...I'm an ultrarunner.... I run slowly.... for miles and miles and miles....

04/09/2012 at 15:29

In funny socks.

04/09/2012 at 15:42

we start slow.....get slower up hill or walk...and keep on goinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng....and yes MattDA...we wear funny socks, arm sleeves,buffs.......and a BIG watch

04/09/2012 at 15:48

Nooo, not funny socks - I wear calf guards now, that's even weirder!

Lou, don't forget the backpack and the headtorch and the map as well...

Edited: 04/09/2012 at 15:51
04/09/2012 at 15:51

I'd say anyone who runs regularly (say at least once per week, most weeks) is a "proper" runner. I don't think you need to be quick or run a long way or run races to be a proper runner.

As for what constitutes a good result, I've always been happy if I finish in the top half.

04/09/2012 at 15:56

Well said Tom - it doesn't matter how far, or how fast..... if you run, you're a runner, simple as that!

And results are all relative anyway - I could enter a 10k event in the middle of nowhere and come in the top 20% - I could enter a 10k in the middle of a city on a fast course, run the same time and finish in the last third!

04/09/2012 at 16:28

And there was me thinking that all you Ultra guys ran like Anton Krupicka.

04/09/2012 at 16:30

ah man and there was me training to be an ultrarunner just to be told "im not a runner"!   oh well best to just give up then!

"proper" runner? so not like the ministry of silly walks then?

I knew I was doing something wrong! 

04/09/2012 at 16:32
MattDA wrote (see)

And there was me thinking that all you Ultra guys ran like Anton Krupicka.

Nahhh, the Yanks like to do it the easy way with aid stations every 5 miles, pacers, support crews etc etc - the European self supported way is much more fun

Besides - have you seen how blue you go if you try running topless across the Peak District?!?!?

04/09/2012 at 16:34
MattDA wrote (see)

And there was me thinking that all you Ultra guys ran like Anton Krupicka.

actually i am training in hauraches!  Guilty as charged! Though not a "proper" ultrarunner yet! ha ha ha but thats a whole new thread! 

04/09/2012 at 16:37

What utter nonsense.

A runner is a runner, it doesn't matter about your speed or distance, it's about the passion you have for running.

04/09/2012 at 17:21

Didn't he also say: "To finish any marathon is an achievement. In his position, he was just over-egging the pudding. He is not the first and he certainly won't be the last."

I'd say his 3:30/ 4:00 comments look more like they were being aimed at high level runners, although he was unfortunate to be quoted as saying "runners"/ "proper runners", and most articles I've seen set the benchmark for that level at 3:00 - so he was being generous if you read it that way.

I wouldn't take offence so easily, without having more context on this.

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