Why can't I lose my belly and get a 6 pack

RicF wrote (see)

What about gels then?

Avit you can't spell potato.

Nor does he have a handle on grammar  - but I feel a tad churlish pointing it out.

And on the left we have SG, and on the right Avit

 Bring it on.

A speed typing contest might be more applicable around here.

oh I c, because Im not a RW veteran and I dont comment on every boring pointless thread on here makes me in some way a bad runner/athlete?

As for the quotations I was having trouble even responding, must have been the sites fault, as quotes wouldnt show, but of course you'd know all about that having 10k posts..

Lol to the above picture, have you seen the end of this film? I do believe the right wins

Love how forums inspire ppl to become so confident when they are hiding behind a keyboard. all from me giving dietry advice that you guys dont agree with, but have no backup for your own comments... dear me, you must have some sad lives.

Let me guess what comes next.. a bunch of comments all from RW veterans who think they know everything/everyone. Its like that feeling you get when you walk into a working mens club and your not from the area... *claps slowly* for all you 'professional' athletes who are so amazing but have never won a race in your life....

he wins he has a professional action shot of him running for his RW profile picture.. I mean who can compete with that!?......

oh then we've got RichF who also has one, plus he has a stern expression....

then theres gym addict.. omg they must be amazing with a name like that

Avit is being rather aggressive, but most of what he says is true. Sorry, those arguing no six pack due to genetics are completely wrong.

Plus western nations do eat too many carbs these days and science is starting to provide links between that and obesity. They are also starting to declare that we've been sold a marketing lie for generations. Low fat is completely wrong for weight loss. Full fat is actually better. The people I know that buffed on paleo their breakfast is fried bacon and eggs. We now have a abundance of carbohydrates in our diet. Most of this is a modern invention. Cereals are reasonably modern. Historically in the UK our carb intake would have been some bread and some from veg such as potatoes. We didn't eat rice, pizza or pasta. Even worse if you are in the USA and they add corn syrup to nearly everything thanks to the agricultural lobbyists.

Think bout it, most peoples diets are completely unbalanced.

Breakfast: Cereal/toast = carbs

Lunch: Sandwiches = carbs

Dinner: Rice or pasta based dish = carbs

Then add a dose of sugar with the snacks.

Now as most on this forum are distance runners we get away with it. We use the energy those carbs provide. The general population doesn't and the science dictates that our bodies store those excess carbs as fat at a far greater rate than animal fat, which we have been told to avoid.

Can anyone who wants it get a six pack, well yes. Just like anyone can get out and run a 10km if they really want it. Am I going to give up bread, rice, pizza and pasta hell no. I'd rather be unbuff and enjoy my grub.

thats what i was trying to say but until someone comes along to back you up its hard for you to get your point across to people without force. The above is 100% correct, so thanks for posting this.

Maybe the 'brainwashed' will actually listen.. but i doubt it

avit wrote (see)

oh I c, because Im not a RW veteran and I dont comment on every boring pointless thread on here makes me in some way a bad runner/athlete?

As for the quotations I was having trouble even responding, must have been the sites fault, as quotes wouldnt show, but of course you'd know all about that having 10k posts..

Lol to the above picture, have you seen the end of this film? I do believe the right wins

Love how forums inspire ppl to become so confident when they are hiding behind a keyboard. all from me giving dietry advice that you guys dont agree with, but have no backup for your own comments... dear me, you must have some sad lives.

Let me guess what comes next.. a bunch of comments all from RW veterans who think they know everything/everyone. Its like that feeling you get when you walk into a working mens club and your not from the area... *claps slowly* for all you 'professional' athletes who are so amazing but have never won a race in your life....

 Amit, the moment I read your piece about the footballer, loaf of bread and bacon. I could tell you knew your stuff. 

We do actually read all the postings, but its easier for most of us if the info doesn't appear in one massive hit. 

If you take your subject and self too seriously then its likely you'll get a set of reactions like you did.

Rest assured, most of its a wind up but don't assume we've ignored what you've put down. 

Its club Rhetorical around here. 

If you were really wrong and dull with it, most likely you'rd get zero replies.

 Oh! the picture of the karate kid. I already knew that the 'kid' on the right won. I've seen the film. Its one reason I posted it. 

Some strong broscience and internet tough guys in this thread, shame I cba to read most of it.

The truth be told if you really want to understand how to get a six pack I dont believe runners world is the best place to get advice on it.

Bodybuilding and running are pretty different goals and aren't neccessarily easy to combine. 

As someone who's running has been limited by injuries throughout last year and again into this year, when I started picking things up and putting them down (lifting) and following a bodybuilders diet I really noticed the difference in my body.

Genetics are believed to play a role in when your AB's will become visable, personally mine start showing at around 15% body fat thought this can be different for different guys. Note - showing.  It takes a lot more effort to get that really cut and defined look.

The key determinant in getting them to show is low bodyfat, so if they aren't showing now that means you need to lose more weight.  As noted in some of the posts above there are other factors involved, although there seems to be a lot of disagreement out there as to what really makes a difference.  Pro bodybuilders will indeed avoid salts and sugars, carb cycle, etc to get that ultra lean look.

However, if the only exercise you do is running and you don't work your core out at all your ab's are probably gonna look shit anyway.

This 2 minute piece of broscience was brought to you by Running Manlet.  Please submit your flames after the tone.

avit wrote (see)

oh I c, because Im not a RW veteran and I dont comment on every boring pointless thread on here makes me in some way a bad runner/athlete?

As for the quotations I was having trouble even responding, must have been the sites fault, as quotes wouldnt show, but of course you'd know all about that having 10k posts..

Lol to the above picture, have you seen the end of this film? I do believe the right wins

Love how forums inspire ppl to become so confident when they are hiding behind a keyboard. all from me giving dietry advice that you guys dont agree with, but have no backup for your own comments... dear me, you must have some sad lives.

Let me guess what comes next.. a bunch of comments all from RW veterans who think they know everything/everyone. Its like that feeling you get when you walk into a working mens club and your not from the area... *claps slowly* for all you 'professional' athletes who are so amazing but have never won a race in your life....

so angry!

just to backtrack here...

• noone's claiming to even be close to a professional athlete here!
• I was gently joking with Ric about his quote job not yours, as he's a regular on here, yet managed to quote half a page and not add a comment
• You called me lazy, based on an assumption that my post tally means I never run! Ignoring that the posts have been made over the best part of 10 years!
• You then took the mileage i quoted as some kind of boast versus what you may or not do! When, i didn't ask, or care!

For what it's worth i couldn't care less about 6 packs...when you get a bit older you realise staying fit and healthy is way more important!

Chill out relax, get yourself a little photo and we'll all go on to be great buddies

Yes indeed.

I made a right bollox of the quote thing.

What I was trying to do was collate all the posts (massive and full of detail) in one great lump and then; in an attempt at humour, add just one word at the bottom.

Explain!

However, the posting Gods had decided that was a piss take too far and I found I couldn't add it [the word]

maybe you should run more Ric, as I'm sure those 1,650 posts of yours have been over the last year

avit - I am by no means an expert in food, apart from being able to consume large qunatities of it.

There are a couple of your comments in this thread that dont make sense to me so would appreciate it if you could clarify what you mean - firstly you say "If you eating food provided by nature you wont go far wrong" and then you say "Fruit is very high in sugar and will make yu put on weight if you eat lots of it" (copied and pasted from earlier in this thread)

To me, those two comments of yours seem to contradict each other ? 

Not wanting to add to the flames, but most of those Kenyans based out in Iten have 6 packs. One of their main foods if Ugali.  Stick them on a paleo diet and I'm sure we will have a sub 2hr marathon.

Apologies in advance for having a picture on my profile when I have not even served my apprentice year on RW

carterusm wrote (see)

avit - I am by no means an expert in food, apart from being able to consume large qunatities of it.

There are a couple of your comments in this thread that dont make sense to me so would appreciate it if you could clarify what you mean - firstly you say "If you eating food provided by nature you wont go far wrong" and then you say "Fruit is very high in sugar and will make yu put on weight if you eat lots of it" (copied and pasted from earlier in this thread)

To me, those two comments of yours seem to contradict each other ? 

His reasoning was wrong on that. Although most people on a paleo style diet will avoid fruit as tends to be high in natural sugars. A paleo way of life would have you snack on nuts and naturally fatty foods rather than naturally or otherwise sugary foods. The main basis of their meals will always be meat and veg and eggs at breakfast.

The thing to remember is paleo is not a no carb diet, but a low carb one. What they tend to be fussy about is where those carbohydrates come from. Things like potatoes in small quantities are viewed as fine, sweet potato seems to be a favourite among them and even small portions of white rice tend to be welcomed. Things like bread or anything grain based is pretty much viewed as a toxin by them. Although I'd argue they vastly overstate some of the populations gluten intolerance as a reason why grains are a toxin.

It does highlight the failure of bad science marketing and government campaigns though. Marketing smoothies as healthy when the sugar count is through the roof. Low fat yoghurt's that are high in sugar. The five a day campaign, which has no scientific grounding at all. The constant bombardment that fatty food is bad food, but ignores the sugar levels in most full fat alternatives.

The concept that you can't do endurance of paleo is false too. There are a number of paleo Ironmen out there, and one of the gits that took to it that I know utterly destroys me in a 10km.

And with all that said I plan to stuff my face with pasta after tonight's run. No bread, screw that.

also ran - but i think avit is saying they burn those calories off training, hence are zero carb remain (or thereabouts) and why you can see the 6 pack.

fuck 6 packs - just go for the full keg look..

[pats belly....]

I'd quite like a 6 pack......of dohnuts

mmmmm dohnuts

i always thought that the natural sugars in fruit are fine.

albeit dont eat tescos worth, but apart from the teeth thing the dentists are going on about ATM (acid erosion) fruits good isnt it??