Why would an average marathon runner such as Claire Squires take drugs to...

cougie wrote (see)

The supplement jack3d that she had doesn't seem to be one for runners. I've certainly not come across it. Even the name makes it sound like a bodybuilders drug ?

I don't think it's in the same category as energy gel. WADA banned Jack3d. Not sure when but they've never banned gels.

Cougs, exactly my thinking which is why I suggested them checking out her gym activity, not the unfortunate end vehicle of running. It's not a running story!

For my sins I read a lot of body builder type blogs and they are full of discussions of this type of stuff. I am sure () that the stuff I read about it all perfectly legal and had no side effects whatsoever. But, like you guys my first thought was that it sounded more like one of those things than something a runner would normally take.

However - whevever someone young and fit dies unexpectedly - I feel less anxious for my fellow runners and for my own health if there is a specific cause.

kittenkat wrote (see)

It's a really sad thing, but if you make it about running you are condeming more people to die sitting on their couches, which indeed they do...

 

You made some really good points kittenkat.  Especially this one.

Hopefully Amelia Hill will do a balance report for the Guardian.

Actually, I've just read your contributions to the thread. I don't think would be helpful for us to speak.

All best, Amelia

Ok, your brief is that you have to blame running I guess? Or make it look like in the non elite running community, people feel the need to take supplements with promises...

Run Wales wrote (see)

kittenkat wrote (see)

It's a really sad thing, but if you make it about running you are condeming more people to die sitting on their couches, which indeed they do...

 

You made some really good points kittenkat.  Especially this one.

Hopefully Amelia Hill will do a balance report for the Guardian.

See the very brief email conversation above I had with apparently 'The Guardian'.

*Sigh*

No

I guess you're working late and feeling a bit pissy? Fancy trying another angle, we're actually nice people...

Oh well, let's see how this gets misreported... and on...and on...

For an apparant 'Guardian' employee to email me in such an unprofessional and childish way. Fuck me guys, get your minions sorted.

If you read the Grauniad, especially on-line, you will know how bad their journalistic standards have dropped. Rusbridger the editor has sacked everyone; it's all freelancers writing "sensational" stories just to get their internet profile up.

It's not quite the Daily Mail but it's getting close.

I do think this would be a really good subject for Runners' World to look at.

What's available on-line and what you should avoid, most of the readers are newbies doing first longer runs. There must be some temptation to take "magic" potions.

In our running club it's Beetroot juice and some disgusting V8 type drink that are "flavour" of the month.

Piers wrote (see)

If you read the Grauniad, especially on-line, you will know how bad their journalistic standards have dropped. Rusbridger the editor has sacked everyone; it's all freelancers writing "sensational" stories just to get their internet profile up.

It's not quite the Daily Mail but it's getting close.

This journalist obviously has no idea about the running world at all, not her fault maybe because she's been detailed to get a 'story', but you might as well write  a fairytale... Which seems to be happening.

And my exclamation that it's not a running story has obviously singed her. I feel a letter to the Editor coming on somewhere down the line, after she's completely discarded the opinions of long established runners.

I'm not "singed", Kate, I'm busy filing a piece. I'm afraid I felt that your immediate responses to my request for people's experiences were aggressive and prejudicial. I want to write a reasoned, balanced article - which means I don't want to talk to people who accuse me of being illiterate or who assume I report "like the Daily Crap."  I came to Runner's World because I took it to be a hub of rational, fair debate. To find myself 'trolled' after posting a simple request, has disabused me of that assumption. Goodnight all.

legal running stimulants  - does these actually exist? Other than caffeine of course.