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seren nos    pirate
31/01/2013 at 12:12
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)

I take caffiene gels as they do not provide coca cola and i can't go more than a couple of hours awake without some

 

seren nos wrote (see)

I take caffiene gels as they do not provide coca cola and i can't go more than a couple of hours awake without some

But all caffeine does is speed up your nervous system, your nervous system is already up and about (kind of hard to be sleep walking your way around a marathon course).

Slow release energy, not caffeine is what you want.

thanks for the advice David............but maybe you should wait until your marathon time is faster than this overweight middle aged housewife

31/01/2013 at 12:12

Thanks Rafiki - I was beginning to think I was talking to myself

31/01/2013 at 12:14
GymAddict wrote (see)

Does no-one read the science?  Or have you all got me on ignore?

 

The benefits of caffeine is not the 'stimulate' part - necessarily - it's the 'release the fat' part.

 

 

I agree with you! I'm not against caffeine gels per se, but I do think that given it is a stimulant (regardless of that not being the reason it is included in gels etc) it would be wise for someone with an existing heart condition to check with their cardiologist whether it was safe for them to use it during a race or any other activity where their heartrate would be elevated.

Edited: 31/01/2013 at 12:15
31/01/2013 at 12:19
GymAddict wrote (see)

Does no-one read the science?  Or have you all got me on ignore?

 

The benefits of caffeine is not the 'stimulate' part - necessarily - it's the 'release the fat' part.

 

 

 

seren nos wrote (see)
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)

I take caffiene gels as they do not provide coca cola and i can't go more than a couple of hours awake without some

 

seren nos wrote (see)

I take caffiene gels as they do not provide coca cola and i can't go more than a couple of hours awake without some

But all caffeine does is speed up your nervous system, your nervous system is already up and about (kind of hard to be sleep walking your way around a marathon course).

Slow release energy, not caffeine is what you want.

thanks for the advice David............but maybe you should wait until your marathon time is faster than this overweight middle aged housewife

Bwhahhaa!!! OK fair enough.

Anyways Im not taking caffeine no matter what, you lot go for your life.

I'd rather put in extra time in the gym

K80
31/01/2013 at 12:31
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

Bwhahhaa!!! OK fair enough.

Anyways Im not taking caffeine no matter what, you lot go for your life.

I'd rather put in extra time in the gym

Ay, it's nice and warm in the gym. Can't help feel that a bona fide runner would be training outside

31/01/2013 at 12:32

Yes, if first aid is for wimps surely gyms are too? 

31/01/2013 at 12:33
K80 wrote (see)
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

Bwhahhaa!!! OK fair enough.

Anyways Im not taking caffeine no matter what, you lot go for your life.

I'd rather put in extra time in the gym

Ay, it's nice and warm in the gym. Can't help feel that a bona fide runner would be training outside

I do run outside on long runs, but the gym also allows you to do cross trainer and rowing to help ease the stress on the joints.

Remember its about training smarter not longer

31/01/2013 at 12:37
xine267 wrote (see)

Yes, if first aid is for wimps surely gyms are too? 

Only in Rocky 3 can a guy run outside in the blistering cold and beat a guy who spent his whole time training in the gym with scientific equipment his every movement.

31/01/2013 at 12:53

... I do all my running outside, never go near the gym.  From memory, my marathon time is at least half-hour quicker than yours ... 

31/01/2013 at 12:58
stutyr wrote (see)

... I do all my running outside, never go near the gym.  From memory, my marathon time is at least half-hour quicker than yours ... 

Slightly unfair as Im relatively new to this lark ......

Of course if you had only started running since Xmas, then I take it all back

Anyway basing the results purely on end times is a little simplistic. If I spent 1 hour a day learning German using one method, and you spent 3 hours a day learning German using another method, and then after a year we did a test and you could only speak German slightly better than I could would that prove that your method was better?

 

31/01/2013 at 13:07

It would if he enjoyed learning German. 

GA - Thanks, I don't think I'd heard about the fat-releasing angle.  I'll have my usual morning coffee, out of habit more than anything else, but aim on getting round the race on water and sugary drinks.

31/01/2013 at 13:10
PhilPub wrote (see)

It would if he enjoyed learning German. 

GA - Thanks, I don't think I'd heard about the fat-releasing angle.  I'll have my usual morning coffee, out of habit more than anything else, but aim on getting round the race on water and sugary drinks.

See thats what I like about Phil .... he doesn't take shortcuts ..... look at him. He has a face that says 'Sure Ive had a tough life, but so what...'

Good on ya Phil.

(Im only taking the P there Phil)

K80
31/01/2013 at 13:16
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)
stutyr wrote (see)

... I do all my running outside, never go near the gym.  From memory, my marathon time is at least half-hour quicker than yours ... 

Slightly unfair as Im relatively new to this lark ......

Of course if you had only started running since Xmas, then I take it all back

Anyway basing the results purely on end times is a little simplistic. If I spent 1 hour a day learning German using one method, and you spent 3 hours a day learning German using another method, and then after a year we did a test and you could only speak German slightly better than I could would that prove that your method was better?

 

I have to say that DF3 reminds me of my teenage son. I'm baffled by his logic and unable to offer counter argument, I just have to laugh out loud

P.S. Don't knock Rocky 3, it's one of the best films ever, ever, ever.

Rafiki    pirate
31/01/2013 at 13:24

I'm sure its Rocky IV where he trains in Siberia in the snow ...... although if I've got this wrong, I'd be almost be relieved!!!

31/01/2013 at 13:25
Rafiki wrote (see)

I'm sure its Rocky IV where he trains in Siberia in the snow ...... although if I've got this wrong, I'd be almost be relieved!!!

I thought that was when he trained the Taliban against the Russians ........ oh .... hang on ...... now Im confused!

31/01/2013 at 13:29
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

I do run outside on long runs, but the gym also allows you to do cross trainer and rowing to help ease the stress on the joints.

Remember its about training smarter not longer


David - are you featured in this video at all 

31/01/2013 at 13:39

Pretty sure it's Rocky IV when he fights Ivan Drago.  It's dedicated to the Afghans.

Rocky III is against Clubber Lang aka Mr T.

Rafiki    pirate
31/01/2013 at 13:41

Completely off topic, but it does prove david wrong  Rocky IV - "To avenge Apollo, Rocky challenges Drago to a rematch, which is to be held Christmas Day in Moscow. In a montage replete with symbolism, Rocky is shown training in a remote cabin in Siberia with the help of Creed's old trainer Duke, his brother-in-law Paulie and (eventually) Adrian, doing exercises such as chopping wood, lifting rocks, running in the snow and climbing a mountain filled with snow"

31/01/2013 at 13:44

Rocky IV at the Catford cinema was the highest level of audience participation I've ever seen.  Everyone was going mental.  Maybe it was a Catford thing.

31/01/2013 at 13:46

A big, ironic thank you to the principal contributors to this forum thread.  You have portrayed runners to the wider community as angry, hysterical, ranting, obnoxious arseholes.

That Guardian journalist to whom you were so effortlessly offensive, wrote a piece that was a model of objective balance, honesty and sensitivity.  I'm not surprised that she was made to feel unwelcome here.  You should be ashamed.  I certainly will not be coming to this troll-domain for intelligent discussion in the future.

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