Just beat my HM PB by 9 minutes :D

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30/01/2010 at 22:24
Well done D2D ... 21:30 is very good ... along way from sub-20 (and I still think your mapmyrun distances are way out) but still a good time. My PB is 21:25 ... I feel sub-20 is a long way off for me.
31/01/2010 at 08:20
OK, Katy it is! The best way to get people to do something in a chat room like this, is to tell them not to!

Can't you run with a garmin GPS? Your "guessed distance" boasts and "map my run distance" boasts have both been proved wrong. GPS boasts would be fine - had you boasted about a 21 minute 5k rather than a sub 20 5k, it would have been perfectly defendable.

AND you could see how you were improving, and tailor your training. For the mileage you do, you should be going under a 3 hour marathon. No need for a schedule, but better feedback data might be useful!
31/01/2010 at 10:32
Well done D2D, that's a good time.  My first 5k was a little faster than that, and I did go on to sub-20 4 times.  So keep going.  I do still think your training routes are not accurate though.
31/01/2010 at 10:43

May I suggest that D2D and Mr Puffy define the exact terms of their bet? Is the winner going to be the person who takes the most minutes of their mara time or the one who makes the biggest percentage improvement?

edited - of course, if you current times are very similar it will be one and the same!

Edited: 31/01/2010 at 10:45
31/01/2010 at 11:06

Are you a business systems analyst slugsta? Good call!

Best thing would be the biggest % improvement in WAVA.

I have met Mr P and lets just say D2D has a few years on him

31/01/2010 at 11:09
No, JB, I'm a humble nurse - but am used to looking critically at research statistics.
31/01/2010 at 11:25

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe i read that D2D's time is 3:45, and puffys is 3:46, so theres really no difference.

31/01/2010 at 11:32

But 3:45 for a male of mature years and 3:46 for a young female are different when you adjust for age and sex?

You're comparing apples and oranges innit.

31/01/2010 at 12:53

I agree, but not if you go by London good for age places,

Women 18-49  sub 3.45

Men        41-59  sub 3.15!!!

31/01/2010 at 12:58

The London GFA qualification time for older blokes is a joke, innit?

31/01/2010 at 13:02

The london quali time for all ages is a joke!

I'm looking forward to being 70.... in 34 yrs time...

31/01/2010 at 13:15
The difference in GFA times between males and females is skewed - should be no more than 20 minutes to be "fair".
It's based on numbers, not comparative difficulty.
31/01/2010 at 13:20

Well, the original wager was simply based on time, because our pb's are very similar, but I don't mind either way, I am happy to leave that up to D2D?  I am 48, I have the heart and lungs of a 25 year old and the liver of a corpse.

31/01/2010 at 13:38
I hope the 25 year old didn't mind you taking them!
31/01/2010 at 13:48

Shall we just go with whoever gets a faster time?

To the above posts - yes, my PB is 3:45 & Puffy's 3:46 so they're pretty much the same.

Ran LSR this morning, 13.1* miles (according to MapMyRun) in 1:34. (However you look at it, that's 2 minutes faster than last week) - thing is, I'm having real trouble trying to slow down. I'm not finding the pace uncomfortable so I just generally go with what feels natural.

Really wasn't in the mood this morning, aimed to get out before 8am and ended up leaving about 10:15. Saw a load of other runners out there which lifted my spirits somewhat & made me laugh when it started to snow & I was in shorts and a vest.

Thing is, I raced that 5k yesterday & biked & did weights (Saturday is supposed to be my rest day) - so I felt like I needed to run slower today but I just couldn't.

I think this may be because my stride length has shortened tremendously & my cadence has got higher. As a result, I can't seem to find a middle ground between high cadence/comfortable pace & slowing down with a high cadence? (Without widening my stride again)

Question is, do I really need to slow down if I'm enjoying the run & finding it comfortable?

That was hypothetic of course - don't go thinking I was asking advice

Phillis - You can still call me D2D. I only get annoyed when people call me D2D in real life. When I ran that 10k, someone came up to me and said 'Are you D2D?'

Edited: 31/01/2010 at 13:50
31/01/2010 at 15:25

I'm sure someone more technical can explain why, but I also find it very hard to run slow during the week after a 5K or 10K.  I am capable of running an awful lot faster for no apparent extra effort.  Personally, I always concentrate on keeping the pace back to where it shoud be. (Going out and running a Half distance in a "PB" time the day after a 5K, and the week after a previous Half "PB" sounds like the fastrack to injury method)

If I see you at Stratford, I shall definately be calling you Devoted2Distance when I say hello. K**y just sounds all wrong.

31/01/2010 at 15:48

I wonder if my next race will drum up so much interest on this forum? 

 hmmmmmmmm............ thought not! 

31/01/2010 at 17:52
Devoted2Distance wrote (see)

Shall we just go with whoever gets a faster time?


You've got the youth, the looks, now you want a head start!

Either - old pb minus new pb, simple figures

or - time on 25th adjusted to that WAVA thing that JB knows.

I would be happy for a 3rd party to check all the figures, 2 if you like.

31/01/2010 at 19:28

Haha, head start - didn't think about that.

Let's go with old PB minus new PB (that's assuming you can manage a new PB )

Vicky - I don't quite see why everyone's so bothered to be honest.

31/01/2010 at 19:31
WAVA score improvements would be a much fairer way of doing it
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