You know these women only running event things ...is there a particular reason

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13/02/2013 at 15:43

I'm a 30, 6'4, 17 stone male and I'm intimidated running with other men (And will be bricking it when I do my half next month) - esepcially as a relative novice. So i totally understand why women would feel intimidated.

Its my impression that R4L is a reason for women to get running that probably don't already run - probably the perfect end goal for a lady starting a C25K program.

And if it gets them started they may continue running and join more serious mixed event races. Which means the sport will be much the better for everyone

13/02/2013 at 15:59

Between Nessie73 and Mattywarr they have the answer sussed completely here  

 

13/02/2013 at 16:05
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)
I hate when someone comes in with an intelligent and reasoned debating point .......

I forgot to to include the word "Annoying" in my introduction

Tommygun2    pirate
13/02/2013 at 16:09

Just as to prolong this interesting debate, how does the forum feel about women only running clubs then.

WiB
13/02/2013 at 16:11

Less spectator friendly than the races.

WiB
Tommygun2    pirate
13/02/2013 at 16:15

Like this one which is local to me

13/02/2013 at 16:21

 

Tommygun2 wrote (see)

Like this one which is local to me

The most offensive part of that club is their pricing!! Charge for membership, then charge to do a beginners course too? Our local club offers beginners sessions, slow pacing runs for free!

Tommygun2    pirate
13/02/2013 at 16:31

There was also the Womens Running Network but I think that went" tits up" a year or so ago.

So women only events and clubs are allowed in this world of equality.

Not that it bothers me in the slightest...........

Tommygun2    pirate
13/02/2013 at 16:37

Its not just women only running around my way they even have a women only clycling club  

13/02/2013 at 16:37

I don't care either way, but imagine the reaction to a Men Only running club!

13/02/2013 at 18:47

Why would anyone pay money to learn to run 10k's or 1/2 marathons?

 

seren nos    pirate
13/02/2013 at 18:58

and we still go back to the fact that there are mens only rugby clubs, hockey clubs, cricket clubs etc..........no one cares..........so whats the problems with womens only clubs if people want to pay for them............

 i wouldn't want to go to one but if there wasn't a demand and a need they wouldn't be there

13/02/2013 at 19:28

Anything that encourages more people into the sport is a good thing. No reason to feel threatened over this one!

A lot of people, men and women get put off joining clubs as they fear they'll look out of place, or be miles slower.

So a woman only event just sounds a great intro, similar to the running sisters clubs. They're a good starter vehicle, and often see newbies moving into the more established clubs when confident.

Edited: 13/02/2013 at 19:30
13/02/2013 at 20:33
Tommygun...there's a blokes only running club advertised in Sevenoak's Tesco so the men of Sevenoaks have taken matters into their own hands.
Tommygun2    pirate
13/02/2013 at 21:27

Good for them UC, I don't have any problem with mens only or womens only stuff as I will never bother joining a club anyway. I know a few women who are members of the 7oaks ladies jogger and as far as I can see its just a social thing that the mums do during school time.

13/02/2013 at 22:31
I can't take that club seriously as their long run is four or five miles and faster group is too slow...I looked at it as a way to get to know a few others round here but I can just imagine trying to explain the concept of an ultra to them...my old club didn't get it!

FWIW I only started running because of R4L...the offered a walk/run to running 5k programme that got me started. Wouldn't have bothered me if there had been blokes doing it too...it was more the programme that I needed as I hadn't discovered RW back then
13/02/2013 at 22:38
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)
Tommygun2 wrote (see)

Just as to prolong this interesting debate, how does the forum feel about women only running clubs then.

Im not sure womens only running clubs would work. I imagine it would go a bit like this.

"OK girls, today we are going to do a 20 minute run, a 10 minute walk, followed by another 20 minute run. Then afterwards, we can try some of the new Strawberry Cheesecake at Cafe Cuppa down the road."

"Ooooh that sounds nice. Does that come with extra cream does anyone know?"

"I think it does, but I might stick to the chocolate cheesecake they do as I know thats delicious."

"Oh yes I like chocolate cheesecake too, oh its so hard to choose."

"Should we go down now and have a look which is better?"

"Yes, lets go ........"

...... and basically there goes the training session .......

Seriously..?

DF3, I personally never gave a thought to women's only races or running clubs. But now I can see the attraction - mainly based on keeping away from total misogynists, gender-stereotying, cliche-thinking people like some... 

 

15/02/2013 at 18:51
Eggyh73 wrote (see)

There seems to be two reasons for these events.

One is that some women sadly don't feel comfortable running with guys about. Be that due to vanity, thinking guys will look down on them for running and getting sweaty or being body concious and thinking men will judge them when they aren't in full make-up etc.

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But if the guys are watching it's easier to see them sweating etc?  Whereas if the guys were running they'd be concentrating on that rather than how fat or sweaty the women are?  It's a pathetic argument.  

I'm not convinced by women-only events but as I have said before on this forum, it's quite nice to come in a long way up the field, rather than having 100 men in front of you.  But that's the only advantage as far as I can see. I've taken part in ladies-only events in Windsor, Glasgow and Devon since becoming more serious runner and enjoyed them.  But I enjoy mixed events as well.

I should say that I got into running because of R4L and about 10 years ago pre-child, I also got into running briefly through what was then the Flora Light Challenge in Hyde Park.  But that was in the days before parkrun, and I would have thought that created enough of an unthreatening environment to start running these days. R4L isn't the force it was, so maybe eventually they will open the events to both sexes.

15/02/2013 at 20:31

I don't know about other people- but my local parkrun has a bit of an absence of younger women. I'm in the 25-29 category and despite being pretty slow am often told in my result that I'm the 1st or 2nd woman in my age group, and there are only a handful of regulars who are younger than mid-30s/40. There do seem to be more women 40+ but I think that might be because there is a very active local ladies running club that seems to target that group and they've been very supportive of the parkrun. I have a lot of friends who are non-serious runners and most of them seem very apprehensive about going to a parkrun, particularly if they run on their own- maybe women are just less confident about mass running, and so women only running events are seen as less intimidating? 

15/02/2013 at 21:12

But why should anyone have a go at you !!

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