Anti-depressants & training

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01/10/2003 at 08:44
Not good this morning, no motivation to do anything and very tired/listless. Good job the body is used to heading to make coffee before the brain is actually with it, otherwise I'd still be in bed.

Walking beside the Thames this morning, had a great urge just to sit and watch the river go by for the day. Better than wanting to attempt to walk on it...

I suppose "not good" is the pesimistic way of looking at, due to feeling totally drained.

running out of words already.
01/10/2003 at 09:50

Sorry today has had a bit of a bum start (pardon the expression). I get days where my get up and go has got up and gone!

I have days where I sit on my backside watching tv when I know I should be doing housework etc but just don't have the wherewithall to do it. I guess that is just how the depression affects us at the time. Glad you had a walk out and that you decided not to copy Jesus's little jaunt on water!

If you feel drained, take it easy. Make sure you eat regularly (ie don't miss out any meals) as this will make you feel worse.

Be kind to yourself - you are going through hell and, at times, it is difficult enough just to exist without doing anything else. Take things gently and slowly.

Do you belong to a running club or a gym? Do any of your friends do any sport or activities that they could invite you along to? Sometimes it's easier to do things when invited than having to motivate yourself.

Sorry, I'm waffling. I hope some of this makes sense. Trying not to preach - I am terrible at being able to advise other people what they should be doing but not doing it myself!!

Feel free to e-mail me offlist if you want. Whereabouts are you geographically?

I am in Oxfordshire.

Hope the day gets better for you.

01/10/2003 at 14:16
Hi CC. You sound like you're feeling better today and don't worry we're all very good with giving advice, but lousy at following our own.

To answer part of your questions and the point from Hipps, I was born for comfort not sport. Running-wise, I train alone, partly because there is no pressure and no-one else to see me struggle. SuperPootle has offered to be a training partner and I think that would be good at weekends.

None of the neighbourhood friends do anything energetic (I don't think snooker counts due to the amount of alcohol involved), but I could go at lunchtime at work - but again its back to the not being confortable with myself at the moment. With the weather getting colder at he ends of the day I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet on that one and start going at lunchtime.

Today is just pants!

Can't get going, ahve lots to do and no motivation to do it (spot the vicious circle developing here). I can't believe how tired I feel given the amount of sleep I've been getting. I think I need a very early night tonight and see if that helps.
01/10/2003 at 14:19
Do just one thing, Staggers. Choose a small task that you can complete, and do it.

Then you'll have done something, your list of things to do will be shorter, and you might just feel a little better.
01/10/2003 at 14:24
good point Vrap, thank you.
01/10/2003 at 22:47
Hi Staggers

I've been on Prozac for 3 months now and, personally I've found it has worked really well. I haven't started counselling yet, but I have been referred for it.

The biggest step I found was in coming to terms with the fact that it was actually depression, and not just 'a bad day'. My doctor was an absolute star and helped me realise that depression is more a brain chemistry imbalance than anything else - and that you've go to get the balance right before things start to work on their own again.

I've been totally amazed by how much life has to offer now that I'm able to hold my head up and look around rather than just curl up in a ball on the floor and cry.

I told my Mum about my depression, and how I'd been trying to deal with it on my own since I was about 16 (I'm now 26) - and she had no idea! I suppose it's true that it's often the people who are considered strong that have the problems. She now seems to be trying to find out whether I've got other hidden problems - she seems to think that I exersize to lose weight (if I lost any weight I'd disappear) When all I really want is to be able to stay fit and healthy to avoid a number of hereditory complaints that associated with weight in my famiy - like type II diabetes.

One of the reasons why I decided to go and see the doctor to get help was because I saw what damage my depression was doing to the relationship with my husband. He didn't understand what I was going through and I couldn't explain it. Luckily he's still supported me, and now I'm improving he's happier than ever (me too, I have to say)

The final factor that made me realise that I had a REAL problem was when I read a post on this forum that BB had written and I replied outlining some of my own problems. THe support and strength I got from that, especially knowing that some of those people are doctors, was very important to me.

I very rarely showed any problems at work - mostly because my job is very logical and I don't have to DEAL with stuff emotionally at work very often. I found that my problems would manifest themselves at home more often, when I let my guard down, and I had to start doing things emotionally - like deciding what I wanted for tea!

I was amazed when I 'came out' as depressed at how many other people have suffered, or still suffer, with the same problem. I felt so alone when I was down.

Staggers, I hope you are able to find what works for you. I think I've been pretty lucky so far - hopefully I won't have too much trouble getting off the pills, we'll just have to wait and see.

Good luck. Know how you feel, you are not alone.

01/10/2003 at 23:55
i think this thread may help a lot of people
02/10/2003 at 08:26

I think you're right Hipps.
02/10/2003 at 08:44
Hope everyone else is okay, cos I'm not today and I'm going to be very self indulgent!

Well this could be an interestng day. I went running this morning after a poor night (awake at 3:00), and by the time I got back I can say in all honesty I was hating it and myself for putting me through it.

In the shower, the only thoguth was warm water, painkillers, razor, it could work - but it would probably hurt and I don "do" pain. A poor moment, not easily passed but quickly gone.

Getting in to work, I forced myslef to walk quickly so I wouldn't have time to think. But is that the right thing to do? At the moment I feel like I might get some work done because, whilst I feel very down my mind isn't wandering around too much.

My wife sort of understands, she's seen it before and had problems herself. But she's at a bit of a loss as to how to help - well if I don't know, how can I tell her what will help. We're trying to plan a long weekend at half term without the kids (they'll go to grandparnets and be spoilt rotten), but she's reluctant to book anything as she doesn't know how I'll be. Will I sleep while we're there, or even in the couple of days before, what happens if I'm really down while we're away because its not what I've built it up to.... Part of me says she's right, lets wait and see, but another part says do it, make the booking then its something to look forward to and a decision made.

But what if...

Writing this now, I'm still very confused feeling, but down is the main emotion. Tired doesn't help. I need something to go right or complete to feel a little sucess - that must sound terribly goal driven, but I think its the insecurity in myself needing others to see me being sucessful.
02/10/2003 at 08:46
i think you shouild go back to your GP Tonight
and say what you just said
02/10/2003 at 09:01
any particular bit Hipps?
02/10/2003 at 10:06
I agree; all of it.
02/10/2003 at 10:26
Book a double appointment, Staggers. Seriously. If you can, that is. You might have to say that it's for a coil fitting...
02/10/2003 at 10:29
02/10/2003 at 10:37
02/10/2003 at 10:47

If I were you, I would do as hipps and vrap have suggested. Go back to your GP. How long have you been on your medication? Maybe the GP needs to refer you on to someone more specialist... not that I'm an expert...

Sorry you are feeling so down today and the run was like torture for you.

Not sure what else to say except we are here for you and sending you a big hug a la teletubbies (which must mean I'm Po as I'm not very tall!)

Oh dear, references to childrens' TV - might be a good job I am seeing the psychiatrist again tomorrow!!!


02/10/2003 at 11:07
could the fact I've only been on Prozac of 10 days be part of the problem as it hasn't achieved the working level yet? My GP said I shouldn't have any problems stopping the Escitalopram and starting the porzac, but I'm wondering if that's why the last week has been so lousy feeling.
02/10/2003 at 11:08
just an idle ponder...

do antidepressants have the same effect on one's typing ability as do tranquillisers?

I'm thinking of doing a study.
02/10/2003 at 11:11
Possibly, Staggers. Prozac takes a good 2 weeks to start to show any benefit (except in one situation which is not likely to apply in your case) and 4-6 weeks to take maximal effect. Or it may be as Creamcake says - it's not just pills you need.
02/10/2003 at 11:12
don't know, typing fnigers is hard enough when sober
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