measuring your antioxidant levels
Hi I am interested in this, I agree it's not great having a random person carrying out the test, and then not be able to use evidence to back up the mechanisms. And if they are selling products too that doesn't sound convincing, did you have to pay for the test? was it expensive?
Oops just realised it's a really old thread....any comments welcome though as I am looking to get mine checked and want to know how much it costs.
do people really fall for this nonsene???
if you look at the science behind this then it's flawed - big time.
the scanner works - no doubt about that - but all it does is tell you what the concentration of your skin carotenoids are. carotenoids (beta-carotene and lycopene mainly) are only part of the antioxidant equation and to do any good - IF they do any good and the jury is very much out on that - they need to be intracellular or in the bloodstream, not the skin. they may help prevent some skin damage in the skin but they are not going to help elsewhere.
and at the end of the day, the company promoting this scanner only wants to sell you supplements so that your skin levels are fine. and in 1997 the parent company, Nu-skin, were fined by the FTC in the US for misleading claims on supplements they sold.
it's complete and utter pseudo-scientific bollocks - don't waste your money
am I to assume that fat buddha has a scientific background? the company is a $3.4billion leader in anti-aging and nutrition. Fact. They only ever claim that their scanner measures skin carotenoid levels but perhaps you missed this report by Reuters. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/08/05/idUS120850+05-Aug-2008+PRN20080805
blogvoice - as it happens, yes I am a scientist - biochemist in fact and my degree research thesis was on carotenoids, so I think I can speak with some authority on the subject
and that "report" by Reuters - it's a press release from 2008. a Press Release carries no scientific authority. and where's the links to the peer reviewed data??? oh - there isn't any?? quelle surprise....
frankly I couldn't give a flying fuck if NuSkin is a $3.4billion company - or that you have an association with them "About me: Extensive background in marketing (health, beauty, nutrition) working independently with Pharmanex - Nu Skin." (from your RW profile). as I said before, Nu-skin are using classic tactics (pseudo-science) to promote their nutrition products - that's all it comes down to.
the simple fact is that the health, beauty and nutrition industry is not exactly renowned for it's scientific rigour and sadly is poorly controlled - think of all the guff that cosmetic companies spout about serums, anti-aging compounds etc - it's complete and utter rubbish with no scientific baseline
I guess you could say, you won't be getting any money from me for a scan....
You have a lovely turn of phrase and why you have to respond with profanity is beyond me. I am simply pointing out facts. I agree with you about the difference between marketing hype and scientific fact and I agree that the industry on the whole is not controlled. So I am not sure what you actually know about the scientific credentials of this company or their research. If you had done you would have seen that product is manufactured to much higher standards.
As I scientist you will (should question your peer's papers or research methods but to say they have no scientific baseline, makes you look like a bit of an idiot - if you don't mind me saying. You come across as being very bombastic and cynical.
Experience has taught me that people will believe what they want to believe and yet you are saying you know more than these guys and that their reputation counts for nothing. Fellow scientists. You do surprise me.
As I say you believe what you want to believe and maybe I know more about the science behind this company than you do. And, no I don't care if you call yourself a scientist. And a rude one at that.
Is this the same Nuskin currently being investigated by various regulators?
Millsy- taken from Mr Blogvoice's profile:
Man U fan......nuff said.
I really have no time to keep responding to this thread. I thought this forum was for rational thinkers. I have merely pointed out to fat buddha that he is both rude and doesn't have his facts. I don't need to Google my products I know them well enough. It is far easier for me to find the relevant links to where people can find factual information about the scientific research behind this company. Something that fat buddha had tried to discredit.
Clearly I know more about this company and what is happening around the world than anyone on this thread.
Incidentally, I don't work for Nu Skin - I choose to work with them - for good reason. And I have not tried to hide the fact.
However, I do ike the remark from Pudge though. Perhaps a Liverpool fan
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