Im ALMOST over-weight

...According to BMI - new home page stuff

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08/11/2007 at 14:55

THe new home-page thingy all about weight loss and what not....

Well ive never actually calculated my BMI...but at present, I am RIGHT at the upper-limit of the 'normal' category (77kg & 179cm). Even when I put in 75kg...whcih I am some days, im still at the upper end of the scale.

Now I dont think I am overly porky, but I do like my cake. Im also not ridiculously heavily built, most people say I am fairly skinny (but are they just being polite?)

I know body fat % is probably a better indication, but I dont have a huge amount of that either I dont think....im sure I had it measured once and it was 12%...I think.

Am I just made up of particularly dense matter? (I know that statement is leaving em wide open to certain comments!)

.......Or am I simply a fat bloater in denial?!

Stump    pirate
08/11/2007 at 14:57

I'm fat

and

I'm proud!

Nick - you're skinny

08/11/2007 at 15:03
The one that i sawe dind't include the body type either - so doesn't take into account the body frame
08/11/2007 at 15:21

...oh stump you're just SAYING that..... *blushes coyly*

Seriously though...I dont have a massive frame, I not carrying excessive blubber (i dont think)....yet I am within a fairy cake of being 'fat' - 24.3

How does that work...or how is that justified?

WildWill    pirate
08/11/2007 at 15:22

acording to BMI (whichisa pile of rosh) i was over weight when i did IMDE ...and i was in singl figure body fat then

08/11/2007 at 15:24

21.8 normal, but Mrs NGL says I am too skinny.  I am.

I don't know the answer Nick, but if thats a recent picture, then the BMI stuff is just wrong, unless you are a very strange shape?

Do2    pirate
08/11/2007 at 15:27

Nick

Think about what its asking you for:

Height and weight.

Then think about how that weight can be made up... you could be all fat or all muscle, or somewhere in between. Clearly tendancy toward muscle is healthier than tendacny towrds fat, yet the BMI calculator doesn't make any allowances for this, so a 12st fat monster will have the same bmi as a 12st toned afleet of the same height.

08/11/2007 at 15:33

.....yeah my arse is HUGE!

http://www.untitledlife.com/wp-content/images/2007/01/070105_butt.jpg

08/11/2007 at 15:34
You barsteward I thought you havd burned that one
08/11/2007 at 15:36

Then I would respectfully suggest you entered incorrect details when you said this:

Well ive never actually calculated my BMI...but at present, I am RIGHT at the upper-limit of the 'normal' category (77kg & 179cm). Even when I put in 75kg...whcih I am some days, im still at the upper end of the scale.

Unless you were talking about yo ass. Or talking out of it.

08/11/2007 at 15:43
ha ha ha ha ha!
Do2    pirate
08/11/2007 at 15:52

Quote from the BMI site linked to from the home page...

  • It may overestimate body fat in athletes and others who have a muscular build.
  • It may underestimate body fat in older persons and others who have lost muscle mass.
  • So, as chocolate teapots go...

    08/11/2007 at 16:03

    DoT....i see your point....and it makes sense. THing is I dont think I am either of those.

    ANyhoo...I dont think the RW article stressed enough of the limitations of the measure of BMI, which could lead some people to worry overly. I know the context of the BMI....but it shouldnt be a universally accepted measure, which it generally is IMO.

    Im not bothered with my weight...id like to lose about 1/2 stone, (so I could hopefulyl be faster!) but I cant see it happening (cos I cant be arsed). I was however a little surprised just how close to being considered 'overwieght' I am based on this measurement.

    08/11/2007 at 16:11

    ...posted previous comment before reading the one above it by DoT!

    'nuff said

    Do2    pirate
    08/11/2007 at 16:15

    Nick,

    the other thing to consider is that if you run (which you do) and you consider yourself to be carrying too much excess fat (which apparently you do - I can't comment), then you will have the double wammy (weight wise) of muscle plus fat combining to give you a higher BMI.

    If you continue to train for endurance events then your body fat percentage will probably come down (calories in permitting), eyt your muscle mass will probably also continue to grow slightly, so the reductiion in your bmi may not be proportional to the amount of body fat you lose.

    As a tool for the sedate masses bmi is a useful indicator and no more, as an indicator of fitness for purpose in anybody who does regular exercise and wishes to improve competietively its about as useful mas the aforementioned chocolate teapot. IMO

    At the rsik of starting a heated debate, I regularly use a set of Tanita scales to monitor bmy body fat and water content. These also make assumptions about body make up, but are more sophisticated than the bmi tables and allow you to define by sex and exercise habits. Since I train 10hrs a week or more in one way or another I qualify for the "athlete" setting - which gives me a good feeling in itself!!

    08/11/2007 at 16:20
    I am almost obese - I am very overweight but according to BMI will still be slightly overweight at MY ideal which is where I look and feel my best - so I ignore BMI - load of carp designed to panic people
    08/11/2007 at 16:32

    I is an aferleet too DoT! I got a card in the post which says so from UK Athletics or something like that!

    We can compare how lardy we are DoT at La Rochelle over a nice cake and coffee in a Patiserie! (well I can whinge and whine!) while you gloat over your new PB!

    Maddy...I agree...load of carp!

    08/11/2007 at 16:56
    BMI is a load of poop.   A lot of muscle hides the lack of fat. Making you appear more 'normal' than you are!
    08/11/2007 at 17:55

    My experience of BMI is that it is generally a better indicator with ladies than with men, but can be questionable for either. Nick - if your body fat is 12% then if anything it's on the low side. This suggests that a lot of what you think is excess weight is actually muscle, which weighs more than the same volume of fat. You also have to take into account body types - ectomorph is the lanky one, endomorph is the curvy one and mesomorph is the muscley one. Ectomorphs tend to look OK (i.e. not gaunt or ill) at the lower end of the 'healthy' BMI range. Endomorphs and mesomorphs tend to look better a little heavier. You are stuck with your basic type whatever you do diet and exercise wise. 

    There's something in the Competitive Runner's Handbook about weight and it reckons I should aim for something which I'm sure I'd feel and look pretty rough at to get my optimum time (I did weigh that much briefly once after a rather nasty tummy bug), and that's as someone who tends to stabilise at the lower end of the 'healthy' BMI range. And then we wonder why eating disorders are so prevalent among athletes...

    I think looking in the mirror and how you feel more generally healthwise are much better indicators than scales.

    08/11/2007 at 18:37

    I like the bit about 'stop the press taking minutes off your time could be as simple as losing a few pounds'

    That's hilarious - Personally losing a few pounds is a lot HARDER than putting in 10 hours of training every week.  The training I do already - the losing the few pounds I have struggled with for years to no avail. 

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