Mental illness and running

I wanted a place where we could get advice and support.

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07/10/2012 at 16:45

Hi sinbad, not at all out of line it's nice to hear from you. It's always lovely to hear from someone new, we are a pretty welcoming group, it's just difficult to get that across sometimes. All welcome, honestly.You might as well jump in, no one will mind at all.

I think they are Ben-o, I know that there are a number of untrustworthy people out there but I think the majority are normal people just trying not to hurt or be hurt by everyone else. Hope I'm not proved wrong. (I don't mean all people are intrinsically good or that you should completely trust everyone but I think most people will do something like this if they say they will.)

I tried to get the guy who owned the car I scuffed to go private and he wouldn't, which I thought was a little mean but ultimately I'm the one that made the mistake.

07/10/2012 at 16:53

Thanks SCaz, I guess you're right. I think I was just frustrated and disappointed. I'm taking today as a rest day and trying again tomorrow. I think it freaked me out a bit cos it wouldn't calm but l feel fine now so it's all good. 

Silly question ... anyone else struggle with bugs in their face cycling? I hate it, I keep getting them in my eyes too I wondered whether a Buff over my mouth would help with the cold air and the flies - cos the asthma eventually calmed once I was out of the cold air.

To be honest, I'm a bit over-anxious about everything today so might be better to not think about anything and just let today do it's thing.

07/10/2012 at 17:04

Hi SOLB,

Nothing wrong with being anxious about anything sometimes.

I get anxious as I live alone, and I don't have any friendships where I live, and I'm trying to quit the beer (i do go in the forum can I give up booze).

Thats why I have turned back to running and luckily found this web site. I go in two or  three at least once a day now, and it helps a great deal.

And yes its ok to let things go by, wish I had your ability to do that. This web site has become my social life. So if I post too much please tell me. It's just nice to know I have at least somewhere to go.

07/10/2012 at 17:16

I think you're right, sometimes it's easy to think that all emotions are bad when really it is just a feeling and if I don't do anything about it then it doesn't matter at all.

I live alone too, though I like it and don't often get lonely (I'm always being told off for spending so much time alone by the docs and stuff though)

Well done for trying to quit the beer, I can't imagine how hard that is.

I don't think you can post too much honey, what I would say though is that we quite often have gaps of a few hours or even a day or two when no one posts. If you've written last and no one answers for a while it won't be because you've done or said anything wrong. We just have relatively few regular posters, there are quite a lot of lurkers too so it's possible that someone will have read it and cared but won't feel able to post a response *SOLB waves to the lurkers*

I'm feeling a bit rubbish so I'm going for a walk to visit Chicken (I have no idea who owns Chicken, she lives in a field near my house, we met when she escaped and I twisted my knee trying not to run into her as she waddled in the middle of the path - after our near death experience we became friends and I go and feed her when I want to get out for a bit)

07/10/2012 at 17:48

Blimey Ben O rotten luck

 

Welcome Sinbad

 

SOLB I usually wear glasses (no lens but neutral glass) when I cycle if I remember for that very reason.  The buff over the mouth sounds good to shut you up erm...I mean to keep the flies out.  Just kidding you know I love what you say

2.5 mile walk done combining it with shopping - not the run I had planned but my left knee is a bit twangy. Popped in to see my mum on the way home too which was nice - I get told off for not socialising enough too

07/10/2012 at 17:54

Hi SOLB,

Thanks for that I worry on otherr foruns over the past few weeks to replying to all posts. I never quite learnt how to let two people have a chat in forums or, actual chat rooms. I just hope that happens here as I really  at home here, and am enjoying the company.

Sometimes I like living alone, yet there again, I like the peace and quiet. It's strange that one.

I hope your okay.

Thats a really nice thing to do for the chicken, I had to read your post a couple of times before I got it though .

Well I would like to think that over time that I could become a regular in this thread.

07/10/2012 at 18:00

Yeah, it could have a lot worse Bear! I've been driving a fair few years now and you've got to expect some accidents. The guy is happy to pay so you were right you "people can be trusted" groupies...

I found that having no friends and drinking alone while watching tv went together very well Sinbad and I get how hard it is to make friends. The only thing I can suggest is a running club or something like that. I started helping out at scouts as well, though children can be pretty intimidating at first. In other ways they're very accepting (and a bit selfish because they're kids).

Hah! Yeah Sinbad, I didn't understand SOLB's Chicken comment either! I assumed she was talking about a takeaway not a live chicken.

Edited: 07/10/2012 at 18:03
07/10/2012 at 19:34
Hi Sinbad. I sometimes post regularly and other times struggle to write stuff. I haven't ever really lived on my own and sometimes wish I did! I think it is good to have a balance between quiet time to be ourselves and time with other people. I try to take my little boy for a toddle round the street at least once a day as it stops me just sitting at home ruminating. Our street often has people popping in and out so there is usually someone or a cat to shake me out of my gloom.
Solb, how was the chicken? My cats were very quiet today. Tibbles did give poorly moo some cuddles hut Timmy was too busy sniffing tom kitten.
07/10/2012 at 20:40

Bear that made me laugh lots I might get a buff to go over my mouth then ... good idea re glasses. I'll keep an eye out for some cheap ones

Aww to popping in to see Mummy Bear, that's really nice.

Sinbad, we're all pretty easy going here. There aren't really any unwritten rules, other than generally playing nicely with each other. So lovely that you feel at home here, I do too. I miss everyone when we go quiet.

Oh dear, I'll explain Chicken better next time. I forget that it's a bit of a weird thing to do. TAKEAWAY Ben-o?! I'm shocked. Poor Chicken had to have extra apple cos I felt so sorry for her takenaway chums!!

I didn't know you did scouts Ben-o, that's really cool. I was a scout (I know I'm a girl but the scouts were more fun) I think that's brilliant, especially as you said it must have been intimidating at first.

Once I'm running well enough I am going to join a running club. I always say it and never do it but this time I have to. I don't have any friends where I live either Sinbad. Does anyone else run with a club?

Hey By Eck, Awww poor poorly Moo (((Moo)))

07/10/2012 at 21:16

I have had takeaway chicken tonight, sorry SOLB.

I ran with a club a little bit a few years ago but then got injured and had to take loads of time out. It's good for making you go once you know people, as with all things it's hard at the beginning.

Yeah, I've been doing scouts about two and a half years. I really enjoy it even though kids can be right little sh*ts! It gets me out and I get to play with fire which is always a good thing. At the start it was hard because they're a group of shouting kids who don't really want to listen. And they're still exactly the same, it's just that I've earnt their respect so they don't like to disppoint me too much.

07/10/2012 at 21:44

It's not me you have to apologise too Ben-o ... it's Chicken

http://s3.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/614453/gallery/chicken_0.jpg?width=350

 (actually this isn't Chicken, this is a different Houdini Hen ... Chicken is much chubbier than this slip of a thing who happened to be outside the gate tonight)

to the soot covered Ben-o playing with fire. I'm really impressed. I always want to be altruistic enough to do stuff like that but I'm just not. I'm still really unreliable too. My doctor recommended these people Richmond Fellowship

It doesn't look likely that they'll accept my application because their nearest centre is quite a way away but I'm going to try anyway

07/10/2012 at 22:08

SOLB believe me when I say you are a very giving person already - your words have been invaluable to me and I'm hugely grateful to have you as a friend

07/10/2012 at 22:10

Awww Bear, you'll make me cry you soppy thing! I'm glad we're friends too

07/10/2012 at 22:28

Bear's right SOLB, you give a lot, more than most people who don't struggle with their own demons.

And don't think that the people who get into scouts or whatever are doing it because they're saints, they're not. Some do it because they love being in charge, some because they enjoy having power and control over others, some because their group was desperate and needed a leader. You get your own rewards.

07/10/2012 at 22:34

I guess you're right about people having their own reasons, I still think it's impressive that you do it when you could stay on the sofa instead.

I was feeling really miserable but I feel much better now.

Am going to ignore OCD's mandate and go to bed before midnight, I think I largely have that cracked now. I can go to bed when I want to more often than having to stay up for 0;00

Edited: 07/10/2012 at 22:34
08/10/2012 at 06:10
Arghh couldn't sleep for thinking inane little thoughts. Not even anxiety just pointless little conumdrums. I am cross with myself now. Pretty much a textbook case of how not to handle it!

Why is there such a link between sleep and poor mental health? You'd have thought sleep was a predominantly physical process, wouldn't you? Doing it again, it doesn't matter - shut up solb and go to sleep.
08/10/2012 at 09:18

That's ok SOLB, the other night I couldn't sleep til about 4. I just couldn't switch off. I'd even gone for a run that day and I tried reading but it just didn't make me tired.

A lot of the evidence now suggests that sleep's about not only physically re-charging and repairing, but almost mentally. The idea is that when you enter deep REM sleep your brain is sorting out all the information from that day. So when you don't get enough, your processes are slowed a bit because your brain has a hangover from yesterday. Also, when you physically tired and lethargic, it's very easy for that to affect your mood. I think for many years I took feeling tired as feeling sad.

08/10/2012 at 10:52
That makes a lot of sense Ben-o, thank you.

I can sort of see how you could mistake tired and sad. They feel similar, same symptoms and being tired makes you more sensitive and less able to cope.

I think I'm getting my tired signals wrong at the moment. I'm going to try imposing a morning alarm, I need some structure cos I always feel tired and its hard to establish a routine if you aren't consistent about what time you get up. I feel boring for going on about it but I need structure and routine, without it I feel aimless and despondent.
08/10/2012 at 11:27

Yeah, structure and routine are really important. And it's exactly that aimless and despondent bit. I need a goal, a plan, something to activate me. And this is true of a lot of people, particularly regarding work. Look at the number of people who choose to work for institutions (Universities, schools, prisons, NHS) because of the structure and routine that they often impose.

It's hardly surprising that the key component for helping people improve their mood is doing stuff. People who are bored and often depressed. There's also evidence that says that boredom is the biggest changeable risk factor for inpatient aggression.

Sorry for that, it's because you give me a bit of praise SOLB and what I'm working on at the moment is making me feel stupid. Oh well, what are your plans for the day?

08/10/2012 at 12:08

What are you sorry for Ben-o, it's genuinely interesting (and even if it wasnt you'd be allowed to say it here!)

I was talking about the need to be busy and not bored with someone else the other day .. though less eloquently. I honestly think the point that you start fighting the rut and start forcing yourself to do 'stuff' regularly is a real turning point to getting better - though I'm not sure if you can force that point along, it seems everyone has to reach it for themselves.

Oh Ben-o, sorry the stuff you're doing is making you feel stupid - you come across as pretty astute and intelligent for what it's worth ... maybe it's a case of the more you understand the more you realise you don't understand.

I want to cycle to the gym but I'm afraid of the asthma kicking off. I've also promised to call in and see my Dad and spotty cos Dad is feeling lonely (and I have a present for the spotty one) I may go see Dad then just drive to the gym. It's a bit of a cop out but I'm tempted anyway.

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