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Hi all, I'm whacked!!!  Ted has had one sleep at lunchtime today and just kept going and going!!!  He seems to have permanently dropped his second night time feed though which is brill so it means that I only have to get up at around 3.30, that said I feel more tired that before - how does that work out?!

EF - glad someone else has found they're putting weight on (well not glad, but feel better if that makes sense!) I realised last week that my weight loss had definitely stopped, think that's why I felt the need to seriously do some running.  And I have to say that's a impressive amount of shoes!!! 

Got to admit that I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a ballot place rather than relying on a BLISS charity place for FLM, I know it's unlikely but £2500 is a mammoth target, especially with not being in work at the mo.  I work in a school of obly 20 staff, hubby works for a small division of Barratt housebuilders and Mum and Dad don't work for corporate companies either.  Could be difficult to get the cash raised.  Does anyone know what happens if you don't hit the target?  Not that I'd be aiming not too!!!

MM - sounds like you're doing really well with your running.  I'm very impressed at your time!  Problem is my runs come at the end of a good hour to hour and a quarter previous competing so it's difficult to judge what my times actually are!

Minks you are so good avoiding the cake.  I know that's most of my problem, I just have to stop making the stuff!!!

Went to see the doctor today about being immunised for Chicken Pox apparently it's never actually been done in our surgery before so they're having to research into it at the mo.  Doesn't sound terribly pleasant (but then again when do jabs?) she did smile and ask if there was any possibility of me wanting to get pregnant within the next three months as apparently that's a no-no.  She was great on the running front though.  I asked her when it was ok to start running again properly and she advised another month to allow the core-stability muscles to regain their strength.  She said it was ok to do run/walk combos but to take it easy if there was any tenderness (she stressed tenderness not pain) in my abdomen.  Felt I really was talking to someone who knew what they were talking and about, she also asked me if I did personal training!!!!

Well there we go, a benefit of being sick throughout pregnancy (and beyond!) - by the time I got out of hospital I weighed less than I had pre-pregnancy.  This was great but I think now I am starting to put it on again (already had 2 bags of crisps this morning and it has only just gone 9am). Our scales are broken so I will never know.

 Mrs O good to have you back with us and I am sure Isla will be fine at the nursery today.

 James went to a childminder for the first day on Monday (I had a non-pupil day) and then on Tues morning when we arrived he gave her a huge smile.  That made it so much easier for me.  Unfortunately he had to put up with me again yesterday.

 Anyway, got to write targets for the kids whilst he is sleeping.

Something else I just remembered James and several babies from our ante-natal group all went through a phase where they seemed tothink they were too big for a daytime sleep.  However, they all grew out of it soon enough.  I used to go for a walk with James and then leave him in the back garden sleeping.  If I brought him in immediately he would wake

Good luck 

Yes mrs o. My two were born on 21st oct, they were small though 4.5lb each. I breast fed them soley until 8 weeks, then gave in and they had a bottle of formula before bedtime as my milk seemed to take a nose dive that time of day, especially producing for two, so they have had a bottle all along. I also expressed before bed and hubbie gave them that feed from a bottle from about 2 weeks!

They do eat their solids pretty well. They have small pasta shapes in sauce, spag bol etc. mashed potato with tinned sardines all mashed is a fav, and a very easy cupboard standby. And I make mini pizzas for them from muffins, which I cut into bits and they love it, very messy though. They eat chunks of veg, carrots, brocoli etc. I buy a bag of frozen mixed veg and cook in the microwave and just put a handful on their trays. They love the bright colours. They eat mini sandwiches as well, and chunks of cheese and yes they love fruit chunks. Only thing we have a problem with is scrambled egg.

Janie, I remember when my two started sleeping through I felt so much more tired than when I had to get up. I think the adrenalin keeps you going and then suddenly your body realises you have to catch up. I am exhausted now as trying to run and rush around after two rapid babes. Twisted my ankle on run last night, really cross, but seems to be OK. Fingers crossed.

Minks I need your mindset just for a week!  I am one of these people who doesn't usually buy junk because if it's there I have to eat it.  But have been buying stuff for visitors so it's around me and basically I have got into the habit of eating rubbish.  Need to get my head in gear and break habit.  Thought I'd do better today with trainer coming round but we all sat and steadfastly stared at the unopened packet of biscuits and we all said no we didn't want any.  They left and I tore open the pack and ate 4.  They barely got chewed.  Understandable if I hadn't eaten all day but I'd eaten a Thorntons bag of chocolate covered turkish delight just before they arrived!  Got loads of choccy for my birthday so am going to have to hoover it down over the next 3 days and start afresh on monday.  Am going to write out a plan like I used to when I went to weightwatchers but allow myself some extra points to deal with breastfeeding.  I find it easier somehow to control my eating when I have to see what I can have and tick it off as I eat it.  I definitely have some food issues!  Am just about the same weight as when I first went to WW - 10st 6 on the scales yesterday - but I don't want to lose as much as I did last time back in 2001.  Went down to 8st 12 which on me was a bit skeletal.  Though if I can get down to 9st 7 I'll be well chuffed.  I was 9st 12 pre preg. 

Louise slept til 6 again last night although as expected she played up like mad all last night.  Screamed from 5 til 9pm even though she had two feeds in that time.  Finally got my birthday presents from Andy at 10.45pm!  It's great when she sleeps til 6 but the problem is that I woke at 5 cos she was making such a blooming racket with arms flailing all over the shop but her eyes were firmly shut.  she did that for an hour before she propped one eyelid open.  I spent the whole hour jumping up to check if she was awake or not - hardly restful! 

janie the deal when i did the charity place was that they made you sign a form saying that if you couldn't get the money raised you had to let them know in advance.  If you stood on start line and raced then you were basically contracted to hand over £1000 regardless of where it came from.  My understanding though was that if you said even the day before that you couldn't do it then you could back out and not have to pay - it's to do with them losing golden bond places.  However it was 2002 when I did it so rules may well have changed. 

3.23 marathon- I dream of that.  If I can get 3.44.59 I will be ecstatic.  Wish I didn't have to train through winter though.  yeah yeah I know the solution - run an autumn marathon but grumpy here doesn't actually like running in the heat either!

EF - Happy Birthday forgot to say yesterday!  I get the feeling birthdays will never be the same again!  Thanks for the info re charity places, that's worth knowing about.  I wonder if I had £2000 guaranteed sponsorship if they would turn it down...

MM - Glad to hear I;m not going mad with the tiredness thing.  you're probably right with the adrenaline thing.  I was glad to hear other NCT friends say the same thing.v

Plod - glad to hear you're surviving, did you go part-time in the end?  Interesting what you say about the day time sleep, that could be the problem!

Another sleepless day.  Not too bad but this evening was hard going.  Going for medical tomorrow so hopefully we'll be ok!

Hello all

re daytime sleeps.... mine will only sleep in the day in thier bouncy chairs, will never go off in thier pram or cot but the combo of chair and dummy has them off in minutes!  Neither sleep for that long at a stretch though, 30 mins if I am lucky (unless out in car or pram).  i am a mean mum though and leave the girls in thier cot to shower etc as i cant bare to get up early - I have perfected a 3 min shower though!

Did a solo trip to london to see family for a few days and all was good.  Both slept there and back despite a nearly 4 hour journey this morning and slept well in the travel cot, off to france next weekend so glad about that!

ef you sound like me with food!  I dont keep stuff in the house usually but have taken to buying biscuits cos I need to eat something in the night when i feed the girls or I feel awful when i get up - problem is I know they are there and keep sneaking one when I fancy something sweet.  I presumed feeding 2 would help the weight loss but it doesnt seem to be going anywhere.

Had 8 week check and jabs this afternoon, both are thriving and thier weight gain over the past fortnight was above average and they have moved up the chart.  They are very long - above the 50th centile despite weight being on 2nd for Milla and 25th for Ella.  they seem ok after the jabs thank god.... it was horrid as I took them alone so could not comfort either of them properly as I had to sort the other one out - will take someone with me next time if I can.

Hetty - feel for you jabs for two of them - not nice.

Funnily I was at GP yesterday having finally come off BP tablets (only to be told it is going up again...) and there was a wee boy in front of me asking 'Mummy can I go and get my injections now?'.

Bless him, we heard his cry and knew the deed had been done.  Then as he was going out the door he sais 'Mummy, I don't want to have my injections again.'  Quick learner!!

JT - I've gone 2 days a week.  It was fantastic on Tues wishing everyone a good weekend - I think I might end up friendless very soon! 

Goodness hetty can imagine. I had hubbie with me for each set of jabs otherwise it would have been awful. Funnily though can get double buggy through door of surgery but not through the doctors or nurses doors! We have the one year jabs fast approaching!

Tried to park in multistorey on sat in cambridge, the lift would not fit a wheelchair let alone a double buggy. Note to self not to go there on my own as would not get down. We had to carry the babes and buggy down the stairs!! Hubbie picked me up on the lower ground floor on the way back.

My two are pretty tall as well, but Harry still only on 2nd for weight as well, I think he is on 25th for height.

MM, I'm green with envy at your 10M time.  I will NEVER be that fast!  Am only up to 7 miles at the moment but will be hitting a 10-mile Sunday run in a couple of weeks - I think then I'll feel like a 'proper' runner again.  My pace is pretty good even compared with pre-pregnancy but stamina and strength take months to build and only weeks to lose, so I'm not sure a PB marathon time is possible for next year, especially given that I now have less time to train.  I can't get out until after Kit's been bathed and is in bed, usually around 7pm, so not sure how I'm going to be able to run 8+ miles during the week as I did when marathon training last time.  It would mean getting back around 8:15 then I'd have to shower and have dinner which would make it quite late - not sure hubby would be up for waiting until 9pm for his dinner!  Will have to think about how I could work it.  I could run at lunchtime once I'm back at work, but again it's difficult because I've been moved into a shared office so if I'm longer than an hour it might be more obvious - when I had my own office I got away with it!  Also as I'm only going to be working 3 days a week I feel I can't take liberties as much as I used to.  Might have to settle for racing shorter distances for the time being, but really don't want to waste my GFA place ...

Have just sent two emails of complaint.  One is to my local Sainsbury's.  They've just got brand new trolleys with really nice baby seats - but Kit chews the straps as I'm pushing him around the store (as I'm sure a lot of babies do) and I found red dye all over his T-shirt on Monday after we'd done the shopping.   Even if it isn't toxic (!) I'm not impressed at it coming off all over his clothes.  Will see what they have to say.  Also emailed a company called Sassy who make baby toys.  My mum bought Kit a Sassy teether from John Lewis and yesterday I noticed bits of green round his mouth.  At first I thought it was courgette then realised he hadn't eaten any that day, and on closer inspection it turned out to be chips of green paint off his teether.  Not impressed.  The website states that their products are rigorously tested and are completely safe, but am not happy that this is the case.  Watch this space ...

Blimey Minks, thats shocking! Hope you get a good response.

Just found a bit of book in Joshies mouth when were in the library, but guess a bit of cardboard is probably OK!!!

Gave my two strawberries fresh from the garden for brekkie, big mistake, Joshie was sick afterwards. Had this problem before with strawberries so will lay off them till next summer now. Shame as they hadn't been sick for ages.

On my own all weekend, hubbie off on boys weekend. I hate it when the week is extended like this, its so much easier with two of us at the weekends, and I'll feel very lonely tonight. Bathing the two of them is a nightmare now. Joshie has discovered the toilet and is obsessed by standing up and looking into it. Trying to keep it really clean and saying 'No dirty' to him, its very hard though.

Did anyone watch supernanny on weds night? It was about a couple with two sets of twins. Blimey, definitely enough to put me off having anymore!!!

I watched with interest!! Apparently tou are much more likely to have twins when you already have a set already.... scary thought!  Met a woman with twins who got pregnant when they were 2 months old so had 3 kids under 1!! Was very impressed as they were all lovely and that she was even in aposition to get pregnant with baby twins

Hope your weekend is ok MM, I too now really look forward to weekends as its the only time I feel I can give the girls real quality time... and have a rest!

We are off to a wedding reception tomorrow night, our first proper night out.  Looking forward to it but a little aprehensive, hope granny can cope if they both wake up at the same time!!

Good for you complaINING MINKS... SOUNDS AWFUL! (OOPS sorry didnt mean for caps!)

No response to either of my emails of complaint so far - tsk!  Did get an automated response from Sainsbury's though, acknowledging receipt of my email and saying that it had been passed to the customer services team.  I will be very cross if I get no reply!

MM, completely understand how you feel being left alone.  I had Kit on my own for a whole weekend when hubby was away on my brother's stag weekend.  It did make it feel like a very long week, especially as it was the weekend of Kit's (one and only) sleeping 'blip' when he was waking every hour of the night.  When hubby got home on the Sunday night we were both zombies, for completely different reasons!  Hubby has had a few Saturday nights out which basically means I get Kit all Sunday too while hubby recovers!  Makes it sound as though hubby is out on the beers every weekend but that's far from being the case - he doesn't go out that often, but when he does it's quite often with my brother and all his mates and they all cane their beer.  Hubby tries to keep up and always ends up in a state!

Kit finally managed to roll from back to front today.  He's been rolling from tummy to back for ages but always gets stuck going the other way.  He did a big poo after his tea this evening and it wasn't worth putting a clean nappy on him before his bath, so I stripped him completely and let him roll around naked on a large towel in the lounge.  Unencumbered by his clothes he rolled right over on to his tummy, then rolled back and looked VERY pleased with himself!

Hubby came in this evening with baby toothpaste and a baby toothbrush, so we can start cleaning Kit's two tiny teeth - bless! 

Jinxing things as I type but tonight Louise and I came in from a walk at 5pm.  Fed her and then let her play on her gym whilst Andy and I ate our tea.  Then gave her a bath with Johnsons bedtime bath stuff and a wee massage with the lotion after.  20 mins on the right boob and then put her in bed at 8pm and so far so good.....Andy has gone out with the boys so I was really nervous as she often doesn't settle with me.  I'm not sure if him going out means I am doing both the 11pm feed at the 4am - we'll have to negotiate that at 4am!

Minks, that's terrible re sainsburys.  I have just done my shop online, could not be assed to get myself to the shops!  Impressed at Kit's mobility, cannot imagine Louise being able to roll over but then I look back at her 1 week pics are realise how big she is already!

hetty have fun tomorrow. 

If anyone has nothing better to do than nosey at pics (and sometimes you just don't!) there are loads more on my photobox album here http://www.photobox.co.uk/album/5899118  but be warned - it's over 100 now!

Had very rough night with Harry. Teething but making a meal of it bless him. He had a bad temperature so had to give him calpol at 2am, followed by ibuprofen at 4am, finally his temp came down.

Hubbie had nice meal at pub, several ales and a lie in. Tsshhh!

Off to take them to childminder for 2 hours so I can get a run in. Long run will have to wait till hubbie gets home at lunchtime. I hate waiting to do a run on a sunday, I like to get up and get it done as early as poss. Nevermind!

Enjoy your night out Hetty.

Minks I hope you fare better with your complaint.  I got a response from the airport, not dealing with what I raised and an 'attached sheet that should clarify about baby milk and food to make my next trip easier' - perhaps they should have given that to the workers who took the allowed food away from me.  Very cross, people can't even read letters of complaint.

MM Hope Harry has a better night tonight.

I was hoping to go for a run this morning whilst hubbie got James up and dressed - however, he briefly got up when James poured a tub of water over his cot (and I asked for help) and promptly went back to bed having stripped the cot - not remade it, or put the stuff in the washing machine, or got his don up which was the plan.   maybe next weekend... 

Minks that is terrible!  I'm not surprised you complained.  I'd be inclined to contact John Lewis too, their customer service is generally very good and I'm sure they'd want to know what they're selling.  We've just bought a cosy toes from Mothercare today, decided we'd buy it on the shop even though we'd found a fairly good deal online in case I wasn't in when the post arrived only to find that they've left the security tag on it and I'm going to have to go back - grrrr!  Ooh and Well Done Kit!

Hetty - hope you enjoy the wedding and that you found something to wear in the end.  It's a gorgeous day for it anyway.

MM- hope you have a better night tonight.  Make sure hubby does any night time shifts!!!!  It must be hard when you have two in those circumstances.  Hope it's just Harry that suffers if you get what I mean!!!

Plod - It's so annoying when people don't read letters properly.  I wrote to Asda when I was heavily pregnant as their checkouts are so narrow you can't get round the side of the trolley and they kept the wide aisle shut.  I was in agony by the time I'd finished unloading and loading the trolley and they never got back to me (had Ted in the meantime so never chase them) but it is SO annoying.  Your hubby sounds like mine...  And how many times do you have to point things out????

Ted's been a very sleepy boy today.  just realised that it's nearly five hours since he last ate so may need to think about waking him in order to make sure he's not up every hour in the night!  He usually feeds like frenzy at this time of the day, just wondering if it's because we've used the car seat sleeping bag (£6 TK Maxx - bargain!) that I got for him.  He's been waking in the night because he's cold and kicked the covers off him in the night - just wondering if it's time to start using the sleeping bags I bought...

Have to say my other half is brilliant. Hence why I must let him go away on his mens weekends. He tends to get the boys up every morning and give them their brekkie, and he does their bath most days too. Am very lucky I get to run most days morning or evening. He does no cooking for them though but thats fine probably easier if one of us is in charge of that. Bonus of him working from home I guess, and on the days he is here and not with clients he loves seeing them during his breaks, its great for the boys too.

Harry was much better last night, MediSed at 6pm and he slept till 6.30am thank goodness. I went to bed at 9.30pm, very sad on a sat night! He is still very wingey though, and the tooth hasn't even started cutting yet, a few more days of it yet I fear. Worse thing is it obviously hurts him to eat, and don't have pureed food, may have to whizz up his risotto for lunch, see how he goes.

Sleeping bags are great. My two move all over the cot now, so sheets really would not work now. I do worry when they bang their heads in the night though they seem to be insistent on sleeping near the edges or ends even though they have a huge cotbed.

MM, you're lucky that hubby works from home especially as you have two.  Have to say my hubby is fantastic too, even though he has to commute into central London every day.  He gets Kit up and changes his nappy in the morning while I shower and get myself sorted, then I do his feed while hubby gets ready for work.  There's usually a little time for hubby to spend with Kit before he leaves for work, and now that Kit's bedtime is a little bit later he's usually home before he goes down.  Hubby always cuts Kit's nails - a job a hate doing! - and at weekends we each have a day for a lie-in while the other gets Kit up and gives him his breakfast.

Kit is now getting hungry quite quickly after his morning milk feed - his next feed isn't supposed to be until around 11am but the past two days I've had to feed him at 10:40 and 10:30 respectively so think I'm going to buy some baby cereal this afternoon and start him on some morning solids tomorrow.  He LOVES his solids - seems to take everything we give him quite happily.  Had sweet potato and parsnip yesterday and butternut squash today: he eats better than we do!

Just planned my 7-mile route for this afternoon, now must get some water down my neck as have hardly drunk anything so far today!

Also recommend sleeping bags - Kit's been in his since about 8 weeks.  He always kicked off his covers when he slept in the carry cot and there's no way he'd keep covers on in his big cot.  He seems to like his sleeping bag and associates it with sleeping as he always smiles up at me as I zip him in.

Eddie has done his first race!  We all went to the Grunty Fen half marathon today as mrbob was running it, and my older 2 children wanted to do the fun run.  As J is 4 he needed to be accompanied by an adult, so I ended up going round with him with Eddie strapped on my front in his sling - he was a star and slept the whole way round, even when I was having to do a slow jog to keep up with J (I think it must have reminded him of when I ran when I was pregnant!). So I have unintentionally also done my first run (if you can call a c.15 minute mile that!) since birth - luckily it all felt OK despite being most unsuitably clad in jeans and sandals.  All the children got medals (including Eddie!), and mrbob came 2nd in the half and won £180 - so everbody was happy! 

I'm now inspired to try some gentle run-walking next week - Janie, are you following the RW pregnancy book routine exactly? Only I'm a bit worried that 5 sessions a week is a bit unmanageable, so I wondered if you were doing that many?

Also a big fan of sleeping bags - we have a very lightweight one that Eddie's been in a couple of times, although the last week or so it's been quite warm at night so he hasn't been in it.  They're great in winter though for keeping them toasty all night long.  And Mitchie - Medised is great stuff, isn't it? When J was teething and had some horrendous coughs and runny noses it really calmed him down at night - I must remember to buy some more in readiness for Eddie.

Better head off to bed now as no doubt I'll be up again in a few hours ...