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22/08/2013 at 22:25

oh no, marmalade vodka is lush! glad hubby is happier

fickle, contrary 2yr olds? well - I have a 4yr old that's like that. went school shoe shopping today. told the woman I was not buying the ones with the toys in the heel, and then before she had even seen any of them, E declared that she only wanted the one with the toy in the heel. fine, says I. we won't buy you any school shoes then. however, we will get some for J (he was chuffed to bits with his). as we went to pay, she pouted and looked sideways at me, so I asked if she would like to try some on now, but not the ones with the toy in the heel. lo and behold, she did, quite happily.

I think the moral of it all is - ignore what you can, and this too shall pass (eventually - someone please say it does pass eventually...)

22/08/2013 at 22:29

xpost EF. blimey - scary re your sis but how fab that Gregor and Fraser are so close in age

22/08/2013 at 22:45

Well I'm still waiting for it to pass CM!  6 yr old....


Gregor and Fraser are impossible names to get right.  I'm always calling them by the wrong one.  Even my sister's mother in law said Fraser when she turned up to visit Gregor!

22/08/2013 at 22:54

Arrgghh don't tell me this ladies!! My friends 4 year old went to stay with her grandparents and when she came home, my friend asked whether she had a nice time, she said "no, they locked me in a dark cupboard and went on a long holiday"!

I reckon she's going to have fun in a few years!! Especially as she said it was delivered with just a whiff of sarcasm!!

Very scary re. your SIL EF but great to hear that all ok now!

22/08/2013 at 22:59

Potty training #shudders.

My teeny tiny framed friend had a first baby of about 7lbs.  No 2 was 9lbs 6.  Eek. 

Gregor was 8lbs 8.  I think Fraser would have been about that had he made it to due date. 

22/08/2013 at 23:01

Hoggle, Lou went back to school and they had to do a postcard of what they did in the holidays.  She of course went to ballet summer school, became a big sister, went swimming about twice a week, went on a day trip to a farm and so I asked what she drew and wrote.  Apparently she couldn't think of anything so she made it up and drew a campervan.  However I couldn't get annoyed as she followed it up with "and Mrs Chan held it up for everyone to see as she said mine was really good with lots and lots of details"

22/08/2013 at 23:07

Ooh EF think your family must have had enough dramas to last them for a while, great that everyone is fine.

Martha and Aidan have been colluding in which can be more exasperating this week.  I am exhausted!   Benedict is getting into all sorts of trouble climbing on everything so I literally do not get a seconds peace!!  This too shall (hopefully) pass (soon please!)

23/08/2013 at 00:15

Haha EF that's hilarious, she obviously has a great imagination! And you are def a mean parent for giving her such a dull summer...


23/08/2013 at 09:18


Thanks for the input on hips. He seems much better this morning and has gone on his trip. I don't think it will be too much walking tbh so hopefully it will hold up.

'Frances' is measuring normal for dates ATM, thank goodness, but I seem to recall JP was too, until about 32 weeks when he was consistently 2 weeks ahead. Based on the  20 wk scan, she has a nice small head and tummy (just under 50th centile) but relatively long legs (75th). I like

EF, scary stuff about sis but so glad she is OK now. Love the name too! Had to laugh at Lou's perception of the summer hols. You cruel mother, you! When JP went to stay with my parents, he had them in fits of laughter when they took him on a picnic. Mum was making sandwiches and she asked him what Mummy would normally put on them. His reply was 'carrot scrapings'! 

Great running, CC! 

My iPad is being really silly. Some of the suggestions it comes up with are just plain weird. So I do apologise if I leave one in by accident! 

Kinsey, your three are so cute, it is hard to believe they could be naughty

yay to having the kids back, CM!

Off to buy school stationery today. I have been given instructions for a minion pencil case also have some gardening to finish off - a bit of weeding and clearing etc. did about two hours yesterday and my hammies are feeling it today! 

23/08/2013 at 22:16

Yum , yum to carrot scrapings!  My elder two are hilarious, if someone rings they generally get asked 'what did you do today?' and regardless of what we have been doing the answer is generally 'nothing'!

much better day today but tring to get them to tidy up after themselves is causing some fairly huge arguments!

Camlo    pirate
24/08/2013 at 10:32

oh my - its been quiet for ages and then loads!

 Yippee to planned sections (although my 3 were all exactly the same 7lb), long runs with superb washing facilities, not going back to work (well jealous), sticking to guns and leaving crap shoes in shop, new nephew (not so good to the bleed though), marmalade vodka (not sure if that should be a boo), carrot scrapings and 'boring' holidays 

Boo to aching legs - could be irritable or just growing pains?, boo to lost mojo and having to juggle schedules to fit everything in, arguing kids, weeding and tidying.

Hope you feel better soon CM. I also got kids back yesterday  from my sis in law so grounded again. Did quite a few double sessions over the last week, run/ bike, bike/swim, run/ swim. Legs are so tired but I only have 2 weeks until my ultra and then another 3 until my tri..... 


24/08/2013 at 22:30

Hankering after a new car. Is a people carrier worth it with just 2 kids? Debating Mazda 5 - have the 6 - they seem crazy cheap tho. Does anyone have one. What's wrong with theM?! I'd really rather the ford s max but they are about another 6k!! 

25/08/2013 at 09:27

Got to be done, EF. You need a good roomy boot for shopping (shoes, not groceries) and plenty of room for little ones in the back. Some friends of ours have the Mazda 5 and they really like it - they've only got the one child so you are definitely justified I've got a Renault Scenic which has been great, if a little expensive to repair. I like it because it has the space of a people carrier but it's not too big. That said, it doesn't really get driven much now as I prefer Ben's car (Jag X-type), which is also really roomy but fast too

It is soooooo quiet here. Ben still in need after a long day working yesterday and JP in his playroom with cars - or at least I think that's what he's doing Will enjoy my cup of tea while it lasts! 

Camlo, you'll surely make the 2013 challenge with your ultra and tri miles! I am hoping to get to 2013k with walking but we will see...

25/08/2013 at 09:31

Quiet here too. Loulou at tennis with MR's Megan and Fraser crashed out in his gym after 5 mins so now asleep in pram. Soooo much I could be doing and yet I'm having coffee and on here! 

we have Mazda 6 just now which has enormous boot but I like idea of extra seats aaa an option. Also looking at vauxhalls zafira as seem to get a lot of or your money and there are more available than Mazda 5. I'd really love a ford but mainly cos I want heated front window!! 

25/08/2013 at 09:40

tho I still think I'm not old enough for a people carrier! I'm not 40 til next yr! 

25/08/2013 at 18:06

Hmmm. Apparently our car is only worth £1k. It's admittedly rather old at a 56 plate and has 77000 miles on clock but still. A grand and there was no scope for negotiation. Bah. And the car we looked at had a massive scrape down one side and the best they would do was attempt to take it out with a buff. FFs. and Andy having hairy fit over cost and a self pity moment over fact he doesn't earn enough to let us drive sth betteR. Then got home and friend arrived to visit at 4.15. Had forgotten!! Thankfully I made flap jack yest. Phew. 

Camlo    pirate
25/08/2013 at 18:29

 A 56 plate isn't that old!!!! Never had an estate car before the focus I have now (bought while on drunken holiday with car salesman) but I love it. 

Yippee to flapjack but boo to having to share it. 

Hilly 10 for me first thing, really got me puffing! Was going to swim later but got stuck into garden instead


Camlo    pirate
25/08/2013 at 18:36

EF - I just looked on auto trader and a Mazda6 on there same age as yours is asking a lot more than a grand! 

25/08/2013 at 19:37

Sorry can't help re people carriers  .

I'm after a bit of advice for my friend from all you IVFers out there:  She has a 10 year old daughter and for about the last 5 years has been trying for a little brother or sister with no success.  They've had tests done and they both have problems so have been told IVF is the only route.  She's 38 so not got time on her side.  Basically she can't decide if IVF is the route she wants to go down as it would work out so expensive (£5k a go) and disheartening if it doesn't work.  It has a 20% success rate apparently.  Personally I don't think she'd cope emotionally if it didn't work, but she is so emotionally attached to having another child she even cries when she hears of friends who are pregnant with their 2nd child...  Is IVF worth the trauma though?  Or should she just accept what she's got and learn to come to terms with it??  So hard for her 

In other news, I got another parkrun pb yesterday !  12 seconds off so not huge but I'm pleased.

Went to see my friend's new baby today in Manchester and pleased to say I didn't feel broody .

Also we're getting another moggy next weekend hopefully - rescued one called Ruby, she's very cute .

Hope you are all enjoying your bank hols for those who have them!

25/08/2013 at 20:59

hi JG.  IVF is definitely stressful.  I was 38 when we did it and we were told success rate was more like 30% but that is also clinic dependent.  If you've had a child before I think it's slightly higher still - though they don't say that - and it will very much depend on what is wrong with her.  For us the decision was made because I didn't want to wake up at age 42 and think Feck, I wish we'd tried that.  The initial outlay is a lot - we were £5K as well but as we had extra embryos that we froze we would "only" have had to pay £800 per further shot to have those embryos put back.  My friend in Leeds had ivf too and her first two shots failed and the third worked - however the three shots all came off the one lot of drugs and embryos.  I think it's important to make a commitment to each other that after a certain number of goes that you let go of the idea if it doesn't work.  We agreed we would do the drugs part once ie the expensive bit and then we would use up all the frozen embryos and that would be that.  I found it hard just to accept what I had and come to terms with it without at least trying once.  I rationalised that it was the cost of a new car (how ironic given today's chat!) and we paid for it with a 0% credit card!  I got lots of M&S points   If she wants to talk please get her to message me on FB and I'm happy to talk about what it entails in full.  We did the short version of ivf but friend in Leeds had to do long version.  All the clinics vary.  It's a really tough one because I really don't know how I'd have coped if it hadn't worked for us.  I just didn't really let that be an option in my head and we were lucky.  It would have been all the harder with my sister being pregnant. 


Well done on the pb.  I've decided the garage gave us a derisory offer for car because frankly they don't want the hassle of having it.  It's easier to give us a shite offer and have us sell it privately and return with cash instead. It's narked me though so I won't go back if I can help it!

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