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13/12/2013 at 20:16

oh poor M. and you too. J had the pox when E was just 4 weeks old. he was really poorly with it. E and I ended up in hospital when he had it as it was when her reflux started to get really bad. we were kept in isolation in case she was incubating it. she didn't get it then and we don't really know if she's had it or not. she had a few spots when she was about 2 but i wasn't sure if they were pox or just yucky mozzie bites.

to top it all, my bank account has been defrauded to the tune of 5000 quid. well, they tried. but rather unsurprisingly, there wasn't 5000 quid in there. so now i have no debit card, no cash, no on-line banking. they even managed to change my contact details with my bank. god knows how. i have no idea how it has happened. the call with the bank was surreal. " did you spend £11 in poundland?" yes. "£6 in clintons?" yes. "£1 with capital one and then £990 and then £4300?". err no. just what i need.

13/12/2013 at 20:46
CM - I'm sorry you're feeling so awful. If there's anything at all I can do to help you get here tomorrow just shout - sorry I didn't reply earlier, Isabelle's had an 'insect' day so we've been busy all day - but I can completely understand if you can't make it, and you haven't out us out in any way. Other than that I was looking forward to meeting you and sharing some singing with you! I really hope you can make some progress with it all. A friend of ours is doing something called a 'mindfulness course' (I think!), which sounds pretty sensible and not too 'woo'!

Sorry, dinner ready and I'm absolutely shattered so am going to go and eat but wanted to reply to CM. Hoggle, hope you get sme rest. I can sympathise - O is full of cold and has been sleeping rather badly!
Camlo    pirate
13/12/2013 at 21:04

Oh dear, lots of black clouds and sad news on here. Have not been on as work this week has been awful and i have been literally falling into bed everynight and fighting my own demons.

Anyhoo - lovely to hear about successful feeding TB and getting some sleep, random runs, xmas plays and dressing up,  love the elf stories and well done getting into your race Lotte. 

Not good to hear the depression is so bad at the moment CM, not got any more advice for you but i do know that the key is to access the NHS mental health team so you can get some proper support while you get through it (with or without meds, with or without therapy). How much does T know about your state? I know you wont want to tell him anything but better he knows off you than hear off the kids and get it all wrong. Have you still got private insurance? If so why cant you go private again? 

Boo to the pox, untidy houses, naughty cats and niggling knees. 


13/12/2013 at 21:33

Camlo - how was Murcia?

how do you get access to a mental health team? 

once I have claimed once on private health for something I can't then claim again. So I have already had counselling on orivate health so can't do it again. 

Have said nothjng to T and wont. There is nothjng to be gained from it

Camlo    pirate
13/12/2013 at 22:06

Murcia was not actually murcia, it was mazzaron/ mazarron. Friend said spanish were always laid back and never start on time so we rocked up for our diving 30mins after we should have - big mistake!! Only had 5 mins tuition in the classroom before being bundled onto a boat and straight down to 10metres with me literally wetting myself. 

You should ask your GP to refer you to the mental health team for a proper assessment and support. They would be experts in the current medications and therapies and would be able to offer more practical support and advice on side effects. You dont keep seeing the GP for a chronic back problem or skin condition so why should you for depression? With regards to telling T, I doubt it would help either but if he was fighting a battle would you not expect to know so you could support the kids. I may be tempted to say I had a hormone prob in case he uses it against you (shouldnt but i know you would be terrified of that) but at least if kids say anything he wont get shirty with you. Just a thought..... You must do what you think best xxx 


13/12/2013 at 23:14

Mazarron was where we went on holiday. Actually it was just along coast from there on little tourist train. But we didn't dive. Diving is actually v scary. I did it on my honeymoon and freaked in spite of being v strong swimmer

i always wondered how people got CPNs and mental health referrals as it has never been suggested for me. But then the gp I saw this week had never heard of the ad that I had been prescribed when bf so I do wonder about quality of care / perspicacity 

Camlo    pirate
14/12/2013 at 19:42

I would ask the GP about a referral, after all they are called GENERAL practitioners for a reason and cant possibly keep up with all the developments and expertise out there. If this was your first time then fair enough but I dont think they could argue that you are a straight forward case so should refer on. There may well be a waiting list but again you need to make it clear that at times you have suicidal thoughts and that will give you priority. Chin up xxxx 

Went to see my nan today, she was very breathless and i just want to wrap my arms around her all the time. Kids went to see santa with my dad but sussed it wasnt the real one or he would have known they werent allowed chocolate. 

Just piled a few bits on our local facebook selling page and got £25 in about 5 mins, not bad for a pile of baby toys, books and some kitchen oddments.


15/12/2013 at 16:52

very quiet on here. hope everyone's ok. of course, i have no idea what anyone is up to now that i'm not on facebook anymore. haha.

hope those in the north are surviving the gales. it's been pretty windy down here. i got blown away running along the seawall yesterday. today i got absolutely soaked to the skin when i went out. came home and dripped all over my freshly cleaned floors.

camlo - i will go back to GP and ask for referral. they will probably refer me to counselling first and i have had SO much of that in the past to no avail. but i will see anyway. i picked up the prescription for sertraline on friday but i haven't taken it yet. when i came off the lofepramine (at GP's suggestion), i had such bad headaches. i thought my head was being crushed. it was like it was in a vice and someone was tightening a band around my head. i've never felt pain like it. i don't know why i would want to take medication that does this to me?? i'm terrified of taking sertraline because of what it might do to me. i have now had 2 nights where i haven't woken up bathed in sweat, and i assume it's because the ad's are now out of my system. i am still having very weird dreams but they aren't terrifying me anymore. they're just plain odd.

Camlo    pirate
15/12/2013 at 17:46

I dont think they would insist on counselling given that you have tried it before but of course who ever does the asst would need to know why it didnt work so they can plan what might work from now on. cant be easy deciding whether the tabs are worth it given the side effects - perhaps it is linked to your allergy to painkillers/ antibiotics and so a psychiatrist with specialist knowledge would be far better to work with you than a GP. Anyhoo, your run sounds great. 

I have the grumps, so bad I have only run once this week and have shunned club. Not good and I am going to have to give myself a kick in the butt before the blackness settles right in.  Want to wrap pressies but cant find a pair of bloody scissors in the whole house. Ggrrrrrrr.


15/12/2013 at 19:03
My scissors always end up in the craft box(es)

Sorry about the grumps.

Meant to ask tho - about molluscum. Any advice? E has it and it is spreading. I know yours had it camlo and also caro
15/12/2013 at 19:17

You just have to sit it out........and Matilda had it for 2 yrs or more from memory.  It got so bad that people at the swimming pool asked me what it was.  I tried several holistic things (spraying silver on them, taking blackcurrant extract etc) nothing worked other than patience and time - not my forte!  She did give it to Eric but he was

15/12/2013 at 19:18

less than 6m old and his immune system fought it off pretty quick so I'm hoping it will mean he wont get it again when older.  They got sore, they bled etc, really not pleasant and if you look closely she has lots of little marks on her legs but you would never know if you knew to look for them.

20.51 at park run yesterday - only 20 secs off my PB which I thought was ok on 6 hrs sleep and a bottle of wine.  Then did 9 miles this morning before friends came for lunch.

Camlo - go for a know you want to! (need to!)

15/12/2013 at 19:43

O. M. G. Pregnant!

15/12/2013 at 20:05

Wow fantastic (scary?!) TT!!!   Dare I ask...planned?   Congrats to you!  Love the constant babies on this thread 

15/12/2013 at 20:23
Wow TTid! Congrats!!!
15/12/2013 at 20:24
She has had them for ages. And one of them burst at her dad's. Or he squeezed it. Who knows. Anyway since then they have been spreading like mad. Yuck.
15/12/2013 at 20:40

Eek, unplanned but not unwanted if you get me. Was weird as Max apparently told Mr TT last night that he wanted a sister. Unfortunately when we dug deeper we discovered he wants an older sister!  Told him he would have to settle for his cousins. Not sure how we'll cope if this all goes as expected. 

15/12/2013 at 20:53

Wow that is great news Ttid!!!!!!!

15/12/2013 at 20:56
Wow, TT - congrats!! I can't imagine being pregnant at the moment, but when I thought about it, I was already 3 months pregnant when E was the age O is now! You'll cope just fine - it's busy and chaotic, and at times frustrating, but great fun!

CM - Isabelle had molluscum, and she's absolutely terrible for scratching and picking at her skin. She kept taking the tops off the molluscum, and they started spreading everywhere, and then after about 4 months they all disappeared. I said to my husband that they realised they'd met their match in her! There's nothing you can put on them to make them go any more quickly (I looked into it!), but if you squeeze the white bit out that one will go away. You have to be careful though because the white bit contains all the virus. They seem to go soft in the bath and you can rub them off with a towel sometimes, but then make sure the towel has a wash, and isn't shared.

Hope your weekend has been ok, and although it was a shame not to see you, I'm glad you're feeling a bit better, x
15/12/2013 at 21:15

yes, that's what I thought from my googling - that there isn't anything that you can put on them that will make them go. apparently in other countries, they do treat them by freezing them or applying stuff like you put on verrucae (assuming that's the plural). but E has dozens and dozens of them on her arm and chest, so god knows how you would treat them all! the new ones are all tiny at the moment but if they do grow to be as big as the others, she will be one seething mass of them because there literally isn't any space between them. poor love

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