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01/11/2007 at 16:22

you can buy jars of baby ricepudding. there are some suitable from 6 months so would be fine for kit.  not sure if you would want to give him that, and anyway it could be quite expensive.

you can buy rice flakes (think they sell them in the supermarket but i bought organic ones from H&B) and cook them up, either in the microwave, or in the oven or on the hob, depending on the time you have. quantities more or less the same as for porridge - ie half a cup of flakes to a cup of liquid (milk or milk and water if you prefer).  if you cook it in the oven it's probably marginally nicer as it cooks more slowly and softens up better.  probably cook for an hour in the oven or about 15-20 mins on hob (very low heat or will stick) or 2-5 mins in microwave (depending on quantities).  i used to make up batches and freeze them.  then defrost, mix with pureed fruit and heat very very well (because rice can be dodgy once frozen).

if you buy pudding rice, the only way to cook it is in the oven (i think).  you can stick it in there for hours with a load of milk and some sugar and it will cook away on a low heat.  it will tell you how to do it on the packet. to be honest, i don't buy pudding rice.  i just give jacob rice flake pudding, or the odd jar of hipps organic rice pudd.

01/11/2007 at 16:56
MM and Minks - totally with you on the clean house thing! I used to blitz our old place on a Saturday morning and that was me, rest of the weekend to run, shop and drink (usually in that order). But now the bathroom gets cleaned when I've got a spare 5 mins and my mum has been doing my hoovering once a week! We just moved into a new place at start of September so there are loads of little jobs that need finishing off as well which are just beginning to bug me, and our third bedroom (which will be the guestroom/study) is just a dumping ground at the minute and its very depressing!

MM - hat off to you for coping with all of that, and as CM says hats off to you and Hetty for managing with twins! I don't know how you do it! Hetty - sorry to hear the news about your dad, hope all is well.

Having a better day today, Megan is beginning to be much more alert and we are getting our first attempts at smiles. Also got out with pram for good couple of hours this afternoon and made it to a Starbucks as had big plans for a gingerbread latte (since I had heard rumours 1st Nov was the start of their "christmas cups" season). However, just timed it all wrong and the Starbucks I went to was mobbed with parents and children from one of Edinburgh's private schools, no spare seats and the queue was a mile long! So am going to try again tomorrow morning instead - i will get that gingerbread latte yet!!

And all this talk of baby rice has put me right in the mood for rice pudding - DH is having to get off his bus a stop early so he can go to the local store and buy me a time of Ambrosia Rice pudding, yum yum!
01/11/2007 at 17:04

MR - we moved into our house 4 years ago and there are still lots of little jobs that i wanted done then which haven't been done yet .  and there are 4 years of other jobs to do as well.  ho hum! some things are more important than others, but i really would like our outside lights to work because we live in the middle of nowhere with no street lights!

so glad you have had a better day today.  when you get your gingerbread latte tomorrow, i'll join you for a virtual caramel macchiato!

fab that megan is starting to smile as well.  it makes it all so much more worthwhile! 

nearly time to go and fetch my little monster from nursery and then i have him for the next 4 days.  we have lots planned this weekend, including coffee tomorrow at a neighbour's house; swimming on saturday; fireworks on sunday at caldicot castle and an afternoon / evening at a different neighbours house on monday for playtime / tea and then bonfire and fireworks.

haven't heard from EF for a while.  hope she's ok.

01/11/2007 at 17:14
CM - funnily enough caramel macchiato is normally my Starbucks order anyway!! Is your moniker linked to your liking of same? Sounds like a busy weekend ahead for you though...

Can vouch that EF is OK - had couple of texts from her last night. She has been reading the forum but not sure she's had time to post (mind, just reading the forum would take some time theres so much posting at the minute!).
01/11/2007 at 20:31

Hi Mummies

I always make rice pudding on the stove or in the microwave, if you make it in the oven the dish is a real b*&^% to clean afterwards!

Just boil milk and then cook as if you are cooking rice normally, if it starts to dry out but the rice is still crunchy add more milk. For us grown ups I add cream and sugar, but I guess for the babes you would cook it to the correct consistency (probably over cook rather than under?) and then sweeten to taste just before serving. Yum.

I use Arborio rice because I haven't found anywhere to buy cooking rice in Melbourne yet. Works a treat. I have also made it with brown rice which is not very puddingy but still tasty, and with coconut milk mixed in with the milk or instead of milk.

01/11/2007 at 21:45

Wow, it's been so busy on here! And all this talk of rice pudding is making me hungry!

Quick question for you all. Have other people found that losing weight through breastfeeding is actually a myth?? I am trying really hard to eat healthily and I've strated running again, but seem to be stuck at just over 10 stone. Very annoying.

MR - JP is smiling now too. It makes the hard times seem worth it, I think!


02/11/2007 at 08:19

TB - same here - stuck at just over 10 stone and running (but maybe not eating terribly healthily, TBH!).  I've resigned myself to the fact that my body is clinging on to the extra fat at the moment as insurance, and it will go when it's ready - hope my theory's true!

Better go and get J off to school - will catch up again later ...

02/11/2007 at 09:52

Just trying to think what I did for tea when the boys were younger. I think things like cauliflower cheese, potato and courgette gratin. I just used to do the veg type recipes from annabel's book, and give them meat/fish for lunch. Little sandwiches with cream cheese are great. I would wait a while with baked beans as they do have quite a bit of salt and sugar in them. I started about 11 months with baked beans but my two aren't overly impressed by them to be honest. Scrambled egg is also good as pretty soft, although my H doesn't really like the texture. He did eat his omlette last night though.

My two have our dinner from previous night for lunch plus fruit and yoghurt, then a light tea of sandwiches (cream cheese, egg mayo, peanut butter, marmite), soup, cheese chunks, toast, warburton's raisin bread is good toasted, I love it too!! Jacket pot with cheese and beans, scrambled egg, cheese on toast. I also if adventerous make little pizzas out of muffins, another annabel recipe.

I am lucky as my two eat pretty much everything, so I know something is off if they go off their food. Tea time is when little is often eaten cos they are tired. I haven't made them rice pudding yet, too much faff i always thought but may get some rice flakes. I try to make sure they eat savoury too as like me they already have a very sweet tooth. They did have a proper pudding at our friends on sunday, she made apple sponge with cream, they loved it unsurprisingly!!

02/11/2007 at 09:56

Have not read everything on here so not sure if someone suggested, but to Minks if he takes to long with his finger food, why don't you feed him the baby rice first and once you are happy with the amount he has eaten - give him the finger food and let him chomp what he wants afterwards.

Good luck to you all on here being a Mum (or in my case a dad)is the most amazing experience and if I could pass on the one peice of advice that I have learnt in the last 4 and half years is Don't be afraid to ask for help, from whatever quarter it comes from - being down or depressed or struggling is not a weakness. remember everyone feels the same at times and it is not just you.

02/11/2007 at 10:55

Thanks MM and Grendel - good idea to give finger food after the baby rice; he can have that to 'play' with while I clear up and get his bath ready.

Like the cauliflower cheese suggestion - will give that a go, also means he'll get additional milk and calcium which is always good.  Fair comment about baked beans - I did wonder about the salt/sugar content actually and had intended to check before giving him any.  I guess I can give him mashed jacket potato just with unsalted butter though?  He was good with his bottles yesterday, taking 7oz from all three bottle feeds, but may have been because I made his lunchtime solids smaller as felt he was struggling a bit with the amount because of his cold.  He was as good as gold for my mum - typical, isn't it??

This morning he 'discovered' how to blow raspberries with a mouthful of porridge and spat his cereal all over me - not good as I was dressed for work!  I said, "No, Kit!" several times in my best strict parent voice but not sure he took any notice!  He only started doing this when the cereal was almost finished so maybe he'd had enough by then and that was his way of telling me.  Sadly I suspect that's not the case and we have some messy mealtimes ahead while he plays his little game!

MR, glad you're sounding a bit brighter.  It honestly DOES get easier - and the early days ARE really tough.  I look back now, though, and wish I'd savoured them more as Kit's so big now and the tiny baby days are behind us.  At the time I think I wished them away sometimes.

Hubby and I were talking about the possibility of having another one last night.  I'm really torn - in some ways it would be lovely to have a sibling for Kit and to be a four-unit family, but in other ways it would mean a complete life change.  We'd have to move, and because I'd have to give up work we'd have to move a way out of London to be able to afford a mortgage just on hubby's salary.  I would have really struggled in the early days without the constant support of my mum, and I'm not sure how I'd cope without that especially with two children.  Am also scared of another C-section.  I know it wasn't that bad and I recovered well, but knowing it's going to happen is a bit different than it being a last-minute thing you have no choice over.  I'm not sure I'd want to try for a normal birth though, especially as Kit was so big.  Second babies are often bigger and I never would have got him out the normal way!  Also feel hubby and I have so little "me time" as it is - with another that would only reduce further.  Although I had a really good pregnancy, not sure I want to go through being pregnant again either.  Hmmm - so much to think about!

02/11/2007 at 13:35

mm - agree on the warburton's raisin bread.  we always apply a toast tax to jacob if he doesn't eat it quickly enough!

you can get reduced salt / sugar baked beans, but they are fairly foul.  you can also get organic ones from health food shops with no sugar and less salt in them.  they taste ok but probably not worth the hassle of getting unless you are going to the shop anyway.  jacob is the same as harry with scrambled eggs. doesn't seem to like them at all.  i haven't ever made poached eggs for him, and i haven't made egg mayo either coz i hate it.  should try it sometime really!

i've just been out to a friend's this morning.  there were 8 kids there in total and they all had a whale of a time.  jacob was so bushed by the time it finished that he fell asleep in his buggy on the way home.  he hasn't done that since he was about 8 weeks old! 

nice to see a few other people posting on here.  lovely to think it's our kids bringing us all together!

minks - my parents live 2.5 hours drive away and my husbands parents live in newcastle (a good 5 hours away).  i have been lucky that my parents have been to stay a lot since j was born, but you do make a lot of friends associated with your kids anyway.  i didn't know the neighbour i've been visiting this morning at all before i had jacob.  it's still only 8 months since kit was born - perhaps you just need a bit more time to enjoy him and settle down in your life as a family of 3 before you have another one?  we were talking a lot about that this morning with my friends.  everyone apart from me is desperate for another one, but most of them already have 2 and their husbands are saying no!  the being pregnant / giving birth bit was easy for me - it was what happened afterwards!

and MR - yes, i'm a caramel macchiato fan.  not sure why because it's very sickly, but i always end up ordering it if i'm in starbucks.

02/11/2007 at 13:59

Hard one Minks. My feeling is that the pregnancy, initial months/years are worth it to get a bigger family. I had a horrendous pregnancy as you all know with only about 8 weeks when I felt remotely OK and certainly not normal! But would love more so would be prepared to go through the hell again.

I am the same as Janie and CM my family live nowhere near. We're talking 7 hours to my Mums in pembrokeshire, maybe 5.5 in the middle of the night!!! 4 hours to hubbie's parents in somerset, but his mum is disabled so they struggle to help anyway, and 4 hours to hubbie's sister in newcastle. My brother and sister are both about 2-3 hours away. I have built up a tremendously helpful network of friends, living in a village is very helpful for this and I have made some great friends, and antenatal, postnatal friends are wonderful too. I have two friends with twins about the same the age. We meet every week which is so supportive to all of us I think especially early on. I have set up a baby sitting circle in the village which helps with baby sitting. Mum tries to see the boys every 6 weeks or so by coming over, I have yet to brave driving over there by myself!

You wouldn't necessarily have to give up work as the costs should be less than for my two. Kit would be going to pre-school in 2009 so that would help immensely as much much cheaper than private childcare costs.

I would love another chance, but my risks of twins I'm guessing are pretty high. I would love a little girl to balance out the family. Hubbie not convinced as we would also have to move. But to be honest we will have to move in 2-3 years anyway. House will not be big enough for two energetic boys, and two places for us to work at home.

02/11/2007 at 14:02
LOL about the raspberries Minks, I remember being covered in orange coloured gunk! I'm afraid its not always when they are full!!! Both mine still do it now but not so much when eating. They usually have a raspberry competition in the car!!!
02/11/2007 at 14:35

Hadn't realised how lucky I am to have my mum living so close - she is less than 5 minutes' walk from us!  I think I've been grateful to have her around for emotional support as much as anything else - although hubby is wonderful and hugely supportive, he obviously can't fully appreciate what it's like to be a mum!  I have made friends since having Kit, whom I saw weekly until I came back to work, and that's been great, but I suppose I haven't made that much effort to join mother/baby groups locally because I've tended to see my mum a lot.  Also I've found (certainly earlier on) that the times of these groups always clashed with Kit's feeds/naps and his routine was more important to me than meeting up with other mums.

I suppose it depends on how big an age gap there was between them as to whether I'd have to give up work, but can't quite imagine how I'd juggle a baby, picking up Kit from pre-school/nursery AND a job, especially without having my mum round the corner.  If we could afford a larger house where we live now it would be fine!  Part-time jobs are hard to come by so if we moved away from where we live now and I couldn't commute into my present job then I'm not sure how easy it would be to find another.

JT, was reading on another website earlier that lots of women have to fight to be allowed to have a second C-section even if their first baby was delivered that way.  Really surprised me as I thought after having one C-section, you would automatically be able to choose to have another one.  Although I don't like the thought of having another - think I have horrible visions of the scar being painful as my tummy expands, and also of them making a mess of it next time: at the moment I have a really neat scar and would like to keep it that way!  But Kit was quite big and I'm not at all sure I'd want to go for a "trial by scar" either.  Maybe it's just too soon to be thinking about it at all - Kit's only 8 months and I want to enjoy him as he is before I start thinking about a brother or sister for him.  Actually think I'd like another boy though - don't know why!

02/11/2007 at 16:22
Minks/ JT - I think it depends on the consultant / hospital policy as to whether you will be offered an elective c/s - and also the reason why you had it in the first place.  My first c/s was a failed induction which led to failure to progress, but H was also a big baby (9lb 5)  so I think that played a part - 2nd time round the consultant was keen for me to consider an elective but I opted for attempting a VBAC (again ended up in c/s for failure to progress - even bigger baby at 9lb 10) - 3rd time the consultant categorically stated I should have a c/s but I went against this and opted again to attempt a VBAC but as you know ended up with 3rd c/s.  Can reassure you that I had no problems with the scar in either subsequent pregnancy - even this time when I ran till the end.  And the scar seems reasonably neat this time - it's hard to tell for definite as there's still a lot of shrinking for my tummy to do, I hope! If I were to have a 4th - which we're NOT planning to do! - I would def. have an elective c/s as I think it's too risky to opt for a VBAC after 3 c/s.
02/11/2007 at 17:24

Have a similar dilemma with having a second (or indeed third!). We definitely want to add to our family, but I've been told to expect a 12 pounder next time round (JP was 10/6 and a half)!  Obviously in view of this, I would prefer an elective C/S, but my M/W told me that most consultants at the hospital I'm with would say that I'd delivered one big baby naturally so I could have a go at doing it again. I have to say I'm not too sure about that!!! But if I do end up using the more traditional exit route (as it were!), then I will have an epidural from the very start - I don't intend feeling any more pain than I need to!

02/11/2007 at 19:39
TB - can understand where you're coming from - half of me feels relieved that I didn't have to birth my babies - although I didn't want to have a c/s each time, I think it probably was the best option considering the size of my babies - and they were 'only' 9lb-ers!  Maybe you will be able to argue your case with the consultant - mine seemed to think that a potential big baby was reason enough to urge me to have an elective c/s (although obviously I had had previous c/sections so the risk factors were different).
02/11/2007 at 22:27

JT - loved the epidural so much I wanted to marry the anaesthetist! I went from agony to completely calm within minutes. What surprised me was how much I could actually feel. I'd expected my lower body to be totally numb, but the only thing I couldn't feel was the pain. Like you, SB, I don't really want to have a C/S, but knowing what hard work it was to push JP out (3 hours and 2 episiotomies later!), I think it would be the sensible thing to do if Bogle No. 2 is any bigger. I suppose I'll know what the right thing is nearer the time!

Been sorting out JP's wardrobe tonight. He is rapidly becoming the owner of more clothes than me (never thought that would be possible!). Scary thing is, he's already in 3-6 months stuff and he's only 6 weeks old on Sunday!

02/11/2007 at 22:38

hi, yes I have been lurking and not posting.  honestly, hubby has bought new Football Manager 2008 so by the time I get him off the PC and get to look at my emails and the forum it's about 11.30pm so I just read to catch up a bit and then slope off to bed.  Plus the tantrums he's thrown over that game......and I thought I just had the one child. 

Spent today trying to extend the period of hire for the hire car.  it's all complicated because I hired from Liverpool originally.  I then swopped the car at the Annandale St branch in Edinburgh.  Was on the phone to some woman from Glasgow who told me that her computer says there are 3 branches of Enterprise in Edinburgh and not one in Annandale Street so she wasn't going to spend all day arguing with me about whether there was a branch or not because there wasn't.  I got equally het up saying I knew fine that there was one because that's where I got the present car from!  She then had to swallow her words as she pressed a different button on her computer and hey presto Annandale St branch appeared.  My car should be back a week today but my hire runs out on Monday. 

Got to go into work on Tuesday for some hideous promotional DVD we are filming and they want me on it.  It'll be good to see everyone and Louise will be doted on so should be fine.

Can't remember when I last posted so apologies if I duplicate anything!!  Took Louise swimming last week and she loved it.  Her second lesson is tomorrow and Andy is doing that.  The only thing is she was a wee bit cry-y today, most unlike her, and she keeps swiping at her right ear.  Do you think she could have an ear infection or do you think she's just discovered that there is something attached to her head?  She woke up tonight after her 7pm feed which is very much out of character and Andy had to pick her up and walk with her to soothe her.  She's slept since and all day I've put her crying down to being overtired as Granny was round this morning and so every single toy was played with and she only had half an hour's sleep from 11am to 7pm.  The possibility of an ear infection only occured to me as I read a baby book tonight!

Funny all the talk of no 2 babies - I am definitely up for it.  I just need to get something from the doc to say I can have an epidural from 0.5cm dilated because I think that was the point I started climbing the walls this time round and I don't know if I can do it again.  Would also like to have some sort of scan late in the day to check how baby lying as if it's back to back then I'm going in early and getting all the pain relief of the day from the start. 

Didn't do anything for halloween but Louise had the cutest bodysuit in bright orange with a spider and web on it and Happy Halloween!  We were sent it from Canada and it was lovely.  Even the wee label at the side said "EEEK!"

Back on the work front, have had a call to say condensed hours have been formally approved by the board so that is sorted.  have asked for access to our system from home too but that has to go to the IT dept to consider so I won't get an answer for a while.

Right, time to get Louise up for late feed.  Sorry not to mention any of you by name but you've been mega posting and I can't remember who said what!! Have a good weekend all.


02/11/2007 at 23:05

Gosh you lot have been busy!!

Just read back and just want to sent big hugs to MR and Caramel.

Gosh its been a busy few weeks and it has finally caught up... exhausted and got a stinking cold.  After visiting Dad then went to devon with friends for the weekend (serious bad mum point, forgot the girls bag and had to make do with what they had on and 1 babygro each - poor mites had to sleep wrapped in towels!.... they survived)

This week was my birthday and then went to London and have left the girls with Mum for the weekend... had a big night out planned tonight but too rough so going to do some serious sleeping instead and hoping I feel well enough to go to a gig tomorrow.  Missing them already, but it was lovely to see Mum and my step dad so excited at having them to stay for the first time.  I really wish they were closer, as much for them and the girls as for the supoort they give me.

I would love to give birth naturally if and when there is a next time (like you MM, would be slightly concerned it would be twins again!) but not sure why - did feel slighty cheated of the experience by having a section but due to the complications I had after am very glad i did.  Policy round here seems to be you can elect for a second section whatever the reason of the first if you wish.

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