Roberts, i had IT band troubles and a pain onthe corner of my kneecap which i thought was IT pain, once i had the IT bands sorted i carried on running and the pain got quite bad quickly. I took 2 weeks off and then ran 1m and it niggled so i stopped.That was 2 weeks ago, i have pain if i touch the side of the knee and where the insertion point is and pain if i walk downstairs.Been taking anti-inflamms daily and icing it a lot. I am not running now until the kids go back to school in september which is 6/7 more weeks and apart from that 1 run i have been out for 4 weeks but i was using the elliptical which apparently is a no-no. I biked at the weekend and that upset it too so ditched the bike now.I hate swimming so am a bit stuck. I have a marathon in december so may have to ditch that as well.