Sudden knee problem!

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03/03/2008 at 09:19

Morning,

6 weeks before the marathon and I develop a knee problem! Feel very frustrated, worried and annoyed.

Knees have been fine then I get a sudden sharp shooting pain in my right knee at the side. Seems to be hurt if I put my foot down and ground is uneven or when I go down the stairs. Had to give up at 13 miles on Saturday and planned to do 18.

Got a physio appointments on Weds anyway but it seems a long way off.

At the moment my glass is half empty.....

03/03/2008 at 10:08
I have started to get this also. Been training for the Bath Half  and upped my miles from 6 to 8 and suddenly this problem started. I run for a good 2 miles and then my left knee starts to ache,  I will have to pull out  of the run. I also get  bad pain when I sit for any length of time, when I get up the knee appears to lock and the pain is agonising when I try to straighten it. Not sure what  to do? Do I rest it for a few days or go and see the Doctor?  
03/03/2008 at 10:19
They reckon rest is the first step (no pun intended). Do you have healthcare? I've got mine through work and am having physio through it. Any problem I've ever had has been sorted with physio so I'm a big fan of getting things looked at ASAP.
03/03/2008 at 11:24

Check out this website, but only as guidance as you might go through it and decide you have syptoms of everything!

 I have a pain at the moment which feels like it's under the knee cap which is more of an annoyance than sore, the syptoms you describe sound like this which is the same as what I found(i'm no dr) :

 Patellofemoral Pain Syndrome
(Anterior Knee Pain)

http://www.physioroom.com/injuries/knee/index.php?SKEY=34e96e88e8d13292c863a79bfe192cf0

03/03/2008 at 11:30
What a fab website!!! Thanks so much for this. Sometimes you just want reassurance that its not a major problem......
03/03/2008 at 12:11
I do not have Healthcare but may see a physio. I will follow some guidance i.e.e rest and excercise to relief the pain and try running again in about 6 weeks. Keep us posted on your progress and best of luck. WS  
03/03/2008 at 12:42

Would be good to know what diagnosis your physio gives and advice on getting it back to normal.

03/03/2008 at 12:54

I'll def let you know what she says. May take a notebook!!

WS - I think rest is def the first thing you could do. Have a look at that website that Simon suggested, it's great!!

03/03/2008 at 12:57
I have this too, and am currently having physio for it. Apparently, it's Runners Knee. Lots of pulling my knee cap in different directions and accupuncture. I also needed to change my trainers, as a woman and an overpronator I am particularly susceptible to this. Great.

P.s OW!
03/03/2008 at 13:02
I changed my trainers fairly recently and don't think it can be that. I just want it sorted so I can get back to marathon training!!
03/03/2008 at 15:19
SamLI checked the Web site and great himts and tips. I will have to pull out of the Bath Half and concentrate on getting ready for a local 10 miler in May and the British 10k in July.All the best and get better sharpish WS PS Good luck with Marathon and am sure you will get round.
03/03/2008 at 16:52
fairly good website describing common injury problems.
03/03/2008 at 17:29
Sam, I would bet my mortgage, my nephews and nieces and at least four major organs that you do NOT have what Simon and Fiendish have. Pain at the side (the outer side) of the knee (especially when increasing mileage) is almost always ilio-tibial band syndrome (ITBS) and not patellofemoral pain syndrome, which is kind-of behind the kneecap (but can have some common origins). Neither is trivial, and you'll need to pay close attention to what the physio says (well done for booking one, by the way), and don't be tempted to run til you get the OK.

Also, new shoes can be a cause of injury, especially if they're not suited to your gait. But see what the expert says.
Edited: 03/03/2008 at 17:30
03/03/2008 at 17:35

It's def not behind the kneecap. I like the fact you're willing to bet so heavily - it gives me confidence!!

The curse of a runner (albeit not a fast one) is that any time spent away from training feels like the end of the world. I've done nothing but worry about it today but it's not going to help me.

If the worst comes to the worst and I need to take time out then so be it. I'm determined to do the marathon. Unless the physio tells me 'no way'!!

I've had my trainers since Jan - would they cause a prob this far in to the running?

03/03/2008 at 21:00

hi sam

 Im in the same boat unfortunatly - i tried running tonight and it just wasn't happening.  The pain started when i did the 3 peaks 2 weeks ago, and i could walk ok but when i was going downhill or stepping downwords over rocks (like stairs) it was bad.  I rested all last week but still couldn't manage it tonight.  I also have new trainers but i have trained well and ran 2 races in them, howver it took me about 3 weeks to break them in.

 Sam - let me know how you get on as im feeling frustrated and just wanna go running!

04/03/2008 at 09:05

Hi Phill,

My knee feels a lot better today and I've only had a couple of twinges - I'm hoping thats a good sign!

It's so frustrating not being able to run, I'm itching to get back to it. Was meant to go this morning before work but I decided yesterday that would just be stupid. Will email Thurs morn after the physio and let everyone know what she says.

Maybe you should book an appointment. I had a bad foot about 2 years ago and didn't see anyone for a while. When I did go they sorted it after about 3 or 4 sessions. As you've rested it and it's still bad maybe it's time to see someone.

04/03/2008 at 11:42
Lots of aches today.  Going downstairs is the worst. I did swim last night which does not affect the problem. I think I will see the doctor and get a physio appointment. I can also can feel lots of creeking and and strange movement at the side of the left knee so hope I have not aggrevated it too much.Sam, all the best with you recovery.
04/03/2008 at 11:55
I really think you should do that even if it feels better still get that appointment!
04/03/2008 at 13:16
Advice taken. I wll book up this afternoon. The strange thing with this problem is that it feels fine for a while but then it returns, 
04/03/2008 at 13:17
Well my 2 weeks of rest and only walking the dogs seems to have paid off no pain last night whilst walking and going up and down the stairs isn't hurting at all today. Seems like progress. I might be able to have a light jog tonight and see what happens...
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