Sub 3:45 Group
Tuesday nights me would have been happy with that Stoker, I was a tad creaky in the warming weather and after a hard month. 7.5 at 7.49 pace, three weeks back I did a simialr distance in 7.05's without much effort. One hard session tonight and 10 days taper till Hull marathon
Funny how quite the forums get when we get a few days sun
I have my final hard session tonight, well a reasonably face paced 7miles. I tried to do a fast 5 on Tuesday but my legs were tired from Saturday's long run so I listened to them and didn't push it. I then have 17 days tapering, which seems quite luxurious compared to Drunken!
I'm getting slighlty anxious now, I don't have any worries about completeing the distance I do however worry about getting round in a time I am happy with.
Bec - Over the last few years I've never really tapered much for anything. Ten days is enough as I had an easy week last week post-Hardmoors. my best marathon came off a two week taper. 25m on Sunday may seem a lot, but on trail thats my bread and butter, so I class that as taper. If I tried to to that fast, or something on road faster of say 12m+, that would do me more harm. I wouldn't advise my approach to everybody though, I've learnt mostly how I work since FLM 2005.
So, have I missed a list of marathons, time, target, etc...? maybe too early for VLM crowd, but as I'm next week:
Name Marathon PB Target Road maras No race day kit
Euph Hull (08/04) 3.39 3.20-30 5 ? purple City of Hull AC vest
The No and race day kit is mostly for you doing the popular marathons, its a nightmare trying to find people at start of VLM for a pre-race hello, post-race "autopsy" etc...
I think I put this on another thread the other day, one of the best bits of simple long distance running advice: "Its not the distance, but the pace that kills you". Beders who used to post on here used to have a great stat, something like, 30 secs too fast per mile early door will cost you two minutes per mile after 20.
I'll be starting steady, building to my slowest target pace over first 5m. If i pick up some pace without effort thats ok, but I won't be pushing it or watching pace till beyond halfway.
CR - May see you at Borrowdale
Bec - I'd say the makeup of session isn't that important, the schedule just wants you out the door doing the last semi-tough intensity session before the big day. Leaving it till tomorrow or next day wouldn't do much harm, but I'd still do something, if just to remind yourself you can still do a harder session as legs seemingly turn to mush and lungs to concrete during the taper. personally I'd get out there, can't be the worst conditions we've had this year for training. Put an extra layer (or waterproof) on and do it ;)
Getting there LS, sub-8's on the horizon now.
Sounds good LM, you'll be suprised on the day that it'll feel easier at the same pace and even a bit faster if you taper your training right, take life easier outside of training too and eat properly, loading up carbs a few days before the day. Prior to my best marathon (not PB) I did 20@8:19(flat race), 22.6@8:58 (flat), 20@8:44 (undulating), 22.75@8:39 (undulating) for 26.2@8:34 (on a course that was quite a bit more undulating per mile than the 20+s in training).
And my comment on my log after the 22.75 was: "Painful LSR, hope I'm a bit fresher on the big day so I'm not thinking of giving up running from 3/4 distance. Good pace, not sure I could maintain much better with challenging hills"So we've all been there, thought the same and its come good on the day
Hi all, I'm hoping some of you will be able to help! I'm doing London in a few weeks!
I have never done a marathon before and not kowing my pace put myself inthe 4hr15 group (pen 7!) but training has been going well and I'm on for about 3hr30mins or just over (did 21.5 in 2hr55 at the weekend).
I've spoken to the people at VLM and they're completely immovable on switching pens at this stage. Does anyone know how easy it will be to sneak forward to a different pen on the day? Or if anyone's done this before can you please let me know how I can avoid being slowed in pen 7 and cancelling out all this great training I've been doing?!
Help much appreciated!!!
Hi GL2 - Pens aren't guarded or seperated as such (if I recall), I think they check you go in right pen, but you can always weave, push and shove your way forward before the start. The earlier you get in the easier that would be as I'm guessing many people are thinking similar.
Good stuff Bec My missus always thinks I'm mad with my "go out in almost any weather" policy, but I rarely finish a run thinking I wish I hadn't done that, due to the weather. And I usually find if I can get a shower/bath quickly after, before skin cools down, a run acts as an effective central heating system on colder days. So its a double win for this "tight" northerner
Sounds like there is some proper good running going on chaps and chapesses... well done... keep it up and good luck in London GL2!
Good luck Becs - whens your run and which one ya doing?
I've had a couple of days off, resting the tired legs. Local annual 5mile race tomorrow - previous PB 36m 40s - hopefully beat that tomorrow, then breaking more new ground with an 18m LSR on early Easter Sunday.... 16m being my previous furthest... then just 7 weeks to go to build that mileage...
LS - Good to hear Dogfish is still running (and still fast). Cracking pace for your run yesterday, good signs for the HM!
Masters should be good, gorgeous course, I always watch it despite the limited coverage we always seem to get in the UK. I'd still take the Olympics, well some of it, I'm not really into sailing, field events, shooting, weight-lifting, sync swimming, gymnastics, but love to see the track and road running and cycling at that level. Love to get up early and watch the marathon's.
I'm properly into tapering mode, legs feel like running through treacle and little short runs this week just seem mundane. Only one more run in next few days and then its Hull Marathon on Sunday! 8am start, which is far better than a later start as I should be done and dusted by midday and in a beer garden (weather depending) soon after
Hi all, seems I'm late in joining this (massive!) thread, but thanks so much for your advice! I will get my elbow spurs on for the VLM this year, in a binbag - classy! Only problem I envisage is not being able to have a last minute pee if I manage to push a pen forward as I won't be able to get back in! But I will cross that bridge when I come to it!
Sounds like there is some excellent running going on! I'm in my taper for London now, and looking forward to the next couple of weeks very much taking my foot off the gas before the big day.
Good luck to everyone else!
Hi Tom - thats one way to pace it, but I'd have thought a more even pace would work better for 26.2. A negative split (faster second half than first) is a rare thing in a marathon.
As I dust off my first beer just after midday on Sunday - to celebrate a PB of course - I'll think of all you lot with two weeks to go till VLM. And I'll toast a drink to your achievements on the day, whether first, second, fifth or thirtieth mara, whatever the time, pace, ..... As Tom says, Enjoy, its a lot of effort to put into something that you don't.
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