Ask the Experts: Marathon Injury Prevention Q+A with Sarah Connors

If you've got any aches or niggles, then Sarah’s Connor’s here to help

1 to 20 of 66 messages
18/03/2011 at 12:09

ASICS Super Six physio and ASICS PRO Team member Sarah Connors will be online between 1.30pm and 2.30pm today to answer your marathon - and half-marathon - injury questions.

Sarah is a chartered physiotherapist who has specialised in treating track and field athletes for the past 20 years. She has worked for the British Athletics Team and was lead physio for the English Institute of Sport in London before setting up a successful sports injuries clinic.

If you've got any aches or niggles from your training, then Sarah's on hand with expert advice to get you running fit again.

We're opening the discussion now so Sarah will be able to get stuck in straight away at 1.30pm (rather than having to deal with too many questions all at once). That's enough from me - time to get posting!

Dominique RW

18/03/2011 at 12:33

Hi

I ran my 1stHalf Marathon 2 weekends ago at Silverstone.

 I've trained over 12 weeks, gradually increasing time/distance without any injuries or pain. I have had a weeks rest since the event but ran 3.5 miles Tuesday and the sides of both of knees now hurt (feels like bruising).

 Could you offer any idea as to what I may have done or what may have caused this pain?

 Many thanks

Neil Mayo

18/03/2011 at 12:39

Hi,

 

Target is Paris Marathon, so just over 3 weeks to go.

 

Running >60mpw average for 10 weeks, >40mpw for 8 weeks prior to that. Hardly a niggle.

Ran a HM last Sunday not quite all out. Fairly sharp localised pain inside the knee joint/just above and behind the medial side of the patella appeared about 7 hours after the race (did 1-2 mile jogged cool down but then stuck in a car for hours due to a break-down so knees were flexed for ages).

This is supposed to be my last big week pre 3 week taper.

Took Mon/Tue off, felt fine Wed am, ran 5m slow, no pain during run, pain returned later that day. Felt fine Thurs, ran pm, 5m slow (tender on occasion), pain returned half hour after run but no worse, in fact slightly milder.

Cycled Monday (not since) and that was by far the worst thing for the pain.

No pain under load/impact point when running, happens during flexion. Going downstairs isn’t great.

No swelling. No pain when static in any position.

Tempted to try to run through it.

 

Just a bit of bruising that will ease or is it cartilage issue that will just get worse with running on it?

Do I bother going to a physio?

Do I just stop running for the next 3 days and then hope it is OK next Monday and switch to a bizarre 1 week massive cut back, 1 week decent easy mileage then 2 week taper?


Thanks. Apologies for long-winded post.

18/03/2011 at 12:42

Hello Sarah,
is there any merit in a general stretching regime?  I'm very lax at stretching post-exercise, but could find 10-15 minutes in my early morning routine.  Is this enough time and is there any benefit to stretching non-exercised muscles?

Thanks

kittenkat    pirate
18/03/2011 at 12:42

Hi Sarah,

I've had problems with sciatic pain and what I think is piriformis, that's all eased off a bit but I've had pain and some numbness in my coccyx. When this was bad I took about 10 days off running, but now, with slight pain and numbness still there, running seems to help....

Could this be so? I think what I'm trying to ask is if running can do any harm?

Surely being inactive is worse for the coccyx?

Thanks in advance.

Kate

18/03/2011 at 12:51

Hi

I've been plaged with it band issues whilst trainning for Brighton. I've been able to pack away some nice LSR, but they take a week to recover from due to knee pain. My 20 miler was last saturday and between taping and pills I made it around in a great time. Alas my knees still slighly ache.

Can I not run until Brighton but keep my fitness level up by swimmimg and cycling 4 times per week or should I test the waters and attempt a few runs in my taper? 

Cheers

C.

18/03/2011 at 12:52
Hi Sarah,
I've been running on roads up to half marathon distance for the last few years with no injuries
Tried a treadmill 3 weeks ago and ever sinse I've been suffering shin splints in my left leg (outside of shin). rested for 2 weeks and tried again but felt pain after 10 mins.
What is the fastest way to get back running?
Total rest or are there any exercises/stretches which could help?
I have a race in may which I am trying to train for.

Thanks

Kevin
18/03/2011 at 12:52

Hi Sarah,

 I've been running 10k 3 times a week since early January with a local running club.  I had the usual aches and pains to start with but I've got a achey feeling in my right hamstring for about 2 weeks.

It doesnt stop me from running, there is no direct pain or bruising but I feel it more when I'm sitting down.  I regularly stretch after running and only run slowly before starting any run.

I was wondering whether I need to stop running or whether I need to perform specific hamstring relative stretches to help?

Steve

18/03/2011 at 12:52

Hi there

 Took a calf strain on sunday morn, which at the time was v painful,  no bruising though tender to touch, walking in shoes ok, feel it a bit barefoot and on stairs but can't believe how much better it is already.

  Don't want to start running again until I'm completely sure I have recovered.  Given that its not too bad how long do you think I should wait and what sort of programme should I follow...I live in a very hilly area and was running 6miles x 4 weekly.  (not currently training for anything, just love running).

 Many thanks!

18/03/2011 at 12:53

Hi I had a Stress Fracture/Stress Reaction 3/4 of the way up Tibia back in May (only diagnosed via isotope bone scan, as MRI came back negative), took 4 months off from running completely and have since Sept been back running, without major issues (except occassional tightness in tibialis anterior)

SInce returning and building up distances the highest MPW i have done is about 40 (prior to injury it was consistant 80-100)...and been fearful to do too much.

My question: is there a period of time after which you would consider a SF/Reaction to be 'better'...? Or is it a case of suck it and see? 

I believe that a follow-up bone scan would come back positive, due to slow renewal of bone tissue...so am i correct to assume it is simply a case of 'be careful with mileage build up and stop if it hurts'...?

Thanks!
Nick

Edited: 18/03/2011 at 12:53
18/03/2011 at 12:57

Hi Sarah,

I have just had to withdraw from this years VLM due to Retrocalaneal Bursitis. It flared up on a run back on the 7th Jan. After a good solid 10 weeks of training before hand 

 I have laid off Running ( still cycling and swimming) and taking Anti Inflams ( diclofenac and Iburprofen - Not at the same time I might add) Raising it, icing it etc etc.

 Runners weren't old only had 100miles in and the same model as always use ( kayano's) although the model number had increased from a 16 to a 17, normally just cosmetic changes I believe but wondering if this has had an effect. Subsequently changed to Brooks and these feel far more comfortable.

 Every time it has felt better and I start running again it flairs back up ( been having some ultrasound). Currently 2 weeks into 3 weeks of total running abstinence but it just not feeling quite right.

I am starting to get very frustrated that it just won't go away. Any suggestions or exercises to accelerate things? I have weekly ultrasound and massage also. Desperate to get back out running.

 Thank-You in advance 

18/03/2011 at 12:59

Hi Sarah,

I'm training for VLM and doing 4 runs a week 1 LSR 1 interval 1 easy 1 steady at ~40 miles a week. All going ok until Essex 20 when at around 10 miles I could feel my left quad (inside middle to lower side) started to tighten. Finished but was very sore at end. Went for easy run 2 days later and stopped at 3.5 miles as it kept getting sore but would go as soon as I stopped running. Rested until friday and went for 8 easy and no issues So did LSR off road (22m) again no real problems, Did another 8 easy following day legs felt heavy and a little sore but that went next day. Decided to do intervals and no issues until last rep when got tight again. I ice and stretch every night on it and also use foam roller.  I have not run since yesterday morning  and will not run again until Sunday (have a half marathon).

Is there anything I can do to stop getting tight in that area or could it be a pull or strain that I just need to rest?

18/03/2011 at 13:00

Hi Sarah

 I have similar problem to _Ciaran.

I am running Brighton.  I did a 20miler two weeks ago & last weekend a half-marathon.  In between the two I started get problems above the knees.  Chiro' said IT probs so take it easy.  Did two 6milers this week but it's much sorer - not awful - I just know it's there.  Anyway, my regular Chiro is away so the new person said it's actually TFL probs - gave me laser treatment told me to miss long run this weekend & just do 4/5miles.  She said I should be ok if I pace myself.  My question is - have I peaked too early with my long run (next weekend I should start to taper with a 15, then 12 then race).  Should I attempt another 20 miler next weekend - or should my 20miler (5 weeks before race) be sufficient?  Also, is my chiro correct in saying I can carry on running (I have no pain at all when I walk)?

Sorry for warbling on....Liam

18/03/2011 at 13:00

Hi

At the beginning of my marathon training, back in December, I stuffed with a lot of pain in my knee at the end of a 13 mile run, with pain also going across the top of my thigh.  I visited a sports injury clinic who put it down to having a tight hip flexor.  After having regular sports massages and doing lets of form rolling, I have been able to complete my training for Brighton without much problem.

 However, I did a HM on Sunday, where I put in a high pace and, come mile 12, my knee began to hurt a lot.  However, as I was on path for a PB I continued and, at the end of the race, had extereme pain in my knee on the outside, and also the top, and found it hard to walk for a few days.  Whilst it feels ok now, I had a sports massage on Wednesday and was told that I might have inflamed my ACL and to not do any running for a week.

My concern is that, with three weeks to go, whilst I realise I should be tapper, is doing nothing for a whole week going to set me back.  Also, if I have inflamed my ACL, am I going to be ok to run a marathon in three weeks. I don't want to do it and injury myself further.

Thanks, Tori

18/03/2011 at 13:10

Hi Sarah,

I was on a run nearly 3 weeks ago and I've done something to my achilles.

It felt tight when I started running, but I hoped it would ease up. After the run though, it felt very tender

I rested for 3 days and tried a short run, then rested for 5 days before trying again. Both times the pain was there as soon as I started running, although bearable.  I have run 3 miles this morning,  after 9 days rest, and the pain is back with a vengeance.

How long should I be resting for? I have pulled out of the Wilmslow half on 27th March, but I am so looking forward  to running the Chester half on 15th May.

I really don't want to lose any training time! Can you recommend any home treatments?

Thanks,

Jackie

18/03/2011 at 13:19

Hi there,

 I am running the Brighton Marathon in three weeks, my first for 15 years.  Training was going well until I went out for a run on Feb 27th when I had pains in my inner thigh.  I assume this is a groin strain, so I stopped training for a week.  I then did the Eastbourne Half on March 6th without too much difficulty but the pain in my thigh returned the day after.

 So I rested again and waited until the pain subsided before doing a 20 mile run at the weekend.  Now the pain has come back again and this time does not seem to be subsiding too quickly.

 I guess I am returning to running too quickly?  In which case what should be my strategy to ensure I am recovered for Brighton April 10th? 

 Thanks, Rob

18/03/2011 at 13:19
I've got ITB pain below the knee after ramping up mileage significantly and never had it before. Is this an indication of TFL weakness, or some other muscle structures meaning it's getting overloaded?
18/03/2011 at 13:29
Hi Sarah

Having just finished a eight week treatment course with a local pysio, for a reoccurring achilles problem in both feet, I have now started doing short 10 - 15 minute runs twice a week in woodland and lots of stretching after each run, apart for some slight soreness in my right foot everything seems ok

Is it now a case of listening to my body and increasing pace and distance gradually ?
I currently run in Asics 1150 shoes as I slightly pronate would I get better support if I was to purchase a more expensive support shoe from the Asic`s range? If so could you recommend any ?

Thanks

Mick
18/03/2011 at 13:33

Hi Neil,

is it the inside or outside of the knees that aches.

sarah

18/03/2011 at 13:37

Hi Galbraith,

this sounds like your quad muscle is tight and it's compressing the patella which is why sore sitting and down stairs. Try and stretch the quad as shown in the video and also hamstringabut concentrate on the quads.

This should ease your pain straight away, if no change see a physio as quad ttightness may be coming from lower back which will need mobilising. Also try foam rolling the hip flexor that sits on the outside of the hip.

 Don't leave it to chance and do nothing as it will still be there.

Good luck

sarah

1 to 20 of 66 messages
Previously bookmarked threads are now visible in "Followed Threads". You can also manage notifications on these threads from the "Forum Settings" section of your profile settings page to prevent being sent an email when a reply is made.
Forum Jump  

RW Forums