Auviour Paris: So long and thanks for the cobbles

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20/11/2012 at 09:39
That was fun! Gosh you guys are quick. I'm on the bike here multitasking.
20/11/2012 at 09:40

mcs - nice to see that people do actually win prizes in those surveys and they are not all rigged.  

SB - don't be a wimp! (say's me on a treadmill day )

I've had so many people (not specialists) tell me my knee problem is ITB that I'm giving the roller a proper go now.  I'm using it 3-4 times a day now and will continue to do so until the pain is completely gone, or until I've seen the orthopaedist.  It hasn't suffered any ill effect following my 14 mile hilly trail run, so I'm pretty happy that I can at least do steady runs and build up speed gradually.

20/11/2012 at 09:43

Reiki - yes, great fun

20/11/2012 at 10:20

Ten I almost hope it is because the roller works a treat for me, this after years of winding it up, resting it, winding it up again!

20/11/2012 at 10:28

Sorted computer setting for my mouse anything and you can find the answer these days!!!  Did a four mile interval session to work nd managed three 7 minute miles ouch it was hard work as a head wind in the shower and then realised no towel, paper towels are not nice!!!! Have to laugh!! love running when its raining.
Sounds like cars are selling well...the UK market is doing quite well at the moment surprisingly......where does all the money come from.....the children in need collection never goes down amazing.

20/11/2012 at 11:34
SB , armed forces get a special discount from vauxhall on new cars !! Everyone how runs gets a special discount on new and used !!

Did my 16, first 13 were really comfortable @ 8:40 ave pace last 3 miles into the wind and rain were tough, finished at 8:45 ave pace. Not run that far for about 5 weeks so good to get it banked.

MCS, never under stand we're the money comes from, more and more races every year and most are full, weird !!

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20/11/2012 at 12:17

Seen any good vw transporters FH?
Windy here too today and still slashing down!!

20/11/2012 at 12:39

About to embark on my run today and I have a question, my autumn racing schedule is now over and after this week of free form do as you please type of running, my thoughts turn to the VLM and base training the trouble is I have never done this before.  So what can you all advise?  I want to be strong a fast ready to start the training plan for VLM proper on boxing day.

20/11/2012 at 13:40

You have probably been out now!! But reckon you could have a week of slower lower intensity and be fine with your speed. Just cut down to 30 to 40 miles per week for the 5 weeks up to Xmas and you will be fine! Let us know what you do....interested to see. What time you aiming at for VLM do you reckon?
I am starting out on the road to March 9th and my schedule is marathon pace Tuesday......xt Wednesday Thursday intervals, Friday easy run Sat Xt and Sunday long run........ with maximum mileage in week 13 of 35 miles.....bit lightweight for you guys but prefer to air on the cautious side to avoid injury, its worked this year all fit so far.........

20/11/2012 at 14:36

Choisty - strange you asking us slower lot for advice but here goes - for the marathon overall you need a combination of strength-speed-endurance training. Your 16 week plan will give you the speed and endurance so before starting the plan on boxing day i would do hills, hills then more hills plus some xc events and/or 5K park runs, all designed to give you strength plus of course lots of easy paced runs to build the base miles up to the starting mileage on your plan.  If you're feeling up to it then add in some gym type sessions for leg and core strengthening.

Hope this gives some food for thought.

20/11/2012 at 14:59

Hi all (from the comfort of a warm dry house ahhhhhhhhh! to reiki LOL).  What a lovely trip to the garage I had. 

FH - any thoughts on the Citreon DS3s - we quite fancy one of those next... (as a run around to back up the camper).

Choist - I would say pretty much as per the boys - 40 ish miles of as much strength work as you can muster - hills, hills and hills + some cycling + some gym work if you feel you need to be doing extra (I would add some glute work in to oscarr's recipe too if you can)



20/11/2012 at 15:10

Sleepy - just had a look (to be clear, I AM NOT ENTERING) at The Ridgeway challenge in august - 85 miles in a cut-off of a straight 28 hours - that's 3 miles per hour for 28 hours !!!!!!  The good thing is that it starts to make The Wall seem a lot easier - see the trick, eh, reverse psychology, scare the sh.t out of yourself and breath a sigh of relief that we are "only" doing 69 miles  

20/11/2012 at 15:12

I'm jealous of people's running...  with envy

New and used cars you say? Hummm now that's interesting. We were thinking about a Zafira at some point (we've only got one, but Mrs BoD likes to carry the kitchen sink around).

Seems that I've got issues in my back like Paris training. Got me a pounding booked for Thursday evening. Been having hot baths, stretching and let Mrs BoD hurt me, but to no avail

SB: still tempted by the offer. Oh and 30.02??? Go Ben. I did a 4.48 once, on my bike, down hill

20/11/2012 at 15:52

Dont like Citroens myself my OH had a couple prior to me and they were troublesome. We did have a couple of 2CVs which were fun and easy for me to work on. Think they are more reliable than they used to be.
Look after that back Craig......they can be very troublesome.
What training are SB and Oscar doing for the Wall then? Doubles at the weekend, when do they start?

20/11/2012 at 16:28

I'm absolutely chuffed to bits....

I just bagged a Garmin 310xt with the new HRM strap in the Amazon Black Friday deals - for £150.  It's for sale in other outlets (e.g Wiggle) for £230!!!  That's my Christmas present sorted.  I've been an expert bargain bagger this year, but this is the one I'm most happy with ('cos it's for me LOL)   

I'm off for a celebratory run now 

20/11/2012 at 16:33

Thanks for the thoughts on training while I was out.  I managed 8 x 1/2mile in 2:46 per rep in the rain, but felt very relaxed an smooth which is nice.

I learn from everyone about running and really appreciate all your collective wisdom.  I will definitiley be adding in a bunch of hills (reps and on long and easy runs), will add XC's to the mix toomight struggle to limit to 40 mpw and to go to a gym (far too warm and clean)

BoD go easy on your back, your gonna need it!

I like the idea of the ridgeway challenge, another squirreled away for when I step up to ultras

20/11/2012 at 17:06

oscarr - LOL - thank goodness - I'll be prepping for Cyprus then and I really must do Kielder in 2014.  Maybe in 2015 though hmmmmm now - need a 5 year diary .  Nothing scary 'bout the wall - we just have to run from food stop to food stop!

mcs - we have a Citreon just now - a Berlingo which we've had since 09 I think - it's fab for just chucking the bikes and dog cage in the back and the big hinged boot is fabulous in crap weather.  Have had many a stranger taking shelter at races!  It's been far more reliable than we were expecting too - hence why we're now quite happy to contemplate another.

Wall train officially starts 4th March but I'll be ramping up as soon as the new year starts as that programme you posted is way more than I'm currently doing - can't wait to get stuck in ...

Ten - good skills that man!  That truly is a bargain *tootles off for a little looky*

Choisty - Ben's been aqua jogging a lot lately - to help take the stress off his poorly calf - that might be worth a look as a x-training sesh sometime!  I mostly think winter is a good time to xtrain just so you are mentally fresh for big miles as much as anything.  Then when you officially start ramping up you're chomping at the bit! 


20/11/2012 at 17:41
AJ really does work, when I was doing no running at all I didn't lose anything at all which surprised me. Mind you I think I trained a lot harder and varied the sessions more.

I was thinking along the lines of what Oscarr said - XC, continuous hills, anything to do with building strength like the famed clams I'm doing now.

I'm so enthused after the weekend's scenic bimblings that I am going to do the SEAA Vets on 8 December after all.

Nice bargain Ten. I am buying nothing more, I need my entire income for treatments!

Mcs I google everything and have fixed things and replaced things I'd never dreamed of, setting up all sorts of equipment without too much panic.

I don't mess with electricity is the only thing.
20/11/2012 at 17:43

MCS, Not at the moment, but you are on my radar.

Choisty, argee with all the above, I did it last year and the only other running I did was  a longer run, but never more than 8 miles at a quickish pace, for me that was 30 seconds quick than marathon pace.

SB, have a look at the new Vauxhall Adam, it is really cute, not out until March but you can order them.

Bo, happy to help anyone on here save money on cars, just let me know if I can help.

Ten, thats a great deal, I did one the other weekend on a Silve Headtorch (550 Lumens), £180 at Sweatshop I paid £115 online for it!!   I would recommend this headtorch, brighter than daylight!




20/11/2012 at 17:49

Ten, that is a bargain, I have a 405 and a 610 would a 310xt be too much???

SB like the idea of starting chomping on the bit, trouble is I aready raring to go and I've only been back in the hutch for 1:45 since my last run, is another run now too soon?

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