Auviour Paris: So long and thanks for the cobbles

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23/04/2013 at 22:23

Thanks for the advice mcs, I might look that one up too. 

Emma, I understand that if your legs pack in before your heart () you've still not hit the maximum, but will check that one. Sure SB will be able to offer further detail. 

Went to the club tonight and the same guy who was anti PR last night is also the chair there. I did realise that when I joined... How to win friends and all that. Did a 1.5 mile TT and came in at 10:51, which was much quicker than I expected. Could have helped that I got overtaken by the superfit guys from work... Proper lung buster that. Going to take tomorrow off and rearrage plan for this week. 

23/04/2013 at 23:01

I simply couldn't run any harder and did it four times!  Everything bloomin hurt to be honest and 179 seems to be agreeing with the other formulas so I'll take that for time being. My HR is usually very low as is bp on about 90/60 or lower! No wonder I am so dizzy!

That sounds rapid Mr D - take it easy after your injury.

Swim training tomorrow evening

Edited: 23/04/2013 at 23:01
24/04/2013 at 07:55

If you didn't go above 179 after 4 tries Em - it sounds like a good place to start.  Once in a while wear your chest strap when you race and then check again.  Everyone's max is different so don't worry when you hear tales of people who have higher or lower ones.

Easy day on the bike for me

24/04/2013 at 10:41

I go away for a day or so and look what happens - the world has gone HR mad and super stato !! 

Flicked through what i missed so apologies if this has been answered but what is WHR?  Also, what are folks using resting HR for ?

Off to see the grand daughter in west Wales today for a few days which means back to Prembrokeshire hill training for me.

24/04/2013 at 22:12
Sorry Oscarr- I'm a scientist so all these numbers please me! WHR is working heart rate and the resting rate was used in one of the heart rate zones thing that I found that worked out working heart rate and zones
24/04/2013 at 22:12
Enjoy the hills - I'm rubbish at them!
25/04/2013 at 18:26
More numbers please! Cycling day is Friday Great Longstone to Clay Cross via Chatsworth Park and Beeley Hill, Beeley Moor and Alton. 18 miles should be fit for no for work when I get there! on my feet all day then cycle home and start decorating......good to see BO and Em back in the trainers again. All the best to the Ultra Trainers....
25/04/2013 at 21:29
Thanks for the encouragement mcs! That sounds like a lot of cycling ... Tired just reading about it!
26/04/2013 at 09:06

Well, I've been to the gym and done a load of core work again this morning. Good lord it's dull. And there are far too many people checking themselves out in the mirror. On the upside, I'm starting to feel stronger in middle and legs. And cable machines are really good for dynamic moves (woodchoppers r' us).

Sent a begging letter to Dyslexia Research for a golden ballot at VLM... Gonna be interesting.

mcs: thanks mate, for too long the trainers were gathering dust. Oh, Chatsworth, nice...

26/04/2013 at 18:03

At last I have managed to put together a marathon report:

I was lucky enough based on my Paris time to be in the British championship start at London. This afforded several luxuries; ample toilets with no queues, changing facilities with drinks to hand, a view of the elite wheelchair races warming up, time and space to think, but best of all chance to meet up with friends,that I hadn't seen in months.

With all the preparation complete, over 1,200 miles since Boxing Day, no alcohol for a month and no caffeine for a week, I stood on the start line as ready as I could possibly be.

It is a shame nobody mentioned this to the weather it was pleasant at the start which quickly translated into too hot once we were underway. The first half went to plan, possibly 30s too quick, but I allowed myself that over 13.1 miles. By 16 the heat was working against me and whilst I had only slowed by 9s a mile and was still on plan, I was coming to realise it was going to be a tall order for the pace to stay high. Within two miles my stride was failing with a lower knee lift and shorter length, but the pace was OK slowing to 6:25, more worrying was the pain in my psoas' and stomach. At 22 this pain had slowed my pace enough to make me stop and deal with it, meaning I lost about a minute (much more if you include the slow miles that preceded it). The treatment was successful as immediately my pace returned to plan running 6min/mile through 23. Then both calves started cramping and in the next two miles I lost a further 3 minutes stopping to stretch them out during which time I contemplated how the spring had arrived too early after months of cursing what seemed like an eternal winter. My calves held up for a final hurrah in the last mile covering it in 5:56 (only 7s slower than the runner-up, Emanuel Mutai). To finish in 2:48:06, outside my PB but hugely enjoyable day, just never again (well in London anyway).  The crowds were amazing when I stopped to stretch they screamed at me to carry on, something that I will never forget.  It was if London was making a statement to terrorists, we will not be intimidated.

After the race it was amazing to to see the same guys that were at the start this time with stories to tell especially Sean my training partner on his dream debut, running 2:36.

There was wonderful support all the way round from my family, club, and the asics crew that helped me through some of the tough times, thank you.

Being a nutter we went to see Matilda at the Cambridge theatre immediately afterward, which shows Mrs. C's faith in my speed! I thoroughly recommend it, just possibly not after a marathon!

26/04/2013 at 18:39

Nice one Choisty - I had no idea from the stats that you were struggling in the second half, and 1200 miles! How did you fit all that in - I think I managed almost exctly half that...... 

27/04/2013 at 11:11

Good write up Choisty! Was good to see you the day before too, sorry about having consumed a couple of pints though... You had to look of a man possessed.

Oh, and my Garmin is showing 26:14 for my Park run this morning... Knocked just under two minutes off my PR PB. I'm happy with that, but schoolboy error left me having to do both laces up... 

27/04/2013 at 11:42

5:56 in the final mile?  Jeez! If I ran that pace, it would probably be my final mile ever . Great report Choisty. I'm not sure whether I take comfort in the fact that someone at your level experiences the same issues as someone at mine  

BoD - good to see you back at it. It must have been some time, as you've clearly forgotten the basics, like tying up shoelaces .  VLM ballot is on Monday 

Are you guys receiving email notifications from RW?  Mine have stopped completely, even though I haven't changed any settings.  Maybe they're not happy with me blocking their crappy slow adverts.

Yesterday I ran 6m recovery, and tomorrow I'm up to 7m.  It's beginning to feel like normality being resumed. I'm being patient and following the P&D recovery mesocycle. I'm going to extend the recovery period until I'm up to 40m per week before starting the serious speedwork.

27/04/2013 at 12:27

Choisty , great report thanks. Just shows once again that the marathon is not just a race but an experience. Well done for sorting out your problems en route and that last mile of yours will live in your memory for a long,long time.

bo , you have a 5k time on the board now so something to target beating now, great and well done. Slow build up still needed though to prevent injury.

i am having a good cutback week and really needed it after three very hard weeks. Felt exhausted for most of the week. Gentle 15 miler this afternoon but will see how I feel tomorrow morning before I do a planned 12 miler which I may not do if still tired. Another very heavy week next week.

Sleepy - good luck with the Walk for All on Sunday - weather Should be good so have a great time. Look forward to hearing all about it.


27/04/2013 at 14:39

Hi all 

No notifications and a mad week have led to an unplanned absence from me. 

The week has so far involved waves of exhaustion and seized up glutes, well that was pretty much the story on Monday and Tuesday, when all I did was walk and have a massage.

Did 45 mins Aqua Jog on the way to work Wednesday, a Pilates class Thursday morning, and yesterday just over 6 miles on the AlterG, which was very fun. 

Am pondering a slow run tomorrow morning.

Having the Watford 10K on Monday week, and the Sheffield half on Sunday 12th, I am open to suggestions as to how to play this.  

Bizarrely the knee that gave me so much worry last week seems to be OK now, although I know I won't appreciate the true VLM legacy until things settle fully.

Marvellous report Choisty, wierd that you also had 2 miles of cramp. Your take on it is spot on.

I am in deep shock just now as I was just having a pee in my downstairs loo when I spotted a small item on the floor which was blinking and trying to look small - a mouse OMG!  So I looked up mouse in house to learn that they can chew wires and cause fires.

Yowsers. So I have rolled up two towels - one is blocking the gap at the bottom of the door to that loo, the other is doing the same for the living room door where most wires are.  

I think it could only have got in through a small hole [gap around the output from loo pipe] directly from outside, could be wrong though.

Any suggestions?  I can call the council until 4, they say they will come round 3 times and charge me £110.40.  

Enjoy your runs and walks everyone.


Edited: 27/04/2013 at 14:40
27/04/2013 at 15:30

He's out, phew, glad I decided to have a go!

27/04/2013 at 17:54

A rather wishy-washy week with more cycling than running seems to have rested my bones and eased my I went for a parkrun.

It seemed like mid-winter again but managed to get round in 20:54 so pleaed with that 11 days after my marathon.

I may venture onto the track next week and start in the slow group to ease myself back in to it all.......

Good luck to any racers tomorrow.....

28/04/2013 at 14:21

Went out for a run and lots of walk along the canal this morning, the run portion was 6.35 in 1:09, walked from there as calf began pulling again.

Nice PR Mike! 

28/04/2013 at 15:04

Another recovery week completed.  7m this morning - sunny and chilly.  It took double discipline to stick to pace, and to turn around to head home when I was having so much fun   Oh well, at least next week includes some faster running.  Slowly slowly catchy monkey.

28/04/2013 at 17:32

I did 8 this morning @9:30 pace. Legs felt like lead after yesterday. Got an easy week planned next week, so just thinking about a few 5 milers and no major efforts. 

Gona be up and looking at VLM's website tomorrow morning like a crazy person. I got a response from Dyslexia people and they are going to give me a GB on the proviso that I manage to enter the ballot too... Going to be fun. 

RR careful with that calf... 

Mike, I'd be happy with that period. 

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