Cobbles & Red Wine - Sarah’s Paris Marathon Plan: Sub 3:35

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10/01/2013 at 10:18

Morning Tigger!

Hee hee!! I thought I’d see if I could get you to wear out your keyboard R keys You realise it’s getting to the point where I think of you all as your RW forum names not your real names any more ...!

Am I right in thinking you’ve got a 20 miler coming up? How’s the training going?

10/01/2013 at 10:18

Morning Ady!

I haven’t actually tried a build up run in the daylight yet ... might be an interesting comparison to my usual ones running around industrial estates in the dark! I do find the pacing a bit more awkward at night though as have to keep putting the light on on the Garmin to check I’m doing the right speed ...! Do you find much difference?

I think we went a bit overboard at Christmas ... the entire top shelf of the fridge is still completely full up with chocolate and I’m eating Xmas tree shaped pretzels ... and I don’t even LIKE pretzels!!

10/01/2013 at 10:28
RunnyRunRun wrote (see)

it doesn’t matter HOW far you push the seat back you always end up banging your elbow on the door and knocking the gearstick with your knee!

Sorry, but that quote was just begging to be taken out of context 


10/01/2013 at 11:23
Hi RRR, yes treadmill seems crazy- no wonder I wasn't that commited- I'm now a firm believer of there's no such thing as bad weather for running, only bad clothing... That being said bad weather cancelled 3 of my planned races in 2012
I was kinda transitioning from being a rower, where the gym (rowing machine) often gave u a better workout than a wobbly boat!

The Halstead and Essex marathon #4 in top British marathons according to runners world is on May 12th- you tempted? They apparently hand u ur own drinks t the aid stations like ur an elite
10/01/2013 at 11:28

Had a dark, flipping freezing minus two run 6.7 mile run to work through the Monsal Head Tunnel brilliant emerging from the tunnel to the light and the frost everywhere. Kept the pace down apart from one mile to 7.50mm and an 8.09. So cold though when I got to work, thank goodness for a hot shower!! Reminded me of school cross country with frozen hands even with gloves on and we didn't have gloves at school...... Hows it going down your neck of the woods?

10/01/2013 at 11:31

Stilton oh lovely one of my favs with a cheese rice cake and butter for supper cant beat it!!!

10/01/2013 at 12:39

Come on Sarah - you know you want to!!! I was going to do both if you hadn't stolen my place in Paris!

It's a brilliant event - not too many people but plenty to keep you company all the way around. And as Angela says they hand you your own personal drink! Lovely countryside course to boot! I've done it the last two years and intend to for many years to come even if it's not to run flat out.

If you turn up for that I promise to wear the pink fluorescent compression socks! I think Tony'sonthebeach is thinking about it as well! The Halstead marathon, not the socks!!!

10/01/2013 at 13:14

Afternoon Tenjiso!

Tenjiso wrote (see)
RunnyRunRun wrote (see)

it doesn’t matter HOW far you push the seat back you always end up banging your elbow on the door and knocking the gearstick with your knee!

Sorry, but that quote was just begging to be taken out of context 



Yes... I did leave myself open to that comment really, didn’t I!

10/01/2013 at 13:15

Afternoon Angela!

Wow! I know 2012 was a bit crazy weather –wise but how disappointing! Which ones did you miss?

Hand you your own drinks? I hope I wouldn’t have to identify my own ... my brain stops working after a few miles and I’m quite capable of accidentally grabbing someone elses and wondering why my bottle has changed colour ...

10/01/2013 at 13:15

Afternoon MCS!

I’ve googled the Monsal Head Tunnel – wow!! What a gorgeous part of the country you live in!! What was it like running through that tunnel - how long does it take?!

It’s been very misty here the last couple of days ... Feel like I’m about to be part of some sort of low-budget horror film! Wooo-ooo-oooo!  ... So long as it’s not a film about a runner getting mugged for her head torch!!

10/01/2013 at 13:16

Afternoon DS2!

Halstead marathon DOES sound nice ... ! Is it all road? I’d quite like to have a bash at a trail marathon at some point ... although I was thinking about leaving more than 6 weeks between marathons!

What? Can’t you persuade Tony’sOnTheBeach? I think matching His and His socks would look adorable ...

I’m not sure what time of the year it is but I like the look of the Endurance Life coastal path runs ... the half marathon looks really, really good! I loved running the coastal paths in Cornwall earlier in the year. 

What other races have you got coming up?

10/01/2013 at 13:17

Week 4, Day 3

Goal: 8 miles at 8:30 – 9 min/miles

Actual: 8 miles at 8:27 min/mile (I would have been bang on target if I hadn’t remembered the chocolate coins in the fridge on the last mile and sped up too much)

This one was to be another night run and it was very cold and misty so I wrapped up well. It was a bit of a gloomy night so I took my headphones and decided I’d listen to an audiobook and enjoy this run as it was a nice steady session.

I had been listening to Woman in Black but I hadn't felt a ghost story based in mist would be very appropriate to a misty run. Some dog walker would materialise out of the fog and be treated to the sight of me simultaneously soiling my Lycra and falling into a hedge in terror. It probably wouldn’t be terribly good practise for pace control and how would I explain to Asics why I needed new running tights?

I decided on Michael McIntyre’s audiobook and it kept me entertained the whole way round. The only problem was that because I was doing loops I was passing the same people ... they must have thought they were being circled by a lunatic as every now and then I’d materialise out of the mist grinning like a pumpkin (at the audiobook) and then vanish again ... leaving only the fading sound of running footsteps and an occasional snort of laughter.

I did my usual 4 mile loop twice to make up the distance so I didn’t really have to think about the route and could just enjoy the run. I didn't bother with a headtorch as I’d left my usual – and favourite - one in Dorset so I would have had to rely on my 2nd best one which has a tendency to flicker and fall down and bump on the nose. OK in a pinch but not really worth the nose blisters for a run on street lit pavements.

Garmin Info Here



Time: 1:07:34.

Distance: 8.00

Average Pace: 8:27

I felt that my pacing wasn’t too terrible except I got a bit carried away on one of the good downhills at mile 3 and at mile 8 I got a bit excited at the thought of the chocolate coins waiting for me in the fridge and sped up a bit too much which took the pace average a bit higher than I wanted. But overall only .03 min/mile outside the time range ...! Woo!


Mile1  8:40 

Mile 2  8:40 

Mile 3  8:16 

Mile 4  8:25 

Mile 5  8:32 

Mile 6  8:25 

Mile 7  8:23 

Mile 8  8:09 

10/01/2013 at 13:22

There was one in Norwich that I just couldn't find... it was a really icy day, and I was borrowing my dad's car for the first time in ages... There was no wiper fluid, and the muddy ice kept getting splashed only my windscreen, so i kept having to stop the car to clean it off

Then I went to to the New Forest 10... This was cancelled due to flooding, but it wasn't all bad, my boyf and I went out for a fancy dinner instead, and he drank a bit much and hit his head, and ended up proposing to me though I made him do it properly later 

Then NYC marathon - Hurricane Sandy.  You wont believe how annoyed I was by that- at least they are now refunding the race entry fee, but wow, I was so anxious about this one even before the race was cancelled- would have had to be at the start for 3 hours before starting the race, and with no baggage option- seems a bit rich for a £300 entry fee!!!

Dunno how the own drinks thing works, as I've not done it before- maybe DS2 can explain!  Perhaps the marshals look out for your race number 

10/01/2013 at 13:35

New trainers worn last night - Brooks Ghost with Gortex - so actually looking forward to wet weather in order to check out the footwear. 8 miles mid week after work was a shock to the system and at mile 6 my stomach started telling me how long it had been since lunchtime.

Is anyone else eating more than they used to? I'm like a human hoover!

Edited: 10/01/2013 at 13:36
10/01/2013 at 13:42

RRR - since Angela is doing Halstead I may as well assume that it won't go ahead and book somewhere else!!!! Some people have no luck

Tenjiso - that did make me laugh

As for the drinks at Halstead. You can take up to 3 of your own and you put them in containers to be taken to the drink stations you want to collect them from. You write your number on the bottle and as you approach the stations a marshall 100 yards or so before will ask if you want to collect a drink. he/she then shouts out to the people manning the station your number and by the time you arrive they are standing in the road holding it out for you. I tape a gel to each of them as well so it saves me having to carry those as well. Works like clockwork!!!

10/01/2013 at 16:24

Nearly time to get cold again, boy its freezing out there.......

 Run over this viaduct to work...........


Edited: 10/01/2013 at 16:26
10/01/2013 at 19:00

Hey RRR! How are you RRR? Sounds like your having great fun RRR!  What have you done today RRR?

Haha sorry couldn't resist!!!

Things are bouncing away nicely thanks! My 20 mile race isn't until 17th March, I have a mish mash of a training plan, from My Asics. Clearly left it too late so as far as my training plan is concerned I am doing a marathon on the 31st March.... when really I'm thinking of my first tri on that date.... but shush don't say anything

I'm really enjoying reading your tread by the way especially the food bit! I have a thing for pink grapefruit at the minute! in the evening when your bored, thinking you WANT to eat rather than NEED to eat! I cut it in half and eat all the flesh not the skin as its bitter!! takes me a good 45 mins spooning it, out by that time can't be bothered to eat anything!!!

And as I know your rather fond of your cheese.... if you grate your allocated amount on the small holes looks like you have twice as much!!

On that note I'm off to make chilli!!

10/01/2013 at 19:18

oo and forgot to ask..... I may have missed it earlier... but which half marathon are you doing?

10/01/2013 at 20:59

Thats what I was just about to ask tigger!

Sarah/RRR can you run on ice cream?

I slice fresh banana up...its quite yummy, well I think so. Have you tried a little bit of honey in your porridge instead of sugar? Thats really nice and probably a little better for you (I think)!

Haha, you getting told off for running at MP made me feel just itching to go faster, did my speed session last night and loved it, have really missed the quicker pace, and it had only been a week!



Edited: 10/01/2013 at 21:00
10/01/2013 at 21:05
Runningforchocolate wrote (see)

Ruth you obviously aren't aware of Sarah's stomach post bread.... it ain't pretty....Please I beg you dont tell her to eat bread - i do have to share a bathroom with her at our parent's house form time to time...... 


RunnyRunRun wrote (see)

Evening Ruth Mckean!

Thanks for the feedback – this looks really, really helpful! Cornflakes tend to be a bit of a special treat. They don’t really fill me up (I’m always ravenous by lunchtime!) so I treat them as a bit of a ‘special occasion’ food. Nice to have but probably not the best option!

I definitely have a weakness for Stilton and cottage cheese but the other types of cheese are again ‘special occasion food’ so hopefully these won’t be too much of a problem. I rarely have sauces on my food except I eat a lot of cottage cheese with my fish and veg … I wouldn’t like to cut this out but would if it’s absolutely necessary.

I tend to eat mainly whole food (except at other people’s houses) and it tends to be a lot of veg and fish … I have a horrible suspicion you may ask me at some point to cut down on the amount of fish I eat … I'd have it with every meal if I could ...

I tend to get most of my carbs from the veg I eat. I can’t eat bread and I’m not much of a fan of rice, pasta or potatoes. Would sweet potatoes be ok?

I tend to be ok to run straight after eating so long as I’m not having to run too quickly (thanks to having to take a beginner friend out on runs straight after tea – it’s come in quite handy!) but I wasn’t sure what was the best option. I’ll make sure I keep the snacks light and low-fat. I hadn’t considered things in a tomato-based sauce but I’ll give that a try!

I’m back at home now so my food-diary should be a bit more typical. I tend to eat a lot of the same things … so I have a horrible suspicion I will be told to branch out a bit!

Sorry missed the post on bread - thank you RRR sister.

RRR cottage cheese I have no issue with. Lots of fish is fine but a few times a week is enough for health as some would argue that eating too much fish from our not so clean sea is not good but up to 3 -4 times would be fine. A couple of tins of tuna per week for women of child bearing age is recommended (especially if pregnant or feeding) due to possible mercury levels in these fish but this advice may be over cautious... so variety is always best. Too much of anything is probably bad for you (now I really sound like a dietitian!)

Sweet potato is a great choice so add to lunches and evening meals when can. Also would you eat cous cous (different texture from pasta?) or quinoa to your lunch/evening meals?

I would also focus on handing out some of that chocolate to friends!  

Do you not get really hungry in the afternoon with lunches as they are?


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