Well done Pip on your place.
Well done to Jane, Gary and all if you've managed to get out in the snow / cold / wind.
Gary - in the cold, you won't need much water so a powerade should be sufficient. 3:30 is a good long time out, but unless you are pushing at marathon pace, one or 2 gels probably enough. You are probably tired from the half - still a tough event, especially at race pace.
I also live high up and in Scotland, so lots of snow and big drifts. Much easier the last 3 days with lower winds. Did a 20 miler on Sunday which felt tough though. Hill session last night with club which felt great! Circuit training this afternoon (for primary school). Going to tempt fate by taking them on a run around the playing field to finish (in the snow). 28 miler planned for tomorrow (2 x 14 miles to and from work). Final long run before tapering to the 9th April North Pole Marathon.
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Im sure it was the half marathon that scuppered your long run!! I took a gel at 10 and another at 15 for my 20 miler and it felt okay! But i suppose everyone is different.
I would only have 2 or possibly 3 gels on a training 20 miler.
My physio says that I can try a 1 mile run tomorrow so fingers crossed my leg is ok. Hopefully I can pick up the training again next week and catch up on my lost 2.5 weeks.
I just booked my train tickets from London to Edinburgh. The train up was ok, it let me book a seat but the train back wouldnt let me book, so I can imagine it will be chaos. On a positive note, I am not restricted by a certain train so I can just get on the first one back.. and probably have sit in the toilet!
Very much looking forward to running again. 2 weeks off has been awful.
Gaz, dont worry about the long run you didnt give yourself enough time to recover from the half mara.
Took me a week to recover properly from Stafford half a few weeks ago.
Keep it up it will be worth it ....trust me
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me? I'm not a London marathon runner any more thanks to that dog knocking me off my bike.
10 min run done today. I can move up to 30 mins on Sat. Not that many weeks ago, I was cruising at 20. Frustration...
Hi guys and gals
Just thought I'd stick my tenpenneth in. (Im 52 and never run a marathon before)
Planning to run my first 20 miler on sunday in training for Edinburgh and the sound of it scares me to death.
Already done 16, 17 and 18s - okish - but didnt believe I had too much left in the tank. Running them at 8.45ish pace when my aim is to break 4hrs. Maybe I should slow it down by 10 seconds a mile. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Now upping distance to 20 just seems taking it to a new level. Someone told me I should be aiming to do three 20 milers in the run-up to the big one. Does everyone agree or should I be thinking of doing a couple of 20s plus a 21 or 22.
Cheers, best of luck everyone
Roger I think that you really need to slow it down. My plan has long runs at between 30secs and 1 min slower per mile. If you want to break 4 hrs, you need to run at about 9mm pace? Well your long runs should be no faster than 9m30 if you ask me. If you run them all at race pace, you wont recover in time. Your shorter runs should be faster, longer ones slower.
My plan has 4x 20 milers but they are each 2 weeks apart (I cant do that any longer as I've been injured... long story)
Personally, I wouldn't train over 20 miles.
On transport - though the advertised bus stops are about 1 mile from the finish, back out on Pinkie Road (straight on through the astro football pitch, two minutes walk) you can pick up a 26 back to the city centre. They're every 20 minutes and it'll cost you £1.50. This is what I did after the half marathon last year.
Good luck to you all for the big day. I'm not ready for marathons quite yet but a couple of people mentioned the Rock 'n' Roll as part of training; I'm booked in for this, so I might see you there!
You are getting plenty of sold training in there Roger. Well done. Getting a run or two over 20 miles is useful, even just to know you can do it. Maximum of 22-23 miles is generally suggested.
Gary - I've been using the Kayano for many years now. Excellent shoe, but expensive!
I did my 28 last Thursday, then a 24 mile ski tour yesterday (11 hours on skis in the Cairngorms). Now taking it easy this week before next week's marathon.
Wohlf - Rock n' Roll should be good. I did it last year and was impressed. A tough course with several hills but great atmosphere and scenic route. Edinburgh marathon route is flatter but rather tedious by comparison.
If anyone want to join me around Edinburgh for some long training runs let me know. I've lost my running buddy (his marathon is this weekend in Paris) so looking for a fellow marathon trainee for my 16-20 milers.
I'm aiming for 4hr30 but probably going to be hitting the under 5hours marker. Did a 26k run this weekend in 2hr50 to give you an idea of my speed. Its my first marathon so my priority is finishing injury free.
Let me know if you're in need of a training companion.
Thanks ever so much for the advice PipG and Hillheader.
I managed 21 miles on Sunday in 8.52 pace which really pleased me. I tried running it at nearer 9 mins a mile but found it a struggle to keep my discipline to that pace. I recovered a lot quicker than when I ran 18 a couple of weeks earlier, which didn't make much sense. I think I could have actually run 26 there and then, hope that doesn't sound arrogant because it's not meant to and hope to goodness I havent peaked too soon which I'm now starting to worry about.
Running Blackpool half this sunday - my first competitive race - since i came last but one in my secondary school cross country aged 14. I'm running it with a pal and we are aiming for around 1hr 50.
Just one question if I run it hard over 13 which for me is around 8.20- 8.30 pace - could it be to the detriment of my marathon training and do more harm than good?
Hope everyone is staying injury free now the going is getting tough.
I'm new to this forum and after some advice please. Edinburgh will be my first marathon - I'm excited but nervous!
I'm struggling to know what pace to aim for; currently my runs fluctuate anything between a 8:45 mile average to 10:00+ mile average depending on what kind of running day I'm having. My last couple of half marathon races have been around the 2 hour mark.
I'm not aiming for any specific time, just to finish! But I'm concious I don't want to start out too fast. I have a Garmin to help monitor my pacing.
Any advice greatly appreciated, thank you!
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