FLM 09 - 3.45ers! - Page 28 - Spring Marathon

Velociraptor

03/11/2006 at 11:21

LS, you are way too fast for us and you are going to post a stonking great Thread PB after the Glen Clova half. Now, please don't do anything to sabotage it!

You're already running faster in training than most of us run when we race :o) You richly deserve that FLM place.

Howard the Chief Assistant Cheerleader

03/11/2006 at 13:46

A lot of talk of very high mileage here. I've never run more than 35 in a week although I plan to do more this time. I'm at 27.5 for this week and am planning a 14 miler on Sunday.

The Ripped Dap justgiving.com/garethjjones

03/11/2006 at 14:11

LS, you are going to blitz sub 3.45 in April.

I am excited for you. 1.39 for 13.1 in training!!!!!

Little Stoker

03/11/2006 at 14:52

Ms Raptor,thank you for your kind words.
I am now, through reading this forum, making sure I glug down enough water after a run, to dilute the colour of my "stream". Also, I ensure I have the 3 or 4 Weetabix with skimmed milk, shortly after getting in. Will need to continue swotting up on "glycogen depletion", carb loading etc. (Are Weetabix OK for that ? I also have 2 slices of jam on toast with the coffee.)
My approach up to this point has been a bit "Tough of the Track". i.e. Non scientific, just see how far and fast I can go. Read some stuff this morning on the difference between OK carb loading, and perfect carb loading, leading up to a race.. It was on a website for that Pfitzenschalingerger fella, and described how minute differences impact on your time.

Velly intelesting

Little Stoker

03/11/2006 at 16:08

HRR, is it necessary at this point to be doing the high mileage for an April run?
With my 3 days of 5/6, 8.6, then 13.1, I'm only at about 27 miles a week just now. It will grow, but I'd hate to bust a gasket by over doing it now. I plan on learning more about the science part of nutrition, hydration, speedwork, VO2 max( which I thought was a fizzy drink), etc.etc, whilst gently increasing the long run. Then I'll find a 16 week schedule, and know that what I'm doing is correct in every way.

Mr Dap, I feel confident at the Half, but don't know what the pits of hell of a full 26.2 feels like ! Can I borrow your mental strength that weekend ?

The snow is on the hills overlooking Glen Clova today. How hard is it to run wearing a duffel coat and wellies ?

Gymbo, how many press ups can you do ?

Howard the Chief Assistant Cheerleader

03/11/2006 at 16:47

LS if you're running 27 miles a week at this stage you are doing fine (I'm at exactly the same point myself). I would be slightly wary of some of the 16 week schedules which will get you to the right level by race day but only just. They have no slack whatsoever for injuries or anything else stopping you running. Have a look at some schedules now and maybe think about starting on Dec 1st rather than Jan 1st. If you don't get injured then you have four weeks extra training under your belt which might give you that liitle bit more confidence on race day. The counter argument is that your added training might leave you more vulnerable to injuries. Just thought I'd throw my tuppence halfpenny worth in!

The Ripped Dap justgiving.com/garethjjones

03/11/2006 at 18:21

LS, I can run with Wellies and a duffel coat on. They teach us how to do that in school down here ;0)

Velociraptor

03/11/2006 at 19:38

LS, Weetabix with milk is fantastic carb-loading food and also ideal for recovery. Beats all that powdery stuff that comes in big plastic tubs bearing huge lists of vitamin-this and coenzyme-that and a hefty price tag. And it's obviously working for you!

I'm just in from a nice 10-miler (maintenance mileage for me and a "slow" recovery run for eL Bee! - personally, I think calling 8.51mm pace "slow" is just gamesmanship!) and refuelled on sticky toffee pudding and vanilla yogurt. Loads of carbs, a dollop of protein ... perfect! And it means that I don't have to worry about whether or not I'll have room for pudding after dinner ;o)

The 16-week schedules will do the job - I did Abingdon on less than 16 weeks' training from a standing start, and most of my training was aimed at a half-marathon with the full marathon being an afterthought. But if you can approach the schedules with a running jump rather than a standing start, so much the better. I looked at the P&D 24-week schedules, but decided that I'd spend the next few weeks simply building mileage and pick up the 18-week schedules instead. They start of with, I think, a 53-mile week and a 15-mile long run. I'd like a base of having already done that sort of mileage for a few weeks beforehand.

I've read the article in the current RW about how the Kenyans carb-unload before winning marathons. Interesting!

Mick The Mackem

03/11/2006 at 19:55

Evening Commrades

Just found out today that my cheque was chashed on Tuesday.I didnt donate,so im assuming im in.This was my 4th attempt.

So ladies and gentlemen,would it be ok with you all to join this thread?? Ive just ran Abingdon(4hrs03mins) and would like to go for 3hr45mins FLM.London will be my 5th marathon.(3hr58mins pb)

Cheers.

Little Stoker

03/11/2006 at 20:07

Evening Mick.
How old,tall,heavy,henpecked,bald are you ?
I'm 37,6ft,13stone,very,very nearly.
You can join only if you adopt the once mighty Dundee Football Club as your Scottish team.
Let us know what stage your running is at the moment, and whether on your PB run you had to sprint all floppy jelly like, the last few miles to get in under 4 hours?
If the thread inspires you the way it has me, then we'll both smash the 3:45 barrier no problem.

Welcome aboard

Mick The Mackem

03/11/2006 at 20:14

Hello mate
40 years old,5ft 10ins,12 stone,still a wee bit of hair,our lass is spot on.
Sorry mate the GERS have taken my support,as well as Sunderland(season tkt holder).
Just taken a 2 week rest after the Abingdon marathon,back to marathon training on Sunday.
Thanks for the welcome mate.

Velociraptor

03/11/2006 at 20:51

Oh, sh1t! My Scottish team is Kilmarnock. Shall I get my coat?

;o)

Velociraptor

03/11/2006 at 22:03

Welcome, Mick :o) Well done at Abingdon! And congratulations on getting a FLM place.

Little Stoker

03/11/2006 at 22:08

But you've been to Lochee !!??!

You've stood on The Law and gazed down at the centre of the Universe !

You've driven over the bridge from Fife and been awe struck at the panorama stretched out before you!

You've swam in the "juice" of a Wallace's peh.

I don't know for sure, but you may have even witnessed the rock of gibraltar himself, Sir Bobby Glennie, smash in a 40 yarder v Aberdeen wearing the famous tram lines jersey of the late 70's, copied by Coventry.

You've read the works of Oor Wullie.

Your neighbours were the Broons.

Och, Ms Raptor, I despair !!

Mick The Mackem

04/11/2006 at 10:23

Little stoker
Ive been to both grounds in Dundee-in fact quite a few grounds in Scotland.I worked at rosyth dockyard from 85-92.All in a drunken haze if memory serves me right.Didnt like going to Hibs ground,too much trouble in those days.Went back a couple of years ago to watch Sunderland play hibs in pre season friendly.We drew 2-2.Had a good day on the drink.

Velociraptor

04/11/2006 at 12:47

OK, LS, I'll 'fess up. When I was in Dundee, and coming from the West of Scotland, and being from a good Presbyterian family, I capitulated to the family expectation that I would pledge my allegiance to the orangemen ;o)

The Ripped Dap justgiving.com/garethjjones

04/11/2006 at 12:48

Hi Mick!

Welcome aboard. Another footy fan :) Always nice to speak to a black cat. You must adopt Swansea as your Welsh team! We not too keen on Cardiff either!!!

You and I are exactly the same standard running wise by the way.

My Scot's team is Queen Of the South, not sure why, never seen them play, just one of those names that stuck with on a Saturday evening as a kid watching the results come through on Grandstand.

The Ripped Dap justgiving.com/garethjjones

04/11/2006 at 12:50

LS, I stayed in the Tay Side Hotel on my last visit to Dundee. Its a bit, how can I say, exotic?

Cracking people up there!!

Little Stoker

04/11/2006 at 16:40

Bellbottoms!??
Swansea!?!!?
No such hotel as the tayside? Think back.
Rosyth....Scotlands very own Monte Carlo. Not a single overweight or ugly person is allowed in the town. No tattoos, no swearing, no gambling, no under age sex, no unemployment, women are treated as equals.. etc etc
Choosing a football team according to religion?! Must be a West coast thing.
Mick, you no doubt stood on the old TC Keay terracing behind the goal. I played on Dens Park as a 10 year old before Jocky Scotts testimonial, with a drunken George Best in a booth behind the goal signing autographs.
Mick, at least you got a proper pint, unlike the soapy bubbles that was the bitter I couldn't swallow when I went to live in Bristol in 1990.
RD, why were you in Paradise, or do all Welsh schoolkids get the trip as motivation to stick in at their exams ?! Ha Ha, only kidding.

The Ripped Dap justgiving.com/garethjjones

05/11/2006 at 12:25

LOL!

I am sure it was the Tay Side Hotel.

Anyway, back to running!

Just did 14 miles nice and slow. Everything fine, no tweaks. Letting the body know that come Monday we start some proper training.

How everyone else doing today? Is anybody racing?