London Marathon Good For Age

is it or not???

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29/04/2013 at 17:33

@runnerman until after the run they had last years times on display. This us the issue, they can, and will need to change times according to need. However, there was nothing posted on their official website until after the race. The issue for me and many others is we structured our run accordingly... If they gave notice (as with other majors) then at least we would know what to aim for!

29/04/2013 at 17:36
seren nos wrote (see)

a a small group of under 40 women who have to get 5 mins faster than the over 40's now....

You've missed the point of the problem - it's not that they've changed the GFA times, it's that they've changed them without enough notice for anyone who's now missed out to re-qualify. GFA applications are due in July, and the bulk of the spring marathons are over. Even if you are lucky enough to have a marathon booked between now and then, there's no real time to change your training and go for the new, faster time. And if conditions happen to be unfavourable (like Ediburgh's 30+ degree freak heatwave last year) then you're SOL, even though up until last week VLM's own staff were telling people who rang up that the 2013 GFA times were definitely NOT changing.

No one is saying they should've change their GFA qualifications - they're saying they need to be done with ample notice.

29/04/2013 at 17:46

Well said squirrell

seren nos    pirate
29/04/2013 at 17:50
squirrellypoo wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)

a a small group of under 40 women who have to get 5 mins faster than the over 40's now....

You've missed the point of the problem - it's not that they've changed the GFA times, it's that they've changed them without enough notice for anyone who's now missed out to re-qualify. GFA applications are due in July, and the bulk of the spring marathons are over. Even if you are lucky enough to have a marathon booked between now and then, there's no real time to change your training and go for the new, faster time. And if conditions happen to be unfavourable (like Ediburgh's 30+ degree freak heatwave last year) then you're SOL, even though up until last week VLM's own staff were telling people who rang up that the 2013 GFA times were definitely NOT changing.

No one is saying they should've change their GFA qualifications - they're saying they need to be done with ample notice.

 

I am not arging with that squirrel poo..as I have said earlier i also think its bad organisation  to change this so late......

The post above mine was saying that it only affected a few blokes..........i was just clarifying that it has affected a group of women as well

29/04/2013 at 17:56

everyone knows its a complete cock up by the organisers. Even their website is a complete shambles as nowhere do they say you have a couple of months to register a gfa. So a lot of people would be unaware they still have a couple of months to register a time.

seren nos    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:00

David......it isn't a total cockup......and you are aware now of whta time you need to do next weekend for your GFA.so just go away and devise your race plan so thaqt you can achieve it

29/04/2013 at 18:13

sure thats fine for me. I can go out there and stick a sub 3 on the board on Sunday but Im thinking about everyone else.

kittenkat    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:14

2.45 DF3 or don't bother coming home. I will have fed your tea to the dog.

 

kittenkat    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:17

And remember lovely people (if they haven't changed the rules and you're a club member) you can get on the Champ start with a half time, sub 1.30 for women, not sure what it is for men. I felt guilty getting on it with a half time but my mara time sucks balls a bit next to my half. Thems were the rules so abide by them I did

29/04/2013 at 18:24

Champs times are staying the same; it's a sub 1:15 half for the blokes though.  Good thing I'm a girl.

If you're not a club member you could just make sure you are one by December.

29/04/2013 at 18:31

The GFA times on the London site always just apply to that year.  Because they rarely change them people always just expect they will remain the same but there's no reason why they shouldn't change. 

Its interesting that a lot of people think that if they'd known about the changes a couple of weeks, or a couple of months, before they could change their marathon result on the day.  Since most runners target a marathon and train really hard to achieve the best time possible on the day I'm not sure many people could actually do this.  

If you got close then you've run a really good marathon and you know that you can now run a much fast one next time to secure a place for 2015.  

29/04/2013 at 18:33

All affiliated clubs get allocated marathon places too so there's another way to get in.  I'm sure clubs would look favourable on a member who had just missed out.

29/04/2013 at 18:34
Paul Addicott wrote (see)

@runnerman until after the run they had last years times on display. This us the issue, they can, and will need to change times according to need. However, there was nothing posted on their official website until after the race. The issue for me and many others is we structured our run accordingly... If they gave notice (as with other majors) then at least we would know what to aim for!

Yes but that's GFA for 2013, not 2014. They did remove it eventually. But that is not a god given right to expect the same for next year. I fully understand your frustration, but the sad fact is the organisers went ahead and change this. Life can be a little unfair, but that's life. They are not going to go backwards and make as DF3 would say, a cockup! Or in my words, tits-up! I didn't see many moaning about the organisers moving the start time forward 15 minutes a month before the event this year. Or they bringing in a deadline of 6pm or no medal. Or when they moved the finish in 1994. The fact is its their event, their decision, they went ahead it.

29/04/2013 at 18:34

KK - how did you get on this year?

seren nos    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:40

there was a discussion onhere a couple of weeks ago and one of the blokes actually phoned up the VLM offices and asked them if they were changing and he was told they had no plans to change them this year.now he is pised off andf i think he has good cause........they could have said we are looking at it and haven't decided yet...

kittenkat    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:40

Not that well, 3.30.29, but not a complete disaster. I was really worried about the wheels falling off as I'd missed so many long runs due to 'stuff'.

Did you run Minni?

kittenkat    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:41
literatin wrote (see)

Champs times are staying the same; it's a sub 1:15 half for the blokes though.  Good thing I'm a girl.

If you're not a club member you could just make sure you are one by December.

That's why I joined my club originally

29/04/2013 at 18:42

Me too! I'm just using them...

Well worth the £15 subs though, and I've probably made that back in post-club-run G&Ts.

Edited: 29/04/2013 at 18:43
29/04/2013 at 18:42

Yes, 3:15:48   

kittenkat    pirate
29/04/2013 at 18:43

I have been useful since, I won my stage of the Welsh Castles relay for them last year.

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