is it or not???
Amy - I've often done an autumn marathon as a training run. Not looking for a PB but running about 5 minutes slower than my pb time. Its a great way to practice fuelling etc and reminds you of just how far 26.2 miles is!
Yeah I wasn't thinking of good flat out for it. Just as training like you said! Think I'll definitely sign up in that case!
Amy I'll be going flat out or rather BE flat out trying to keep up hahaha
Well I for one will be INCREDIBLY annoyed if they move the goalposts at this late stage. The webpage with these times have only just changed to 'check back in May' Well if I remember right the GFA time had to be run by 5 July or something. When I read this and fancied giving it a go, around mid Feb I started training. Am nowhere near my best at present (run a 2.35 and 2.37 at London previously) so, risking injury piled on the mileage way too soon without sufficient base and just did enough to get me around in sub 3.10 at Manchester this morning, finishing in an unnecessarily painful 3.06.
Thought, OK time not great, build up shocking (including massive virus during peak month) but my sub 3.10 achieved and now I have a year to train properly. Now I read this thread that it's under review. Well if they review (drop my 3.10 to a 3.05/3.00) and stick to an early July deadline, I have only a month to find a good marathon in the summer to qualify again (and there are not many fast marathons in the UK in June). So running another one in such a short time is both disruptive and annoying (and a month won't necessarily improve you much when you consider recovery and taper time) Like NYM they really need to give notice, or at least have mentioned on the webpage that these times would be under review so not to treat them as givens.
Evan - agree totally - i ran berlin last year with the 3:10 in mind and also got 3:06 - surely at this late stage they cannot move it!! I sent my Berlin certificate in the other day and they sent me a letter saying that GFA registration would be available in May but nothing about the times changing.
New GFA times are on the site - cant apply yet, check back in May. Hopefully we can do it all online rather than faffing around with bits of paper! Good luck everyone!
GFA times for 2014...
MenTime (in hours)
Age 18 - 40 sub 3:05
Age 41 - 49 sub 3:15
Age 50 -59 sub 3:20
Age 60 - 64 sub 3:45
Age 65 - 69 sub 4:00
Age 70 - 75 sub 5:00
76+ sub 5:30
WomenTime (in hours)
Age 18 - 40 sub 3:45
Age 41 - 49 sub 3:50
Age 50 -59 sub 4:00
Age 60 - 64 sub 4:30
Age 65 - 69 sub 5:00
Age 70 - 75 sub 6:00
76+ sub 6.30
So they've made the 18 - 39 time a bit tougher I see. Fair enough; 3:10 was a bit of a soft target but they probably could've given people more notice. Still, I suppose they'll fill the race easily anyway so can do what they want!
Blimey, all those people who just snuck I under the 3:10 barrier this year are going to be a little miffed...
Goal posts moved by 5 mins.....
And for the ladies. It used to be 3:45 them they changed it to 3:50 but have reverted back fotinge under 40s.
Ridiculous, not the time, but to tell me now when u ran London safely to ensure I got 3:10
Does your GFA time go by your age when you ran it or by your age on the day of the race you are entering? I am 40 and like others paced my race for a sub 3.10. Now I do not know if this will be quick enough. As I will be 41 by the time of next years race I do not know if I qualify GFA or not for next years race. I know there is a numbers to call but expecting it to be very hard to get through today.
It is your age on 2014 race day!
That's CRAP! I cruised the last few miles as I knew I was well under 3.10, ended up running 3.06.44. Now I have to find another marathon. Boy they are gonna hear about this from me that's for damn sure - totally and utterly unprofessional moving the goalposts at this late stage.
Just read this, I ran 3h 9m 37s at Brighton this year was expecting a GFA.
Woke up this morning and realised I'll be entering the ballot. A little peeved that goal posts moved so late, but hey ho, will get to watch Mo run the race if I'm no there!
I've a good mind to boycott VLM - sod them and their unprofessionalism, and go and run Manchester again next year. it was a brilliantly well organised and supported race. Have Kent marathon lined up in a month's time in case Manchester didn't work out, but the prospect of running 17 x 2.5km loops on a cycling track..... oh boy! not fun. Recover, get one more long run in again and taper. Certainly not ideal. VLM have, in my opinion really cocked up this time!
Did anyone see if the deadline has moved forward? They should surely give people a chance to have another bash, it's the least they can do.
Sorry David, where is that on the website? Don't see a deadline date. What is it?
Yeah I have Kent marathon entered early June as a fallback, thanks. Just need to put a bit more effort in now, only trained about 70% capacity for this as I knew i'd not get into sub 2:45 shape in 3 months so pointless aiming for AAA Champ place. Have a 2.35 PB so should be able to get to sub 3 shape with a few more long runs, but was really hoping on focussing on speed now and 10K and HM thru Summer as I've been out of the game a few years, not have to go back to marathon training, this will put my training back massively. Thanks VLM, thanks a lot!
Thank ou Lady Over 65 that has cheered me up quite a bit.
I am absolutely crushed. I ran 3:48 in Amsterdam in October and have spent the last 6 months thinking (and telling everyone I know) that I've qualified for GFA, only for them to move the goals far too late for me to do anything about it.
This is completely unprofessional of the organisers to change it this late, and I've half a mind to apply anyway in July with an attached cover letter and see what comes of it.
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