London Marathon Good For Age

is it or not???

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29/04/2013 at 09:31

Yeah I have Kent marathon entered early June as a fallback, thanks. Just need to put a bit more effort in now, only trained about 70% capacity for this as I knew i'd not get into sub 2:45 shape in 3 months so pointless aiming for AAA Champ place. Have a 2.35 PB so should be able to get to sub 3 shape with a few more long runs, but was really hoping on focussing on speed now and 10K and HM thru Summer as I've been out of the game a few years, not have to go back to marathon training, this will put my training back massively. Thanks VLM, thanks a lot!

29/04/2013 at 10:07

Thank ou Lady Over 65 that has cheered me up quite a bit.

29/04/2013 at 10:20

I am absolutely crushed. I ran 3:48 in Amsterdam in October and have spent the last 6 months thinking (and telling everyone I know) that I've qualified for GFA, only for them to move the goals far too late for me to do anything about it.

This is completely unprofessional of the organisers to change it this late, and I've half a mind to apply anyway in July with an attached cover letter and see what comes of it.

29/04/2013 at 12:11

Wow the ballot closed quickly, just got home from a trip and its all over!!! Still have a GFA even with new qualifying times. Feel very sorry for those who miss out with new times.


29/04/2013 at 12:35

Well this is frustrating. My 3:08 is no longer GFA.

I had popped my name down on the Kent Roadrunner waiting list as a back up and it sounds like I will probably get a place. I think I'll use that to try and dip under 3:05.

Roadrunner is on 1st June, so it will have been six weeks since London. I've never done two marathons in such quick succession before. Any advice as to whether this is doable would be much appreciated. I seem to have come through London (my third marathon) injury-free...

29/04/2013 at 12:40

Same here squirrellypoo! 

I thought i was definitely in for 2014! 

I phoned them last year as i had my fourth ballot rejection in a row and they said over the phone that if i was rejected again from the ballot i'd get an automatic place. 

When i called last week to double check, they said that i was 'misinformed' last year and that it no longer applied. 

'Never mind', i thought, i got 3:50 at abingdon in October, should get in on GFA. 

Now that has been changed too. With no time for me to do anything about it. 

i feel rather disappointed and dejected by the whole thing. 

I did enter the ballot again. But have had such terrible luck in the past. 




29/04/2013 at 13:22

I'm pretty devastated, so please excuse my first post being a negative one, as it has changed my feeling towards what was just about the most fun I;ve had running

So I ran 3:05:20, and took the second half to just drink in the atmosphere- clapping the support, and enjoying a good run, annoyed that I hadn't pushed hard enough for sub 3hr, but pleased that I'd be able to apply GFA for next year, and hoping that a year of training (with a few events in between) would allow me to go for a serious PB next time round. Just called, a quite rude lady answered my phone call and said matter of factly that no- there was no chance in applying GFA, even though there was no warning of the change in qualification time. 

At least I managed to get a ballot entry done though.


And realistically- I should have pushed a bit harder.

More training! 

Edited: 29/04/2013 at 13:30
29/04/2013 at 13:38

@MattyWelsh, I may be joining you for that. I ran 3:06 yeterday and also could have pushed on for sub 3:05 if I had any inkling the rug would be pulled out from under us, and will now probably run Kent to go sub 3:05. Should be 'relatively' easy as I had an illness building up to Manchester and am in better shape than 3:06, but have to nail the recovery and re-taper all within a month which will be tricky. Doable, but tricky. Will not try any heroics, go out at 1:31 halfway to aim for 3:02 (need contingency). Around 7 min miling all round. 17 laps of 2.5km does not sound like fun, but al least it's going on an easily controlled, flat course, a time trial essentially. Just scuppers my plans on getting into shorter distances for Summer to build up speed. Waste of another month essentially.

29/04/2013 at 13:55
squirrellypoo wrote (see)

I am absolutely crushed. I ran 3:48 in Amsterdam in October and have spent the last 6 months thinking (and telling everyone I know) that I've qualified for GFA, only for them to move the goals far too late for me to do anything about it.

This is completely unprofessional of the organisers to change it this late, and I've half a mind to apply anyway in July with an attached cover letter and see what comes of it.

Just lie to them about your time and see if they check it.

29/04/2013 at 14:49

@EvanBond - That sounds like a reasonable plan. I'll post again if I get a Kent place from the waiting list.

29/04/2013 at 14:54

You have to send in proof I'm afraid!!!!

I didn't realise the Kent marathon had filled up. It's only 5 minutes from home for me and I was half thinking about it!

seren nos    pirate
29/04/2013 at 14:58

the GFA for those under 40 was made too easy and so it was about time that they tightened it up.......

 I can see why all those who have now missed out are gutted.but at least you are young and so will have plenty more opportunities......

29/04/2013 at 15:02

When I was under 40 the only way in was via a championship place so there was a need to run Sub 2:45!!!

I think there should be some grace for those that are going to miss out because of the changes. I don't think many will be affected. I'd sooner see those guys in rather than those that enter and think it'll be fun, don't train and then take 8 hours or don't finish. Everyone should be entitled to a crack at it but I know people this year who had a longest training run of 5K.

29/04/2013 at 15:22

Well it's all sorted out now.  Go to VLM website and the new GFA categories are there.  Thank heavens!  It means I can go for that now with my results from the VLM 2012.


29/04/2013 at 15:23

The new GFA times seem fairer - I'd certainly welcome the change, but ridiculous to do it with no notice.

How many people don't even know about it yet? How many formerly GFA runners didn't bother putting their names into the ballot? 

29/04/2013 at 15:23

I'm also gutted by this unannounced shifting of the goalposts. I've also been telling people i'll be doing it next year under the GFA scheme. I was on for a sub-3 hr time until 20 miles when I strained a muscle and had to ease back. I kept going, in some agony towards the end, knowing that at least if I got under 3.10 I could come back and try again next year. My 3.08 is now worthless and the pain I went through was all for nothing. What chance do you reckon that they'll accept pleading letters, or give people like me an entry anyway? (I ran 2.55 a couple of years back but not since 1st Jan 2012)

29/04/2013 at 15:42

No chance Dan, save your pen & paper!  My time is 38 seconds outside the GFA and I won't be bothering them.  I suppose they have to draw a line somewhere & based on recent years they won't even allow a few seconds outside.

29/04/2013 at 15:44

If you missed out, heres what I would do.

Find a marathon in the next month or two. The time for this marathon will count as the deadline is in July/August to get your GFA's in.

Study the course. Is there somewhere you can 'cut across' to save yourself some time? If so, enter the marathon, then what you do when you get to that area, make out like youve got an injury and are pulling out. Mingle with the crowd, then when youve got your breath back and with no-one really paying attention to you, join back in where the shortcut exits. Youve just saved yourself a few miles and guaranteed yourself a GFA place.

Remember, as is often told here, you are only 'cheating yourself' ..... big deal, you are only doing the marathon in order to get a GFA time anyway, so if its only 'cheating yourself' then no-one else should care.

After all it worked in the Brighton marathon where apparently huge discrepencies in the times goes unnoticed.


29/04/2013 at 15:47

Not quite unnoticed as far as I recall, David.

seren nos    pirate
29/04/2013 at 15:57

there is a campaign that you can sign that is going around asking VLM to look at those cases that had the correct time prior toi the change

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