rules on bone conduction headphones

Do these contravene Scottish athletics rules

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08/01/2014 at 12:15

Edinburgh will be my first attempt at marathon distance and yes iam already a bit uptight about it! There's one big thing that is preoccupying me...music. Yes I know the debate on MP3's and running events ,but for me music is essential to the extent when I've occasionally run out of battery I've literally stopped and walked home! I have invested in some bone conduction headphones which are fantastic and  do not fit in the ear so technically will not break the rules. However, I want to be sure that they don't break the rules and so far I've had no response from the Q+A page of the event. I can hear everything around me so I can't see a problem myself. Has anyone else explored the rules on these things?

cougie    pirate
08/01/2014 at 12:35
They will be against the rules.

HTFU - if a lion chased you - would you bung the ipod on and scroll through for a fast beat track ?

Its really not that difficult to do.
08/01/2014 at 12:37

If it ain't stipulated in the rules of the event then it's legal to use them. So go ahead and use them. 

Some people might think you a weak, feeble minded person for walking because your MP3 ran out. But not me.

08/01/2014 at 12:38
The fact you call them headphones yourself should tell you that they will breach the rules on headphones/earphones. I' m not saying that they should, but based on wording they will.
08/01/2014 at 12:43

Oh I see you think that you can get away with headphones because they do not fit in the ear? Yes of course they come under a stipulated ban. I thought you meant it doesn't state that headphones are banned. I'm sure you will just do what you like, like most people do anyway. 

08/01/2014 at 12:48
Music is not essential. Why enter the race if you can't comply with the rules?
08/01/2014 at 12:53

hmm well I thought runners were a nice friendly bunch of chilled folk who did it for pleasure.. and might kindly answer a query. I guess i was wrong! I apologise for enjoying running only when I have a soundtrack and that when I'm not enjoying it  (ie no music I opt to stop) I think the rules say that something in your ears is the issue and merely wanted clarification. Whatever, won't bother with forums again, full of mean people...

08/01/2014 at 12:59

The forums are for people who want a discussion. Seems you are confusing not agreeing with you with being mean. 

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
08/01/2014 at 13:02

and that told you rabble

08/01/2014 at 13:04

My opinion is that headphone should NOT be banned but clearly you were looking for some loophole in the rules that wasn't there. And by saying music is ESSENTIAL to running was a little overstated. Maybe YOU feel it's hard to run without it but in no way is music essential to running.

08/01/2014 at 13:08
I don't think any one was being mean they were just giving an answer to the question you posed.
The headphone issue is always a heated one so don't be suprised when people give you their own view on it.
Most runners are friendly people and because of that they like to respect the rules set out by the race director / organiser.
08/01/2014 at 13:08

Joanne - no one is being mean, but the debate about earphones etc is an old and much disagreed about one.

The main issue is that people using music devices in a race are putting themselves, but more importantly the people around them, at risk.  Most of us have seen runners with headphones in during a race who are unable to move out of the way of an emergency vehicle because they can't hear it.  I'm sure the person/people waiting for that emergency vehicle are going to be thrilled that it took longer because someone who was flouting the rules did not get out of the way quickly enough.

For what it's worth, I agree with Millsy - if you can't or won't comply with the rules, then why are you entering?

 

08/01/2014 at 13:12

didn't want agreement just a knowledgable person to say either, no even though they do not go in your ears they are against the rules...in which case I won't use them, or yes the rule says a device which goes in the ear...in which case I will. Running for me is not enjoyable without music...i wasn't suggesting that everyone feels that way.  sigh

08/01/2014 at 13:13

Joanne, I think if you want clarification of the race rules you'll need to contact the race director. All anyone else can give you is an opinion about how they would interpret the rules.

08/01/2014 at 13:16

Okay I'm knowledgeable in that I read the rules. They say no MP3 players or devices plugged into the ear. They are trying to cover all bases but essentially it's a ban on personal audio devices which they feel should not be used in the race. To me it is very clear that that includes your headphones. Sorry if that isn't the answer you want but to say anything else would be a mean old lie.

08/01/2014 at 13:19

OK lets give you a different spin on the answer!

I used to be the same and really NEED the music to keep me going. After I looked into the rules of my first marathon I found out that I couldnt use it and was disappointed but figured I had about 6 months to get used to it. Just start weaning yourself off of it by not taking it with you say, every other run.

The positive sides of not running with music is that you start you really pay attention to how you are running. My technique vastly improved once I stopped listening to music and really helped with the injuries I seemed to pick up all the time.

Now I only use music as a cadence training tool or on ultra marathons for a little bit as a "pain killer"  

Edited: 08/01/2014 at 13:20
08/01/2014 at 13:23

I think most of us have steered clear of that argument B2B. I think she wanted rule clarification. The good news for Joanne is that it is unlikely that anyone will do anything at all if she goes ahead and wears them anyway. They certainly don't at Brighton. Anybody done Edinburgh and know any different?

cougie    pirate
08/01/2014 at 13:26
I agree you are a bit uptight about it Joanne - but no need to call us mean.

If running isn't enjoyable without music - then you're not going to like the marathon much.

But trust us - you could run without music.
08/01/2014 at 13:27

They did DQ someone at Abingdon.

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08/01/2014 at 13:32

 

joanne wilkinson 4 wrote (see)

hmm well I thought runners were a nice friendly bunch of chilled folk who did it for pleasure.. and might kindly answer a query. ...

So this is your first post then eh? 

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