Minni v Dubai Dave
x-post I was wearing shorts honest!
You've probably already got a huge base Minni because you've been running for so long. Just the races then.....
Hmmm, Daren did all those slow easy miles when he was HADD-ing. Maybe there's something in it! 3000 a year must have been a high weekly mileage.
Yes will be there again Minni, the last two years we've taken Parsnip's parents and gone out for dinner afterwards. His Mam seems to like all the men in shorts (and tights)
Nice pink trainers Forever! Those race tshirts are always like tents
So - short race report before I keel over from the wine! Glad to hear the team [minus Daren] were having a warm up for the TM.
Woke this morning to sore throat, headache, tickly cough and bunged nose, which is an occupational hazard at the start of a new Uni term - the dreaded Freshers Flu. We both also had dodgy stomachs due [at least in my opinion] to the unorthodox use of the pasta saucepan by Mr O4S, which he strangely forgot to mention to me until this morning
Swindon is a toughish course, when it is not undulating it is hilly and when it stops being hilly it is mountainous! I usually reckon 2-3 minutes slower than Bristol, so having done a crap time at Bristol [1.49] I wanted to equal it at Swindon, which would be an improvement. Given how I felt this morning I amended this to sub 2 hours and not having to walk
I wore the garmin but decided not to look at it but try to run at constant perceived effort, so that I wouldn't panic when the uphills were slow and the downhills fast. This worked remarkably well and I was soon in a rhythm that felt equal paced all the way, but in fact varied from 6.59mm to 8.45mm depending on the gradients. For the first time in ages the miles flew past and I was able to look around and admire the fantastic views from the top of the highest hill [we got a mile or so flatish before it went back down. Even the horrid uphill drag from 11.5 - 12.5 didn't seem too bad and I actually had something left in the tank.
My garmin squeaked 13 miles at the sign saying 400m to go and we plunged downhill [the hill we had had to come up from the start] where I was passed by a few macho blokes who had been huffing and puffing up the hills, but had plenty of body mass to propel them downhill
Finished in 1.47.xx - about 2 minutes faster than Bristol, average pace 8.10mm and felt great - we even walked for 2 hours in a country park on the way home. Mr O4S got his come-uppance for the waterproofing incident by having to stop at 11 miles at the last en route loo - the time he allegedly lost there has been getting longer all afternoon!!
I was pleased to win the W60 but having looked at the results I realise I could have stopped for a 3 course lunch at one of the pubs and still have won. However I would have been 3rd W50 and 7th W40 had I not been so old
Before my eureka moment I was seriously considering ducking out of the forum for a while so I didn't get even more depressed by all the fantastic times people are posting - but in the end thought I should continue to prove what is possible with minimal training, a frontal lobotomy and a Government pension.
Footnote: our only soup spoon has just been discovered in the garage where apparently it was being used for something involving engine oil
Cooks / Darren / Forever fantastic runs and PB's, you guys are seriously speedy these days
Minni Does the 15 seconds mean you don't have a 2 second PB? Confused.
Spoons: Solid run, would have been considered speedy when this thread started.
Freemers: Even better solid run, and finishing in front of spoons as usual
2Old: The performance of the day, that is an amazing time says one old git to another Gives me hope that there may be one more Marathon PB left in this old carcass.
O4S: Don't you dare ever stop posting here, sounds as if you need to but some new kitchen utensils. Nice run.
I had a nice ride across the desert before dawn, the weather is getting seriously NICE, May run tonight but left calf tight, will see how it feels.
Phwoar! More awesome racing yesterday that I totally missed!
Cooks: firmly cementing your blue HM time then. That is mindbogglingly fast ... not long now and you and 2old bugger off to the sub-3 thread forever: I want to be you too What a fab year of racing for you ... am with you on the importance of base training. I'm good at that. Slow running is what I like most. I'm just crap at speed O4S: top class . Glad you feel better and had such a fab race. Spoons: you took Freemers to seriously there with "around 1:40" . Seriously, after the crap time you've had a 1:39 is not to be sniffed at. DD: what training would you recommend I do between now and my 10k in 2 weeks time? I'm still marathon-slow and 10mm is about as good as it gets at the mo. Have run an amazing grand total of 12 miles last week
My runpix stats are less impressive
Yes, that Neil Flack is a great runner. I see he is a v40 as well Daren - you might want to phone them as well as email (if there is a number?) - I emailed them ages ago when I hadn't received a race pack, and never had a reply...heard a few other similar tales.
Chick: In all honesty any training you do between now and a 10K in two weeks is going to have zero effect. Concentrate on recovery, slow aerobic runs, throw in some fartlek when your legs feel like it, a tempo run a few days before would be good but not essential, I can always feel a had marathon for about three weeks, so you should be feeling good by the time teh 10K come around.
Morning all-tire but still buzzing here
I have now read back and what a day Sunday was! There's definately a benefit in starting at the begiining and reading how the day unfolds.Im thrilled for all the runners yesterday.So many PBs and amazing times and personal successes.
Minni-1.32.40 another PB ! Brilliant ...all your hard work is paying dividends. Remember I ran a 1.32 HM before VLM which was sub 3.15, so its there for you to take and I cant wait for you to do it.
O4S-another-and I dont want to sound dismissive by saying 'another' outstanding result... it was an awesome HM.Age group winner and you put the other age groups to shame on a very tough sounding course in not the best of conditions. Dont you dare 'duck out ' of this thread.You are an inspiration and example to me and the rest of us.
DD-go on ,go for that marathon PB-you know you can do it.To be frank I think the tri training I did alongside my 50 odd average miles a week contributed greatly to my improvement. You have the most idealic training routes of us all.
Great pic of the Team Minni GER squad...so many very happy people, still buzzing
FRC-sorry to miss you yesterday but if its any consolation I didnt see my OH either on two occasions she was close enough to touch me. I looked out for you at the water stations but everyone wore the same T shirts so that was a no go
Cooks-you are streets ahead ,amazing HM and in a zone I can only dream about.Thing is it means that we expect and you have no option other than to go sub 3 at your next marathon-when is it.? Well done
Barry-too true about the leaderboard but I think O4S and I should not be discriminated against and the board should be on a WAVA basis or at least as an alternative-what do you think Minni?Anyway Im awaiting your Abo result with interest.I think we are going to witness something special there for you
Daren-another superb HM result, you'll soon be knocking on Cooks door.Very fast. It is interesting to see how once a milestone is achieved other advances quickly follow and seem less difficult.
Free-Brilliant HM ,I knew you would do it You should be well rewarded when you translate that run and all those LRs into your next marathon
Spoons-sub 1.40 well and truly achieved,you watch those minutes disappear from now on. Brilliant
Forever-1.28!!! What can I say -outstanding and what's your secret but Youve answered that.
Carrot-many thanks and nice wet run
Hope Ive not missed anyone
Thanks DD. Sounds perfect.
Ok so ,the Liverpool Marathon.
Arrived at Birkenhead Park the start area at about 8am in the first shuttle bus and the place was empty. The ground was soggy and my feet soon got wet so I was glad I brought a spare pair of socks later.Chatted to a few people and tried to warm in the sun as it rose.
Then it was time to get to the start. It was all very relaxed and laid back, I waited in the first section but not too near the front ,it wasnt crowded andthen the race started.
As usual the pace was a stupid 6mm so I held back and had this strange experience of watching runners stream past me including charity runners etc.They would pay for it!
The fisrt 10k included the Wirral 10k runners .I wasnt sure how this would work but it was fine .There was no congestion.At 10k they went off to the finish and we carried on along the riverside front to eventually loop back towards the tunnel.I had my first gel at 6 miles.On the opposite side of the river impressive front of the city could be seen but it was a long long way away.Thanks goodness therew as no wind that area must be bleak at times
I planned to stick to a consistent pace under 7.15 and recorded these splits up to the tunnel when I lost signal
7.04, 7.11, 7.01, 7.05, 6.58, 7.03, 7.07 , 7.03, 7.07, 7.34, 7.04, 7.07,
The 7.34 was the inevitable call f nature-damn 30 seconds lost!!
Miles 11 and 12 and into the tunnel were run with a guy from Stafford who was aiming for a VLM GFA at his first marathon attempt and Vicky a Liverpool Harrier who ran VLM in 3.07 this year.
So into the tunnel we went-nearly 2 miles. Immediatel the temprature rocketed.I ran with Vicky and another guy and we kept telling each other to control the pace on the long drag down as we knew we had to do tha same up to get out. Several times we checked our pace and then the half way marker appeared and we could hear drums beating inth distance though no evidence of light from the exit.The other guy went on ahead. Vicky started to struggle so I encouraged her to keep going.
Then we turned right continued up hill and saw day light and the noise got louder and louder.
To be continued...
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