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Minni v Dubai Dave

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15/10/2012 at 21:35

Gazelle - I've put on about 4 pounds since London and just cant shift then.  I'm almost ready to go down the eating disorder line!  I've been really good today but before I knew it I'd downed a couple of glasses of wine tonight. 

2old - I don't know .. am I tapering?!  Since I haven't marathon trained as such I don't know!

Come on then lets have some fun on the WAVA table...

15/10/2012 at 21:46

Congrats Team Minni- what a great weekend!

Darren- whoop whoop- what a result.  You're getting too fast for this thread!

Free- great run and much faster than intended!

Minni- yay, PB!!!.  Very very well done and sounds like you're happy with the result. You're obviously back to your best which is brilliant.

2Old- absolutely blown away.  Amazing result, many many congrats!

Cooks- Congrats on a pb and hope the beer went down well!

Forever- great run from you! 1:28- get in

Spoons- glad to hear you enjoyed the run and the day.  Well done.

O4S- don't you dare ducking out, you're an inspiration to everyone.  Great HM from you.

15/10/2012 at 21:57
Minni - i think you were disappointed- if im wrong sorry but dont be -just when you think it's all coming together something undermines it ..were it not for that bout of cramp you would have well and truly smashed your pb .Interesting you and Daren both suffered with cramp. I read that just as you have to train for hilly courses so you have to for flat ones possibly more so as you tend to use a limited range of muscles.The training you've done recently appears to have been on hilly routes. Also don't forget you are constantly racing. Allow a day per mile to fully recover. When did you last observe that rule? I am in awe of your ability to keep banging out quality training and impressive races week after week and this race is up there as a high quality run. Now please taper properly relax and get the most out of TM . Sorry to go on but I'm determined to celebrate you going sub 3.15 at Chandos next year
Look at me it's taken until October to pb then I get two!
15/10/2012 at 21:58

Minni- you were not far off with with the gutter. I got absolutely smashed at the wedding on copious amounts of lovely champaigne (what was a girl to do) and wine topped up with some shots (me thinks). It's all a bit hazy from the speeches onwards... 

I managed a 5m shuffle tomorrow (not sure how) but otherwise couldn't bring myself to even lift the laptop not to even mention posting. 

Back on the wagon today and not getting off it for the next three weeks. Well... maybe a cheeky glass of red with SSheep on Sunday. 6m easy today, the same tomorrow and 15 with 13 @ MP on Wednesday. 

15/10/2012 at 22:04
I meant I managed the shuffle yesterday... Definitely killed some brain cells...
15/10/2012 at 22:06
Minni - looks like Daren isn't trying and I'm keeping quiet about how bad I'm doing. How do I input my times to get the readings or better still would someone with an IT brain do it for me- what do you need? I've enjoyed my first glasses of wine tonight for two weeks. I didn't want to drink after the race which was a major cause for concern
Bro-many thanks ..wondered where you've been ,taper time for you too ,now that's going to be tough. Going to enjoy watching your mental decline over the next few weeks.
15/10/2012 at 22:13

2old - no I'm not disappointed at all, seriously I'm not.  Last year when I first ran 1:32 I then got injured and missed about 6 weeks.  I came back with a HM time of 1:36 and felt I'd lost everything.  I now feel I've naturally moved up a level from then since I'm able to get the 1:32/33 times without going hell for leather in training to achieve it.   Again, the lead up to VLM people were saying that 3:15 was on the cards for me but I didn't really feel it.  I wanted to but it wasn't there.  Whereas I'm happy to put my neck out now and say I will definitely be hoping to achieve that in 6 months time.

I don't feel as if I race enough.  I'm wondering if I maybe need more races to get my speed work in.  I've always done it on my own but I'm feeling its getting harder as I expect faster times.  Saying that, there's not many races to be had around here.  Most are Newcastle and that's an hour away.  I don't mind it for a target race but its a long way to go just to knock out a few faster miles,

15/10/2012 at 22:15

2old - I think we've been here before.  PM me (or post on here!) your age and pbs and I'll do the graft for you!

15/10/2012 at 22:27
Minni - great ,sorry to read in something I shouldn't. The written word can play games with us.Anyway you have a solid platform to do it at VLM and I'm buying the drink to celebrate. Now what isit blood,urine beetroot? Ok I will pm you IT training stopped with the abacus..just need to finish my pork pie
15/10/2012 at 22:34

Cramp - I've suffered from cramp in the past but rarely do now.  In my opinion it has less to do with salts or fluides and more to do with running too fast too early.  For example I've never had cramp in a marathon but have in HMs and most often in 10ks.  Also, I have been more prone to it in flat races.  Yesterday brought back reminders of the BM a couple of years ago when I was reduced to a painful shuffle in the last couple of miles.   Thankfully it didn't get to that stage yesterday.

15/10/2012 at 22:39
Minni - re WAVA can you ask O4S fora copy of her birth certificate. Those are bordering on world class statistics. Note to self - train more and harder.
O4S- told you ,you are an inspiration ..thanks
15/10/2012 at 22:45

My cramp was entirely to do with running in flats, as I've only had it once before and that was the only other time I tried to run a HM in flats (at Norwich last year). I imagine it's due to the longer drop making the calves work harder than they're used to. However, as I want to keep racing in flats, I've got to find a solution!

WAVA is rubbish for us relative youngsters! My marathon is particularly embarrassing...

16/10/2012 at 00:05
Goes to look at WAVA stats...

Minni good report, yes Vicki same one. always grinning?

AA, not taking anything away from 2olds time at all. Fabulous. so impressed. He was flying down that last hill like a welsh terminator, no messing.
I'd probably over warned him about some bits of the course. Last year, as first year they made it challenging - lots of complaints so the organisers adjusted 2-3 miles in middle, took out some of the later parts, so spaced it better. Sefton Park was like a horror film, bodies strewn all over the place, hamstrings, calfs gone, and that was 3-4hrs runners, marathon veterans too. It's a better marathon for it, people who did both years commented on difference. Some great times at our club & by friends too.

Best comment of day, guy dressed as Superman, full cape, ran I think sub 3:30, got lots of cheers and "Come on" shouts. He said us "sod it. Wish I still had the power to fly"

Brol, you could run an ultra most weeks with your mileage, even during taper. I may have to run more than 45 miles a week! Help. 3 weeks to go?
16/10/2012 at 08:17

Swindon HM have actually published the results as Age Graded [as well as normal].  I was second lady and 12th overall!!  Feeling much better about things today   To be honest I don't feel old so kind of forget that I am most of the time.  The exception to this was last night on my 'hot date' when I felt about 90 .  My trendy look was somewhat spoiled by a big red dripping nose and a hacking cough

16/10/2012 at 08:43

Fab time O4S.

I see Ed Whitlock has been busy again... 3:30 marathon.


16/10/2012 at 11:05

Minni-my pb's









16/10/2012 at 11:14

O4S- Second Lady!another reason not to do yourself down ,outstanding well done. I tend to look at the age grading and age grouping last because,like you I suppose ,I really want to see where I stand in relation to the whole field but I have to be realistic

Quads still battered but I may think about a swim-if ,and its a big if, I go it will be the first for over 5 weeks.

FRC- So I still have at least 27 years to get aworld record

Daren-you can ignore WAVA, you are just fast. Do you wear racing flats for training?

16/10/2012 at 11:22

Only for intervals and the odd short tempo, but I'm going to start wearing them on everything except slow ploddy stuff from now on. I suppose it was a bit silly to think I could race 13.1 miles in them having never run more than 6 miles in them in training!

16/10/2012 at 12:06

Mate from work who also ran GER just came up to me and said 'What happened to you on Sunday? Did you get injured or something?'  I've emailed them twice already with no reply - tried phoning but they just said to email again. The next email will not be so polite and will also be asking for my entry fee back.

16/10/2012 at 12:17
Thanks 2old, I'll sort that out later.

Daren - not stupid at all, it worked!

It's pouring here today.
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