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Minni v Dubai Dave

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09/11/2012 at 11:44

It is tempting Dave, although judging by how I usually set out way too fast on most runs before I check my watch, I fear the surprise would be that I run a new 10k PB but have to walk the last 3 miles! I am trying to be less reliant on my Garmin though and once I've settled into an intial pace I will try to run more by feel at Norwich.

09/11/2012 at 13:16

Go on Daren, do it.  I'm sure you know enough by now to be able to feel if you're going to fast.  

09/11/2012 at 13:17

Free - Don't have compression socks but have recently started wearing 2XU calf guards... but have now re-injured the calf twice whilst wearing them, so may bin 'em as they are obviously jinxed!!!

09/11/2012 at 13:25
Oompa - do you wear them for recovery too? I often sleep in them!!
09/11/2012 at 13:47

Minni - Haven't yet but i did sleep in my Skins full tights after VLM though, and the OH's tights... Errrrrr... Sorry, wrong forum!!!!!!

Cheerful Dave    pirate
09/11/2012 at 14:04

I know what you mean Daren, everyone goes off too fast sometimes.  Your even pace on your last run shows you're a decent judge of pace though, and you say you have a set breathing pattern?  If you're going too fast then that pattern will change pretty quickly, you'll know you're too fast.

09/11/2012 at 14:16

Oompa - I often sleep in my skins, even when I haven't been running a lot.  Mr Minni loves it!!

Cheerful Dave    pirate
09/11/2012 at 14:22

I bet he doesn't love being called 'Mr Minni' though

09/11/2012 at 14:23

Daren -  I would never intentionally run garminless I like the reassuring/or not split every mile and looking at the data after, but my 10k PB was garminless due to it raining before the start and my garmin going mental as the bezel was wet.

09/11/2012 at 14:23

yay, a Skins fetish forum at last 

09/11/2012 at 14:24

Yeah, you're right Dave, and part of me would love to give it a go, but I still don't think I could go cold turkey with the GPS yet - I'm quite an addict so a gradual withdrawal would probably be easier! I think I'd find it quite unnerving to not have any idea what pace I was running at and also, like Barry, I like the motivational factor of knowing too. For example, in the last few miles of the GER I was struggling with cramp etc. and really thought I was slowing drastically, and I might have become demotivated had I not been able to check my GPS and see that I was actually managing to keep the pace up ok and that I only had to hang on in there to smash my PB. But I will see if I can discipline myself to only look it very occasionally and to not be too governed by it as long as the pace feels right.

09/11/2012 at 14:51

Daren - if you increased your weekly mileage it would sort your cramp out. 

M.r Zuvai    pirate
09/11/2012 at 14:59

Afternoon! happy friday everyone!

DD - not sure yet about which IM next year - probably going to do Challenge Henley as part the Pirate crew or im eyeing up that new one in Freemers/Spoons neck of the woods the Anglica. Eyeing up a big one for 2014 - one of: Nice, Austria or Switzerland.

Freemers - there not actually been too much contact with CD - from my part - there's a tendancy in the pirates to expect their mentors to be a free coach with i think is a little unfair - so i was waiting till ive got plans for next year finalised before showing him my training plan and getting his opinion rather than taking advantage!

in terms of a coming race plans nothing serious - i have a cheeky place at hell runner this weekend - which is just a bit of a lark in the mud, then the XC season starting next weekend

no serious racing till the spring with the pre-vlm tune-up halfs


09/11/2012 at 15:13
Minni wrote (see)

Daren - if you increased your weekly mileage it would sort your cramp out. 

But then I'd have to cut out all the quality work and become just a high-mileage plodder like the rest of you

09/11/2012 at 15:14

Mr Z - come and do the Anglian. The start line is a 1 minute walk from my front door so you can pop round for a beer afterwards! I may well be marshalling too.

09/11/2012 at 15:14
DarenF wrote (see)
Minni wrote (see)

Daren - if you increased your weekly mileage it would sort your cramp out. 

But then I'd have to cut out all the quality work and become just a high-mileage plodder like the rest of you

Maybe if he did a marathon.......

09/11/2012 at 15:16


Dubai Dave    pirate
09/11/2012 at 15:19
MrZ it has to be Austria in 2014 can't recommend it enough the setting is just awesome. Holme Pierrepoint it is not! Water is crystal clear no ducks poo, cycle idyllic, run is actually quite like Outlaw but with much more support, top event
09/11/2012 at 16:00
Minni wrote (see)


Sorry Minni, I meant jogger

09/11/2012 at 16:08
Just a quick update to let you know Brol's flight left 7mins earlier at 8.23am local time, due back in uk this evening.

Minni - yes I sleep in compression socks, or full length skins after a tough session but my OH just thinks I'm wierd.

Got roped into playing 5-a-side match for my company in a local league. A good work out but we lost.
Lousy weather here today so hit the gym TM for 6m. Took it easy as feet were sore. I may have mastered how to run forefoot style, but it's a bit trickier, when you've got lots of stop/starts and change of direction playing footie. Hopefully that will come in time.
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