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Minni v Dubai Dave

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13/11/2012 at 06:56

I'll have a think.....

Dubai Dave    pirate
13/11/2012 at 07:04

Not Me, had enough of that.

Minni: I suspect most mums would share your sentiments, MrsDD certainly does but equally most Dads perfected the "I didn't hear anything" technique within days of a sprog arriving and would prefer to just sleep

Edited: 13/11/2012 at 07:07
13/11/2012 at 07:28
DD - we would prefer just to sleep too!!
13/11/2012 at 08:12

Great race Freemers, congratulations on the bling.

Oompa hope the calf is on the mend. As FRC says, the hop test can only tell you so much.

I'm planning to check out a running club tonight. Beginners' section.

I fuel up pre long-run, like Bro I find it really doesn't work for me if I'm under-fuelled and I don't like running long when I'm hungry. I rarely find that my long run days are so busy that I can't justify a bit of porridge and a laze before I head out.

13/11/2012 at 08:36
Morning all
Minni- good to see you running inspire of the norovirus
O4S-I suppose we are due summer temperatures even if its November. Nice short run
DD- sounds an idealic athletic park
Weeble- glad to see you making an overdue return
Calf still sore- more rest. Still not happy
13/11/2012 at 08:53
Dubai Dave wrote (see)

DD2 appeared in our bed at 0330 complaining of fever and headache

I read that as D2D the first time round

Weeble - you won't be a beginner for long

Given how tight my calves were after the TM, and the fact that my left achilles was just starting to grumble a bit towards the end of Sunday's race I have invested in a pair of compression socks...will be trying them out on my run today. Not sure I like the whole shorts/long socks look but let's face it running is harly glamorous at the best of times

13/11/2012 at 09:22

Minni- how are you feeling today?  What sort of doubles are you planning and what mileage for this campaign?

simon62w wrote (see)

Minni - For a bit of extra time management, if you started your late run even later, and your early even earlier, you could merge the 2 together, for one late night 20miler.

Lol Simon

Weeble- good luck with the club.  You will be back in no time, hang in there!

Not sure I could deal with kids sleeping in my bed. Mr B and the cat take up too much space as it is..

2Old- grrr re the calf.  I can understand the frustration. Have you seen a physio?

Free- I quite like the shorts/ long socks look.  Go on, you know you want to!

12m for me this morning with 7 @ MP which was around 7:35-7:40.  Felt good.

I am pondering what to do with manual lapping in San Sebastian.  I was going to use it in NY but the thought of having to remember to press the damn thing 42 times scares me a bit.  Chick- did you find it ok?  Wasn't it too much hassle? I don't want to depend on automatic laps, they're always out.

 

13/11/2012 at 09:41

Had to replace my ripped gloves and capris yesterday and ended up with a jacket and some full length tights [for ultras in winter] as well.  As a result I ended up with a £50 voucher to spend before 2nd December so [very unfortunately I fear I will have to get some more gear...............

After quite a few miles at the weekend and a fast [for me] run last night at the club I found the cycle in to work hard today - not sure I'm looking forward to intervals tonight.

13/11/2012 at 09:41

Minni, did you or any of the other TM-ers see this?

Lucky that didn't happen on your marathon!

 

 

 

 

Edited: 13/11/2012 at 09:44
13/11/2012 at 10:06

Yes I read about that Daren.  Its common up here - the leaders went the wrong way at the Whitely Bay parkrun last week after following a random cyclist. We're not the brightest!

13/11/2012 at 12:19

This happened to me on Boxing Day about 3 years ago! I was running my usual route along the Worth Way, forgetting that they hold a local 4.6 mile (i think) race from Turners Hill every Boxing Day. It's an out-and-back course that comes across the fields and then along the a local trail called the Worth Way to Crawley Down and then should loop around a stile before going back to TH. So there i was, minding my own, ipod on, and wearing a high-vis rain jacket as it was pi**ing down, when i got caught by the quick boys & girls! I tried to stay well out of the way and just carried on regardless through the stile (which was un-marshalled), until i got to the middle of Crawley Down village and turned to see that about a dozen runners were following me!!! Had to explain that i wasn't in the race and found myself apologising for their stupidity!

Pre-run - Under 10... don't really bother... maybe a banana?

Long run - Porridge with a banana mulched in... lovely However VLM 2012, i doubled up and had 2 bowls of porridge, felt great and had plenty in the tank at the end. However i did manage the gels & drinks situation much better this time along with an injury free training programme, so this may have had more to do with it than doubling up the breakfast? 

13/11/2012 at 12:29

FRC -   Very quick racing, when's Wesham?

Weeble - Good luck with the new running club.

2old -  Patience, have you booked a physio appt?

Freemers -  I tried the compression socks for a while for my calf problem, don't know if its just the ones I had but they had no cushioning and struggled with them on long runs.

Minni -  Even though I found the doubles hard at first, I'm going to stick with them when I'm on nights, very good way to log the miles.

Oompa -  The pied piper in a high viz jacket, if you had an evil streak you could have kept quiet and carried on.

5 this morning, very mild, back in  shorts and t shirt. 1 WU, 3 quick, 1 WD.

13/11/2012 at 12:50

Barry B thanks - Sundays course is known as a fast 5k, shame they couldn't make it the full 10k grr, 6:20 pace would be mid 39 mins. Irritating. Wesham is Nov 24th a Saturday but know my missus has essays to write. Nice course if you can get to it and well organised. Wrexham one looks ideal & flat - a Daren type course .

Brol, definitely go the manual lapping. I did 26 at Edinburgh. even did it in the recent 10k.

Minni - how you feeling now?

Freemers I always wear compression socks, even for long runs. you do have to get the right grade for you though, some are just too "harsh". 1000 mile ones I got took 5 minutes per leg to put on... Canterbury ones are lovely, just right. Aldi/ Lidl ones fine too. 2old you got compression socks, to help the calf?

13/11/2012 at 13:55

FRC - interesting about the different grades. I've realised the ones I got (Asics) are probably a bit big - they are men's ones as didn't have ladies in the shop, and although foot size is fine they felt a bit easy to get on, so aren't compressing very much.  Also Barry, they felt like they had very little cushioning so although 6 miles on the treadmill was fine I think I need a bit more padding for the longer runs. I'll probably give those ones to my OH and look for something a bit better fitting and more cushioned.

Daren - it would be easy to go the wrong way on a course over the Town Moor, as there are a lot of paths to choose from in places! Good job they hadn't got very far

13/11/2012 at 13:57

Very warm for the time of year out there today - didn't like it, but managed to complete 4.5 easy then 6.2 @ HMP which came out at 6:30mm (40:19 for the 10k - can't believe how close this possible new HMP is to sub-40 10k pace ). Can't say it felt particularly great or comfortable, but felt tired before I started and it wasn't a disaster, so pretty dead set on going for 6:30mm at Norwich now.

13/11/2012 at 14:02
 
Freemers wrote (see)

Given how tight my calves were after the TM, and the fact that my left achilles was just starting to grumble a bit towards the end of Sunday's race I have invested in a pair of compression socks...will be trying them out on my run today. Not sure I like the whole shorts/long socks look but let's face it running is harly glamorous at the best of times

LOL, Freemers . As for compression socks / shorts: as anyone can see in my pic I don't mind looking like a complete dork .

Brolish wrote (see)

I am pondering what to do with manual lapping in San Sebastian.  I was going to use it in NY but the thought of having to remember to press the damn thing 42 times scares me a bit.  Chick- did you find it ok?  Wasn't it too much hassle? I don't want to depend on automatic laps, they're always out.

 

Bro: I was absolutely fine doing manual splits. The beauty about ks is that they come round so quick! You press lap, run for a bit, check your watch and already 4 more minutes have passed, so the next k marker is due very soon. I missed a few (either they weren't there or I spaced out) but all in all it worked a treat. When I missed one I would wait for the next and just press lap twice so the average lap time was ok again.

An 8 mile run in freezing fog this morning. Brrr. Not nice. Lots of people had to scrape ice from their cars. Very glad we went posh and invested in a massive double-garage

M.r Zuvai    pirate
13/11/2012 at 15:09

on my travels again - i've packed my running kit but forgot my trainers  there's a decent sweetshop not for from the office here in manchester so i'll see how expensice they are!

re manual lapping - that's always what worked best for me, although i do remember at VLM a few years ago i was so tired that my mind went to bits and i was missing and double pressing all over the place!

13/11/2012 at 15:29
That's me too Z. Completely forget to press the button at the correct time!
M.r Zuvai    pirate
13/11/2012 at 15:35

it does make for some interesting post race analysis flitting anywhere between 16min miling and 2 second miling - the graphs are fantastic!

13/11/2012 at 15:51
Barry B wrote (see)

FRC -   Very quick racing, when's Wesham?

Weeble - Good luck with the new running club.

2old -  Patience, have you booked a physio appt?

Freemers -  I tried the compression socks for a while for my calf problem, don't know if its just the ones I had but they had no cushioning and struggled with them on long runs.

Minni -  Even though I found the doubles hard at first, I'm going to stick with them when I'm on nights, very good way to log the miles.

Oompa -  The pied piper in a high viz jacket, if you had an evil streak you could have kept quiet and carried on.

5 this morning, very mild, back in  shorts and t shirt. 1 WU, 3 quick, 1 WD.

Barry - Haha... Hmmmmmm, on second thoughts, there's always this Boxing Day???

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