Minni v Dubai Dave
thats fabulous news Minni bet you're one proud mum - i'll have to watch the prematch build up this week!
Minni - wow! How did his team get picked for that?
Barry - great report and well toughed out. No way do you not have mental toughness - even contemplating two marathons that close together is mental enough . I'm sure you'll nail 3.15 next time in VLM...you'll have Minni chasing you down as added incentive
Good news about your Garmin chick.
Struggled with intervals today - almost chundered on the treadmill as I finished the last one . I think Sunday's race must have taken more out of me than I thought. I think I'll stick to easy running for the next week - to be honest I have no races planned until February and my VLM schedule doesn't kick in for a few weeks yet, so no need to flog myself to death if I don't have to.
Minni- yey!!! Must be very proud
Its to do with Toby Flood who trained as a junior with Alnwick and grass roots rugby. My husband is the team coach and he got a phone call yesterday about it but they just confirmed it today. Of course being the devoted mother/wife that I am I will have to go and watch.
This is my first post in this forum - I thought I would pop in and say a quick hello as I have a place in next year's VLM and am aiming for around 3:30. That would be a huge improvement from my previous time (from 2010) of about 4:18 but my fitness levels are considerably higher now and I have knocked large chunks off my PBs for shorter distances since then. My current PBs are 43:27 for 10K and 1:38:28 for HM, and based on those times I reckon 3:30 is ambitious but not unachievable. Anyway, I will follow the RW training plan for 3:30 and see how I feel.
By the way, I would definitely recommend the Brentwood HM - it is a nice course and the race is always well supported. The start is downhill and there is (unsurprisingly) a longish but not too horrendous uphill bit towards the end, but apart from that it is pretty flat. I've never had a problem at the A12 junction, it is not far from the start and they generally let all of the runners through. The race tends to fill up quite quickly though so it's best to book up early.
** whispers** toby flood injured himself this weekend and wont be playing NZ - i hope that doesnt affect it in anyway
Phew - i didnt even want to mention it incase i jinxed something!
Minni wrote (see)
OMG I am soooo excited! We've just had confirmation that Sky Sports ate coming to film my son's rugby team train at 7am on Saturday morning!! The film will be shown thoughout the day in the lead up to the England - All Blacks match and on a bid screen at twickenham! I'm so proud I could burst!
Yay, Minni. How exciting!!!!
welcome Andy! Those are good race times. I'm sure you can bring them down further in your spring marathon campaign.
Welcome Andy. Based on your 10k and HM pbs 3.30 should be very much achievable. You're in the right place- lots of good advice and support here.
Brol & Barry - Belated congrats on two great times and reports.
Welcome Andy. As Brol said, there's plenty of experience and good advice on this thread... Plenty of nonsense, alcoholism and tr... tri... triath... It's no good, i can't bring myself to say the word!
Oh, one last thing, if you are doing the same marathon as Brol, it might be wise to change venue!!!
I've not been on for a while as feel a bit of a fraud as i'm still not running, but Sunday is d-day... hopefully?
Barry - great report. Sounds tough. Well done again.
Andy - Hi and welcome. 3:30 sounds sensible but don't get hung up on numbers. See how the training goes.
Of course being the devoted mother/wife that I am I will have to go and watch.
Of course being the devoted mother/wife that I am I will have to go and watch.
I bet you sneak off for your run during the filming.....
Way-hey - TV appearance for Master Minni! Nice one.
Great report Barry. Those damn final miles eh!
Chick - ouch, watch out about running on the knee if it still hurts even if it is non running related because you could end up with compensation injury or similar.
Hi Andy - agree with Spoons that its best not to look at numbers just yet, those RW plans have a tendency to pigeonhole you a little too early in the training cycle.
After two days off after my double header I was back running at lunchtime today. Howling northerly winds were not welcome, but I felt pretty good. Effectively the first run of the long road to Paris. Bring it on!
Minni, how exciting! I would watch it but I don't allow myself to have Sky on account of the fact that I'd just spend all day watching sport and doing very little else if I did!
Welcome Andy, I agree 3:30 is, as you said, an ambitious but achievable target based on your PBs, especially as those will probably come down with the training you'll do between now and your marathon. And thanks for the heads up on the Brentwood HM.
Ant, what's with the web link?!
Guess who made it onto the MT podium...
Not sure what the link was for Ant P? errr.
Barry, great report. last 3k sounded really tough. Was there a big gap between the three 3:15 pacers? First 5k was 4:33 not 38 if my maths are correct. Any similarities between in your last 4 marathons, different pacing or fade? I wondered if slightly different pacing in first half or extra gel would've made a difference but 5 weeks apart. You're so close to sub 3:15 though, just a few tweaks, and peak for VLM, sure you will get it.
Congrats to mini Minni.
AndyA, Welcome. I'm sure those half & 10k times are similar to many of us when we went sub 3:30. Half down a touch in training and 3:30 very do-able.
RE: hydration talk, salt was of course important, not just water.. I carry a hand water bottle for long runs, marathons, ultras - find it easier with a sports top & sip when needed, zeros & bloks for races. As with Minni's labs, everyone is different, some need more fluids, sweat more, lose more salt. I'd certainly top up on electrolyte more than plain water during an ultra, but maybe 1/4-1/2 litre per hour. Although no-one has died from dehydration, certainly many people collapse with dehydration, or on drips after races or other sports events. Certainly see a few suffering after ironman or endurance events, getting the carbs & electrolytes right for your body. If it could be worth 1-3% of your peak performance, sure we are all interested in that, difference between 3:16 & 3:13.
Brol ? is it a certain guapa lady?
Off for afterburn circuit in 30 mins, then rest time. Easy run tomorrow I think.
Minni - Congrats on the 5 mile prize and PB, I take it you are fully recovered. Have n't seen Homeland yet, hopefully tonight, my eldest daughter was glad we had n't watched it together as " it gets a bit raunchy" Great news about the rugby.
Well done to the Norwich three for battling the elements. Daren really good finishing position and good news about the cramp.
O4S - Sounds like a rough weekend for you, if you want to something to take your mind off it take a look at the 100KM Tuscany Crossing 27 Apr 2013.
Simon - I would do Blackpool HM and race it, I think 3 weeks is plenty of recovery time.
Brol - Great report and congrats again, target for VLM?
Chick - Bad news about your fall, hope it not too serious. Good news re the Garmin.
Weeble - Good to hear your running is going well.
Welcome Andy, don't become obsessed with times, I don't. Seriously though your times indicate a 3:30 time.
x post FRC - I took the times off the official chip timing email as my garmin lost it a bit due to tunnels/narrow streets ect. Normally I've got to halfway ahead of target 1:33/1:34 to allow for fade whereas Sunday I made a determined effort to run the same pace throughout, but there are so many other factors hard to say which is best for me. In most of them apart from the 3:17 I have struggled in the last 3 to 6.
Probably about 200 metres between the pacers when I was with them but did n't see the finish line gap as I was a bit behind. Anyone know if they have pacers at VLM.
Yes Barry, VLM is full of pacers! Personally, I wouldn't ever run with pacers because I like to be in my own zone but I know others find them helpful.
Homeland - yes there is a very raunchy scene but keep watching! My friend said she turned away but then she missed a crucial snap shot. Oh its so good!
What about trying a different schedule? Or more long slow runs with the last 5 miles or so at MP? It could be that you're still running the majority of your miles too fast?
Brol I'll have a listen but what position did you get?
Daren - I also banned sky from my house and will now have to see if I can quickly get it back!!!
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