RW Forum Six - Sub 3:30

We are all doomed

Brolish wrote (see)

How about a forum outing to the Thunder Run24? It's a cracking event and everyone can decide what sort of ratio of drinking to running they want to employ.  We did it last year with team Gazelle and had a great time.

Im very keen! who wouldn't want to take part in a 24hr race on thier birthday!

  Mind you he was running a marathon a day!

Thunder Run - there's a chance we might be entering a ladies team from my running club, I know a few are keen.  We would have to set up camp beside you guys.   I'll see if its going to go ahead....

oh jebus!  - that's not going to get competitive at all!

M.r Zuvai wrote (see)

is there some thinking behind the 3.35 target?

Based on recent training and races. Obviously my fitness levels are massively lower than they were this time last year

Hope you get delurgified soon, Simon. Your employer seems very strict in terms of sick days ...

A marathon a day seems a tad excessive ...  mind you, just 30-50 mins exercise a day is booooring . Hardly worth getting changed for!

 if we're to base predictions on current fitness then i should be targeting 6hrs!!

come April you're going to be substantially fitter - and you wont have the VLM crowds to put up with..

Daren - Just looked at that New Years Day race you are racing next year. Bloody hell, the winner did it in 31 minutes last year! Doesn't anyone get pissed in Norfolk on NYE?! 

Daren, sure you could do Hadrians wall 67-69 miles. Just run it as 5 halfs? Simples. You peg each one, we catch you up.

DD, nice 5 miles, in km markers? Not sure what you mean about older & slower. You're plenty fast. Think you meant wiser.

Ant - go for it. Get that sub 20 PB in 2012

Brol, Thunder Run - our 2 teams are pretty crammed with OHs already if everyone returns plus other friends, but Mr Zuvai and a few others could squeeze in. kcs already interested a few pages back.
Mr Zuvai, its for fun, not race. Minni If its a competitive team ideally you camp close to start line for fast change overs. We were a 10 minute walk away, furthest!

2old, how do I recover? good question, still working on the answer Think the circuits, S&C help, but i carefully watch my energy levels, my training probably not that different to Daren - but with marathons. Haven't used by HRM for ages, but have this week to gauge things.

Did I mention the top field 10k at end of December I have entered? Last year top 28 all under 31 minutes, top 60 people under 33 minutes - Brownlee brother raced but 2nd. Fast! Winner Jonny Mellor I've done running bootcamps with - did it in 29.10. Got to be some running to get that sub 40 10k 

Who is racing this weekend?

FRC - I can guarantee it will be a competitive team!   but surely it doesn't matter where you camp?  I'd expect the next runner to be there ready and waiting for the previous one coming in. Or do you run to your tent?  Surely there is a change over line/spot?

We've run a few relay races as a club (ladies):  Great Glen Crossing: From Fort William to , 4 or 5 times.  And the Monster Duathlon: Around Loch Ness, 2 times.    I love the long distance relays - waiting for the runners to come in, doing your best for your team.  Great fun.

FRC - wow, that sounds like a quality race. Which one is it?

Ant P wrote (see)

Daren - Just looked at that New Years Day race you are racing next year. Bloody hell, the winner did it in 31 minutes last year! Doesn't anyone get pissed in Norfolk on NYE?! 

Of course not

Much better run today, started very slow and gradually picked up the pace, all very comfortable.

I'm thinking possibly about doing the Norwich YKW tomorrow. Not sure yet - forecast is a bit grim, very cold with sleet...so I might wimp out! I'll see how I feel in the morning.  Sunday I'm planning around 15 miles - going to map out some new routes so might experiment a bit, just hope I don't get lost!

Freemers - out and back, you can't get lost like that! Well, less likely to anyway  10 miles for me on the weekend only - I must be building up a little slower than you!

Spoons- loads of time to improve before Paris. What schedule are you using?

Chick- I'm with you... 30-50min exercise per day??? That's not even a proper warm up...

FRC- let's not worry about having too many runners, we can have as many teams as we want- the more the merrier!

Minni- yes, the next runner is supposed to be waiting for you (unless they're drunk and asleep in a tent) so it doesn't really matter where you camp.  It is logistically easier to be closer to the start line but also very crowded. Being a few min walk away worked for me last year.

Free- glad to hear you had a good run today.  What's the target for YKW?

when do entries need to be in by?

Bro - well, my 10 year old nephew (Cheerful Dave Junior) has recently bettered my PB, so I need to take that right back off him, obviously So I need to run 21.21 or faster (my PB is 21.28). Although knowing my luck he'll go out and smash it himself

I'd love to start getting closer to 21 minutes, and on a better course I could do that - the trouble with Norwich is although it is flat there are a lot of sharp 90 degree turns and you just lose pace every time.

Excuse me!  He was 9 at the time.

He's not parkrunning tomorrow so you'll have at least a week on top.  He'll be pleased to know he's encouraging Auntie to run faster.

I knew it wouldn't take you long to respond CD

Minni, those seconds walking all add up, if you want to challenge the other ladies teams of 5 or 8.

The race stops at 12pm after 24 hours, laps in progress continue. so if you swap over at 11.59.58, then you can get another lap in - and win?
It is a 10k from start to finish line with a steel batton on your wrist, passed to next runner.. but if you're really competitive, the nearer you are to start,  if any mishaps people not turning up and also if you have some helpers coordinating things, maybe someone out injured? The really serious clubs were right on the nearest corners opposite the entrance , probably could roll out of their sleeping bags or even be shouted for - we were about a 7-8 min walk, which I did 20+ times... probably another 10k walked.

Freemers, Ribble 10k in Blackburn direction... field is always strong. see report for last year[/url;]. Jonny Mellor has run with Mo, and is current UK 3000m indoor champion. He's a local lpool runner and lovely guy, sent me tips even, also regularly organises day running bootcamps with his gf for a fiver. His 10k PB is mid 28 mins, half marathon - he's only done one in 62 minutes. Ulp. Fast. Outside chance of Brazil even?
Freemers, Go for it on the park run, give us a target!

Brol, coordinating 3 or more teams.. messy. One was hard, two just about do-able with partners wanting to run, SS, mine and others after more laps? Places are going fast supposedly, last year still some in April, doubt it this. Mr Zuvai, team entry, not individual, will keep you in mind.

Freemers - we'll book the Newcastle Parkrun in when you're up next year. Its on the TM course but without the hill.  Simps.  

Bro - if we put a competitve ladies team in I might be looking to poach you.....