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26/01/2013 at 00:40

Simon- you'll need snow chains if it stays like this . Take care 

26/01/2013 at 01:21
2old, not running maddog after the 50 miler, promised myself rest the weekend after. My Missus is doing it though - the tshirts and medals look amazing. hopefully meet up with Simon on the line and you too.

O4S yes, D is my wife? Did wonder with the green top in your photo if you had links with a certain charity. Or just stalking us in the results?

Brol, great 20 miler. Mrs FRC was on standby last year for TR 24. Glad to see your travel jinx is only when an event is on.

Chic, hope the credit card sorted out. Good luck with the 10k.
AA 20 miles on dread mill. Mad, don't know how you do it.

DD, shame about getting ill so close but still a great time. You finished main thing, lots would've given up.

(((Minni))), have been thinking about you and family last few days.

Only a few light 2x 5m runs this week for me, right knee a little sore today maybe with new Sauconys last 3-4 weeks so taking it easy- tapering anyway.

For gym fans, we did a good exercise this week, an offset squat, more weight on one side than other with barbell, dumbbell or kettle. 3 sets of 8, 4 each side.Pulls your core and balance all over the place, feels very weird even with 10-15kg on.

Circuit in morning, Sunday maybe short run & circuit instead of usual 12 miler.
Snow here has taken out our sky box grrrr but now raining. and Aga broke down this week. Stanley setting alarm off jumping. Awaits next thing to break down - and no, hopefully not my knees.

Only chic racing this weekend?
Edited: 26/01/2013 at 01:22
26/01/2013 at 07:59

I had no idea there was so much to hedgerows. Fascinating what you learn on the Internet!

26/01/2013 at 10:09
Simon- did you make it. The M6 and M58 were closed last night!
FRC- hope to see you at Maddog. A fiend of mine helps organise the race and they are hoping to raise about ??4k for charity
No running here today. Too much snow.
26/01/2013 at 12:54
2old - Yes made it in ok, M6 at standish was still closed, but went down to Ormskirk and picked M58 and it was open. Only 7mins late, so not too bad considering. There were still some cars left on the hard shoulder, I presume abandoned from last night.

FRC /2old - As none of us are actually racing Maddog, we don't have to be there at silly o'clock do we?
FRC - Are you going to make Mrs FRC run with a rucksack, as extra endurance training?
Edited: 26/01/2013 at 13:00
Dubai Dave    pirate
26/01/2013 at 13:45
Spoons. wrote (see)

DD - that's a great performance being ill. That's the problem with marathons. Everything goes perfectly and the suddenly you're ill and you can't just try again next week.

Brolish wrote (see)
DD- it must've hurt in the last miles.. 

There in lies the problem with marathon running its a one stop saloon with no second chances, from 25K onwards hurt more than any marathon I have previously run, it was agony. Only pride kept me moving. I am today virtually unable to sit down or walk down stairs, far worse than I would normally be the day after a marathon. I have no pans for a further marathon at the moment but as I will be in the UK in the autumn and as I will have done the JOGLE by then, i'm open to suggestions

Hope you all enjoy the floods in the next few days Last Sunday I ran around Gatwick in a blizzard which was a bit surreal for me. 

26/01/2013 at 15:00
Simon- looks like you were lucky with your commute. Snow turning to slush very fast so with luck LR will happen tomorrow . I'm thinking of doing around six before Maddog so may need to get there to allow time for that,but I may go with my friend and he won't want to do that and be early for that reason.
DD- it really has taken a lot out of you you feel worse than when you did your toughest IM. . Maybe you need to have a break were putting in some amazing performances before the marathon. Would you recommend a ski trip in amazing conditions as the ideal taper? I'm surprised you didn't get arrested at Gatwick
FRC- my sky failed too but I had freeview through a different aerial to fall back on not that there was much on anyway. The Aga failing must have been a disaster ..suddenly you're back in the Middle Ages ..unless you have back up heating and cooking. Aren't you tempted to pace your OH after all whats50miles?
26/01/2013 at 15:17


30 minutes on the turbo trainer this morning followed by 45 minute run along the beach. My left hamstring now seems to have seized up!

26/01/2013 at 16:16
DD - Northumberland Castles Marathon, 27 October....come on, you know you want to....
26/01/2013 at 16:20
DD- ouch...superDOMS. I know the feeling. Hope you get to put your feet up and get spoilt by MrsDD!
FRC- when is your 50m?
Spoons- take care of the hammies.
5m easy done today.
26/01/2013 at 16:34

Epic, epic, epic 21 miles on the coast this morning.  Went to escape the snow only to find even more snow.  What doesn't kill you......

Freemers - had intended the last 10 to the on the Castles course today but too much snow so had to keep off road.


26/01/2013 at 17:26

spoons- hope your hammy will be ok-  do you think the swims may.have contributed?

MinnI- brilliant run . I can feel your elation . No excuses allowed for me after that. enjoy your rest 

26/01/2013 at 17:27
Minni- jealous! The pics are stunning,
26/01/2013 at 17:57

Hmm...............Today's run didn't go quite to plan.  Got the train to Bath with a 17 mile run back to the car.  First part of the route flooded, but able to divert round and all seemed fine.  2 miles w-up, then 10 miles at MP, remarkably consistent for me, but then a complete collapse, no energy, pace fell off a cliff edge and decided the only way to deal with it was to loop back to round up Mr O4S, by now some distance back, and finish slowly with him.  Overall 16 miles at average 8:50 [including the 10 at MP] at which point my battery went on the Garmin so I can't be embarassed by the time it took to do the last 2 miles [ended up nearer 18 by the time I had collected 'Sir']. Still feeling a bit wobbly and queasy, which doesn't bode well for my endurance - which is normally the only aspect of running I don't have to worry about.

Going to ease off the speed work over the next few weeks and concentrate on endurance.

FRC:  I have been an active LDWA member for over 30 years, so was following the posts on their forum about the Hebden. Looked to see if a friend had managed to get to the start line and spotted that only one couple ran the 22 mile event [or at least only one couple with the same surname].  Poirot eat your heart out!

Flooding predicted down here next..........................

Mr Zuvai    pirate
26/01/2013 at 19:26

evening all, 

hope everyone is completely thawed out by the end of the weekend - im quite done with winter - could do with spring now! Having said that i did run in the most amazing storm last nigt -  the sea didnt have white horses - the wole sea was white - completely raging! i had to stop a few times just to take in the impresive power of it!!

first 20 mile plus run of the season for me today - ended up being a time on feet run, as the lady friend is training for a half for the first time, so my first 8 miles were at 11m/m, so the whole run ended up being 3hrs 25mins long  - good endurance building!!

well done everyone on some super running the last 2 weeks in dreadfull conditions - some serious resolve on display here! espcially well done for the long runs done on treadmills - you guys are seriously tough!!

O4S - stay safe this week with any floods - you've had terrible luck with the weather!

DD - congratulations on a super performance - you can be very proud of what you gave of yourself! hope the cider is delicious!

Minni - great pics, you've done some great running recently!

spoons - take care of that hammy! my hamstring is the one part of me that responds really well to icing 

26/01/2013 at 20:08

DD -  If you coming back to the south west - it's got to be Abingdon for an Autumn mara.

Minni -  21 miles in the snow is v impressive.

Zuvai -  Very good time on feet run.

Busy day for me up at 04;30 for work until 13:30 then 2 hour round trip to Bromsgrove to drop eldest off at boyfriends.  My plan called for 5 mile race aim for   sub 32min, there were no races nearby this weekend so headed out for 5 mile blast hoped for under 34 mins after recent parkrun outings. Good to be back on the roads now the ice has gone and managed 33:03 avg 6:36 which I was v happy with.

Oompa - Where are you getting the paces from, I'm following the 3:15 plan and a different option for the weekend was 10k race aim for sub 40.


Edited: 26/01/2013 at 20:19
26/01/2013 at 21:22

Zuvai - I love the sea when it's like that. Living next to the sea I'm lucky enough to of often see it like that. 

Scuba Trooper    pirate
26/01/2013 at 21:30

DD - amazing time given your illness, shame you didn't get an opportunity to show what all the great training could really have produced.

10 miles on the country roads near my parents yesterday which was lovely with the snow covered fields and a nice change of scene. Followed it up with 1:30hr in front of a film on the turbo this afternoon, I can't believe some of you manage nearly 3 hours on a treadmill.

Cut back week next week 25% of everything which will be welcome after 3 weeks of consistent training.

27/01/2013 at 09:19
Minni - Well done on your 21miler.

Mr Z - Wow, 3.5hrs on your feet is excellent.

O4S - Maybe you need a holiday, like a roundthe world bike trip

Barry - Nice 5miler.
I'm with you in the ABM ( anybody but Murray ) camp, come on Novak.

Stuck in work, so can only follow the news feeds on the web re the match.
Edited: 27/01/2013 at 09:31
27/01/2013 at 10:26

Hope your legs are feeling better today DD. It sounds like a bloody impressive outing in the circumstances.

Oompa there was a similar discussion last year around speedwork and P&D. I recall some people added in an extra interval session during the LT weeks. I'd have to let them say if it helped though. Personally I think it the LT sessions are tough so I wouldn't want an interval session in as well, especially if you're adding extra miles to the long runs (not sure if you are but a lot of people do on P&D).

Carrot it does have a pool, quite a nice one too but still not as good as the one KFC and I normally go to. The good thing is a gym will make me work on my core etc!

How's the Hamstring today Spoons?

Good to see so many people up to 20 miles already. Your run sounds amazing Minni.

Am I the only one who has an odd objection to indoor tennis? I think it brings up memories of wet breaks.

Final Jantastic run will be logged this evening, will probably be a wobbly one as I have a nice boozy Sunday roast planned first.

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