Minni v Dubai Dave
Still sick, still have DOMS. Finishing that one took a lot out of me, so will swim at lunch
Well done all braving the elements and even more well done those who did epic runs on the DM Freemers: hope you feel better soon. Having to fly with a bunged up nose is horrid (cue epic headaches). Hope you have something to help with the congestion.Love reading about target marathon paces . I train by HR so as long as I'm in the right zone I'll be ok. It means a lot of slow & shit running at the beginning of the campaign but if this one goes like the last one did then things will fall into place by April and I should end up with MP that gets me a sub 3:25. Minni: Great mileage . You beat me by 1 mile - racked up 60 last week
Have read back properly
DD - really well done on seeing it through to the end. I had exactly the same happen to me at VLM last year and it really isn't pretty. Not surprised you're still feeling it today, it took me about three weeks to get back to normal. So 3.28 is a damn fine effort in the circumstances.
Barry - nice 5M, sounds like you're broadly on track which is good
Lots of very good LSRs from everyone this weekend, all in trying conditions either outside or in trying conditions on the TM!
Becs - fingers crossed your physio has diagnosed it and the strengthening exercises sort it out for you
2Old - I won't mention the football... if it's any consolation, my team won for the first time in 2013 this weekend, but we're still rock bottom.
Freemers - fingers crossed you've got most of it out of your system ahead of Chicago. Agree with Chick, a long flight when feeling ropey really isn't much fun.
Minni - on the MP front, it's going to be a case of wait and see for me. My heart wants 8.00s, but my head says I'm going to be lucky for 8.30s given how long I've been out. I'll see where I am in a couple of week's time and start putting in some quicker stuff. No idea what form that will take as yet, but guessing probably try to do some tempo runs before I go for intervals.I do have the bonus of an extra two weeks as MK isn't until May 6th but my main priority is to get to the start line fit and healthy as I just want to be able to enjoy it.
DD - not surprised you're still recovering after that effort. Take it easy.
Freemers - hope you recover soon. not nice being ill but well done for resting - its usually the OHs that make us see sense hey!
Golden session (as Shaggy would say) this morning, I prefer killer session though! 8x800s, @6:26 pace aka 15kph. Glad thats done.
AA - you're right....OH said I looked like death yesterday morning and he knew I'd probably be stupid enough to try a run! He said he'd hide my Garmin as well as the orthotics! Very quick 800s there - I've never yet put the TM up to 15kph...I think I'd fall off the back
2Old - the football could have been worse....you could be a Norwich supporter
Freemers - i hope you feel better soon! it rubbish being ill
AA - great intervals - especially first thing on a Monday morning!
DD - i love that you're straight back in the pool - do you ever rest?!
i woke up with morning with DOMS!! not from the long run but from a 30 mile cycle in the sun yesterday!! not sure what thats about! Probably the compounding effort of the long run the day before then a cycle! A gentle cycle and swim this morning appears to have eased it nicely!
RE marathon pace - for MP runs i base it on my PB, but for the shorter intervals and LT runs i calc them on my target MP - i'm comfortable running the faster shorter stuff - terrible at the whole conversion thing (man excuse!)
DD-sorry to see you are still sick-maybe total rest for a week would be best? All I know is that at my age a full on marathon totally drains me physically and mentally .Still, a stretch in the pool in the sunshine can have rejuvinating effects.
Free-best to listen to the body and the OH and rest.Well done getting Jantastic done
Barry-Im pretty confident youll do the next one in 7.20. Im toying with the idea of 7.10 which is only?? a few seconds off my last race pace of 7.14. Trouble is I rarely run that pace whilst training and dont know how I did the last one at that pace so I assume it was a fluke never to be repeated.Also I cant really run to a set pace anyway.
Ant-nice 18 miler.Nearly one month down and once we are into February we can see the taper over the March horizon
Red-thanks for not mentioning the footballHope they donate their wages to charity.
Minni-are you doing a LR a week ? I tend to do one every 10 days until March when I do one a week but if Im doing a HM race I'll top it up to a 20 with a warm up run. My P&D schedule reduces the length of some LRs in March but requires some MP in some . I dont have the confidence to follow that and try to stick to getting them to 20-21 if I can. Come to think of it-I struggled to do that for the Liverpool marathon due to injury and my last 4 LRs for that were 19,20.5,16.3 and 16 in the month before the race so maybe there is something in reducing the length then?
Chick=Minni- great mileage and Minni-9 runs? either your washing machine never stops or you reuse your gear which is not something to discuss in detail 73 miles in 6 runs after 4 days skiing and one rest day for me last week.Makes up for only 33 miles the week before when I went skiing. Think it will be around 65 this week all being well.
2old: Rest? I have an Olympic Tri on Friday and another the following Friday.
2K swim set done,1st time in the pool for 2.5 weeks and thought my arms might drop off, loosened up the DOMS though!
Lots of LSR going on.
AA: Nice intervals, what was the recovery?
Freemers: Hope the lurgy passes soon.
Thought my team (Chelsea) were rubbish until I watched the Liverpool game, they can have Rafa back as well.
DD-so thats your way to rest-what can I sayNo thanks to RAFA, maybe Swansea will have Rogers back
Mr Z- its tough mixing lots of running with the other disciplines.
Free-how much worse? Simon hasnt even commented so he must be distraught
AA-fast intervals -what a way to start the week
I suppose its a recovery run for me today---I hate them!!
Get well soon Freemers
I have an easy 40 minutes tonight
Great runs by Minni, Mr Z, 2old, AA, Ant P, and all the treadmill runners.
Barry - speedy 5 miler.
O4S Hope you're feeling recovered. and stalking me ?! Remember I dont qualify as a toyboy so no checking my date of birth.
DD - you have triathlons booked? hope the flu/ bug has cleared, be safe, ditto Freemers. no shame in bailing on one of the events?
2old, Oldham's ground is very tough, freezing cold, even a slight slope on pitch I think. Always thought it was a hard draw.
Brol, The ultra is this Saturday Feb 2nd Thames Trot 50. Ran fine yesterday to gym & circuit but legs now feel tight after knee the other day... not sure if just DOMS or getting some ITB problems or just me getting nervous. Possibly the later.
Dont know if anyone lives near the route from Oxford Iffley through Abingdon to Henley, wondered what the flooding is like, if any? Oh, and if you're in the vicinity, a cheer and a high five might lift my spirits on Saturday.
Freemers - hope you feel better soon. The long flight probably won't help but you might get some extra sleep? Loving your marathon targets. I didn't get to run any of the marathon course on Sunday because of the snow but did drive the last couple of miles - there is a big hill within the last mile but then a downhill to follow.
2old - yes a long run every week. I do that anyway to be honest. I am a minger and will wear dirty kit for my early morning runs! There's nobody about and the dog doesn't mind the smell!!
AA - 8 x 800 nuff said.
FRC-we always look forward to others races here -possibly more than our own-and as an ultra is something outside most normal peoples experience its particularly interesting .Weather doesnt look good but Im sure youll do it justice. Henley is on the Thames so that will be a challenge if off road.What is your target? Is it a mere 50k or 50 miles? Hope the niggle goes but youll run through it anyway. Not sure it was the pitch that was to blame for yestrdays disaster ,more like a lack of steel and committment when faced by giants.
Minni-at least not washing kit is good for the environment if not your social life
Easy 13k done
FRC - I entered that a few years ago but ended up on an intesive course most weekends through Nov and Dec so couldn't do it. I will keep eye out on local stuff for Thames flooding. Purley went a few weeks ago, but so far think things are ok. Keep eye out on Caversham as well, thats pretty prone.
Freemers - its a big longer than I had visualised. I think it'll be a case of banking some time early on to compensate for it. At least there'll be less than a mile to go from the top though. And the wind will be behind us.
2old - You are too modest , sub 3:10 is no fluke.
AA - Very speedy reps.
FRC - Take it easy with your knee, have you much running planned for the rest of the week or saving yourself for the 50 miles on Sat. Don't want to put a downer on your prep but it's forecast wet and windy down here for the rest of the week.
Night shift for me this week, so 4 miles slow in last night and 8 miles home this morning, was supposed to be 5 miles fartlek in the middle but pavements were very icy so hard going.
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