Minni v Dubai Dave
Spoons, really sorry to hear you're deferring . I've been rubbish and not got round to any reading back on the forum so I'm just picking stuff up from what other people are saying.
2old, I'm with you on the headwind issues today. Great pacing from you, though
Kiwi, are you doing injury cross training too? I'm still doing spin classes as I seemed to have got the bug whilst I was injured. I've been doing 4-5 per week, but I am going to drop that down as my training increases.
AA, how is your calf? Is it serious or settling down now? Even though the run may not have gone as planned, at least you ticked the miles off
Brolish, check you out!!! Wow, that's all sounding seriously good, especially given all the hills I'm so pleased you felt so strong as that's such a great indicator of where you're at. Nice running, girl
Minni, it's good to be back!! 58 miles sounds like a good week so well done you.
Oompa, loving the positive spin on a 50 mile week! Sounds good to me.
O4S, you could pace me in London to a sub-4
Actually, that's sounding like a real struggle right now. I did my LSR today, first Garmin-monitored run for about a year as I got injured towards the end of Feb last year and that's where my running struggles began. Anyway, I've really wrestled with the mental battle of backing down from 3:30 when that's what I was aiming for at VLM last year. Owing to sickness, I only started proper marathon training in the second week of Jan this year, December having been written off and with only a month of base training in November which was my comeback from injury. So 4 hours has now become my target as I don't think there's time for anything better and I simply don't want to put my body at risk of breaking down by doing too much training in too short a period of time.
Anyway, I went out today and of course there was the Garmin. I hit 9:20 m/m and thought that's good, I'll stick at this for the planned 1:45. Only of course, unlike my last marathon build up where that or faster was easy pace (having had months of base training beforehand), this time I was really finding it tough to keep to this pace. The logical part of me worked out that what I really should do was slow down as clearly my running fitness means that 9:20 is not easy pace and so I should be running at least 30 seconds slower, probably more. However, I've already reigned in way too much of my competative nature by backing down from 3:30, so I just refused to take my foot off the gas. So I did 11 miles in 1:43, and it felt really hard going It was very windy out there today, coupled with spots where I was getting sandblasted which is never fun so that didn't help, but overall I just feel a bit adrift and am still wondering whether there is much point in me actually doing VLM, particularly given the flight and accommodation costs/travel time etc. as I'm starting a new job in April. But then I feel so guilty for considering giving up my GFA place as I earned it and have already deferred it from last year
Sorry to be so negative after my burst of positivity earlier!! Does anyone have any advice?
Brol - Good racing, smash that PB at Reading.
SS - 11 weeks to go till VLM, so depending how long you can leave it to book flights/accom, maybe give it 4 weeks of training and see how you feel then.
FRC - Congrats on your ultra, wading through water - fair play to you sounds like adventure racing.
Minni - Two very good back to back runs, how did the speedy reps feel after yesterday's long one.
2old - Very good long run and impressive weekly mileage.
AA - 38 miles is not rubbish with a sore calf just treat it as a cutback week.
Just under 5 easy after work for me this afternoon.
Sorry to hear you've had to defer Spoons, wise decision if you're not back up to normal mileage.
Chick - you should be thrilled with a 17M run done before work, let alone one with 8M at under 8mm! Dare I ask what time you had to get up to do that? Spa weekend sounds great, you really deserve it.
Well done on a strong HM today Bro!
Impressive ultra running from O4S and FRC
Sorry your calf is still giving you problems AA, hope the tape helps. You've still managed to get some decent runs in this week, don't worry about the mileage for one week. Great result for Reading yesterday No I wasn't there, just as well really as I had a stinking hangover and 10+ hours on a bus would have probably finished me off.
Impressive 20M Barry!
Minni of course you wouldn't retire if you went sub-3:15, you'd have to take up your championship start place first! Hardcore doing intervals the day after a 20M.
SS have you already booked your travel & accomodation for London? If it was local and you could complete the distance, I'd still do it. Set a new target, sub-4 maybe, but still run it. If it's going to cost a small fortune then it's maybe not worth the added pressure of having to train for a marathon in 11 weeks just for a time you might not be happy with.
20 miles @ 8:31 done with Parsnip this morning, his hamstring is improving but he'll be under strict instructions to not put down 7 runs per week for Febulous!
Bro - brilliant half well done ????
I'm off to join the gym
Barry- yes, in Reading there will be no excuses!
SS- from a selfish point of view I would very much want you to do do VLM so I'm probably not the best person to give you an objective advice. I wouldn't give up just yet. If you're happy to not put too much pressure on yourself re the time and are happy to do it in around 4 hours I can't see why not. Just because today's run felt tough at 9:30mm, it doesn't mean that it will feel the same in a couple of weeks (especially if it was windy/ sandblasting). Garmin can be our worst enemy!
Minni- you totally nailed those intervals and I can't believe you did them the day after your speedy 20m. Hats off!
O4S and FRC- nice ultra running from both of you
2Old- impressive speed on your LSR yesterday.
AA- glad to hear the calf is behaving, that's the main thing. Hope you have a better week this week.
O4S- another vote for VLM!
Carrot and Oompa- well done on your LSRs today.
Spoons- hope they gym is nice with all the essentials (hot tub/ sauna/ steam room)?
Brol - are you suggesting I'm lazy?
I went on MT to log my Febulous targets and my first run and its gone. Shut down. No place to log. I think I've missed the boat....
I'll send an email.
I'm going for a good old Irish compromise - do a 10 mile slow warm-up, a 20 mile marathon training LSR followed by a 10 mile cool down . I do have the option to go round the 100 mile event with a couple of friends and log around 34 hours (my slowest time for around 30 years) just enjoying the cake, the company and the scenery. At the moment it sounds very attractive, but I know that as soon as I am at the start I'll want to go faster
Minni: you are worse than my students! However I am sure it said you could enter Febulous targets up to today [although possibly it didn't include today?]
Have just got the speed work schedule for February
Freemers - Welcome back, nice speedy reps and a very good long run.
Carrot - Good long run especially after a hangover on Saturday. I'm must be getting old if I got drunk on Friday I'd still be feeling it Sunday morning.
Minni - Hope you get Febulous targets sorted. I thought the cut off was today.
8.5 miles this morning including 10 x 2 mins hill reps - they hurt.
Spoons- I'm only suggesting that you might enjoy some pampering every now and then!
Free- nice reps (6:24???) and a good consistent LSR.
Minni- I was under the impression that it was supposed to be done by 4th Feb so today... Hope you get it sorted!
O4S- tell us more about your speedwork schedule.
Barry- your hill reps sound evil.
Alright all - we seem to have become a medium team on Jantastic. I guess if you don't enter feb targets then you are dropped from the team. Minni - your runs are all on there now though - 8 runs a week!
48 miles for me last week, so gathering steam.
Bro - well done on the HM. I was pondering Watford, but am doing minimal racing in this campaign. And I feel undercooked at the moment as I am still ramping up mileage.
Bit tired after watching the SuperBowl last night or at least most of it. Still dont understand the game but it looked like lots of fun
Great LRs this week end-Minni, Ant, Barry,Free, Carrot.
Minni- no wonder you were tired -a fast interval session after a LR and a party! What happened to hard /easy? Looks like you got your Febtatsic runs logged
Just logged my Febtastic runs which I should achieve assuming no injuries and I can fit in some runs when I ski. Someone put down 30 miles for their LR? Wonder who?
Bro- great HM-sounds tough and after all that travelling and a tiring week too
O4S-Choose VLM-I cant wait to see what you knock out after all this speed stuff your doing
Barry-great hill reps-not pleasant but good for strength and speed-
Free-two very good runs there..no ill effects from your travelling!
Simon-masochistic pace on the Ergo
SS- stick with it ,theres stll lots of time-do the schedule ,youll have residual fitness which will kick back in and experience to fall back on.I think youll suprise yourself. Dont waste the GFA.
Lokks like recovery stuff today for me. My ITB is a bit sore but Im hopeful it will improve with a bit of a jog and stretching
Hi guys! Back from a lovely weekend in the snow with some serious pampering thrown in. And yeah, you all guessed it: I fell off the wagon . Just a few beers but they tasted GREAT 10 easy miles this morning to settle back into a proper running week.
Well done O4S and FRC on your respective ultras Speed sheep: great to have you back with us. Impressive fast and long running Barry, 2old, Minni, carrot and Freemers. Freemers, great speedwork too AA: good to hear that calf is feeling betterGreat HM time, Bro !!Oompa: still a good 18 in the bank. Sometimes that faster stuff just isn't happening ...Minni: glad you got MT sorted: I was a bit worried when I logged my run this morning and you were missing from the list!
Freemers wrote (see)
So I won't see you at the Broadland Half then?
I'll be there in a supporting capacity as GF will be there.
Brolish wrote (see)
Spoons- I'm only suggesting that you might enjoy some pampering every now and then!
Well the truth is I am lazy....
2.5km swim for me this morning
Freemers - 800m intervals followed by a 21 lsr!!! & Minni - 20 lsr followed by 1400m intervals... Am i missing something??? I thought two hard days together was NAUGHTY AND BAD?
SS - I'm with 2old on this one, don't give up your gfa place... There's still a long way to go.
Rest day today but might hit the gym this evening?
Been a bit busy around here but it is confirmed team DD will be back in Blighty around the 8th May. Have already been looking at marathon in Cornwall on the 19th, should be able to recover from that in time to cycle JOGLE on the 8th June.
FRC: respect for the ultra
Bro: Nice 1/2
SS: Difficult call, in reality you have 9 weeks to get fit, so it depends where you are and given that clearly you can run 11 miles now, it should be doable.
Now the best bit of new circumstances is that I'm on gardening leave until May, no work but paid, Yahoooo. So cycled 55 miles in the wind this morning, club run tonight.
I have now been able to put my targets in but cannot log my run from this morning. I only get up at 5:30 for the sake of Janfuckingtastic!
2old - I feel a lot less tired now.
Great runs from Carrot and Freemers. I have a feeling there are going to be a few of us all aiming for similar times from the green start.
Chick - glad you had a nice weekend of pampering.
Spoons - 2.5k swim - yeah very lazy.
I've got a really busy week with lots of late nights.
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