Minni v Dubai Dave
2old - wow a 74m week is good going and nice finishing it off with a 21m run at a speedy pace.
Weeble - hope you remember where this house is! Have a nice holiday and well done for getting jantastic logged before you go.
O4S/FRC - nice ultras. FRC - what is your target for London? Do you think the ultras will help?
Kiwi - nice to see you still spinning and continuing to build your fitness.
Nice to see Barry and AA planning a sub committee meeting next weekend. AA - hope the calf continues to get better.
Oompa - when I put strides into a run like that I tend to do about 6 x 80m. Sometimes I'll do one per mile, say at the end, or stick them all in the middle, about mile 4.
Spoons - hope the X training helps keep your head straight. Stick with it and you'll be back.
KFC - have fun over there.
Ant - nice to see you clocking a 20 miler and you too Carl.
SS - nice to have you back.
Just back from 7.5 with some 1400 intervals to make up for my feeble effort on Friday. (6:39, 6:42, 6:46, 6:36, 6:41). I've finished the week on 58 miles, tired but happy now.
Rest day today, finished the week on 50+ [but no speedwork]
Have a bit of a dilemma to resolve. My 100 mile event is only 2 weeks after VLM this year as I am doing the Marshals' event and helping on the main one. I am struggling to see how I can train properly for both - if I do lots of long slow distance for the 100 miler I will have to drastically reduce the speedwork as I won't be able to manage both without injury / exhaustion setting in. So I have to decide whether to go for a decent time in VLM and then just meander round the 100 as a social outing or go all out for the 100 and probably do VLM in just under 4 hours, no doubt feeling very frustrated
Don't worry I am not expecting a solution, just talking myself through the problem!
Sorry Brol - Well done, I can barely remember the last occasion I managed a time like that and it sounds like a toughie!
Spoons, really sorry to hear you're deferring . I've been rubbish and not got round to any reading back on the forum so I'm just picking stuff up from what other people are saying.
2old, I'm with you on the headwind issues today. Great pacing from you, though
Kiwi, are you doing injury cross training too? I'm still doing spin classes as I seemed to have got the bug whilst I was injured. I've been doing 4-5 per week, but I am going to drop that down as my training increases.
AA, how is your calf? Is it serious or settling down now? Even though the run may not have gone as planned, at least you ticked the miles off
Brolish, check you out!!! Wow, that's all sounding seriously good, especially given all the hills I'm so pleased you felt so strong as that's such a great indicator of where you're at. Nice running, girl
Minni, it's good to be back!! 58 miles sounds like a good week so well done you.
Oompa, loving the positive spin on a 50 mile week! Sounds good to me.
O4S, you could pace me in London to a sub-4
Actually, that's sounding like a real struggle right now. I did my LSR today, first Garmin-monitored run for about a year as I got injured towards the end of Feb last year and that's where my running struggles began. Anyway, I've really wrestled with the mental battle of backing down from 3:30 when that's what I was aiming for at VLM last year. Owing to sickness, I only started proper marathon training in the second week of Jan this year, December having been written off and with only a month of base training in November which was my comeback from injury. So 4 hours has now become my target as I don't think there's time for anything better and I simply don't want to put my body at risk of breaking down by doing too much training in too short a period of time.
Anyway, I went out today and of course there was the Garmin. I hit 9:20 m/m and thought that's good, I'll stick at this for the planned 1:45. Only of course, unlike my last marathon build up where that or faster was easy pace (having had months of base training beforehand), this time I was really finding it tough to keep to this pace. The logical part of me worked out that what I really should do was slow down as clearly my running fitness means that 9:20 is not easy pace and so I should be running at least 30 seconds slower, probably more. However, I've already reigned in way too much of my competative nature by backing down from 3:30, so I just refused to take my foot off the gas. So I did 11 miles in 1:43, and it felt really hard going It was very windy out there today, coupled with spots where I was getting sandblasted which is never fun so that didn't help, but overall I just feel a bit adrift and am still wondering whether there is much point in me actually doing VLM, particularly given the flight and accommodation costs/travel time etc. as I'm starting a new job in April. But then I feel so guilty for considering giving up my GFA place as I earned it and have already deferred it from last year
Sorry to be so negative after my burst of positivity earlier!! Does anyone have any advice?
Brol - Good racing, smash that PB at Reading.
SS - 11 weeks to go till VLM, so depending how long you can leave it to book flights/accom, maybe give it 4 weeks of training and see how you feel then.
FRC - Congrats on your ultra, wading through water - fair play to you sounds like adventure racing.
Minni - Two very good back to back runs, how did the speedy reps feel after yesterday's long one.
2old - Very good long run and impressive weekly mileage.
AA - 38 miles is not rubbish with a sore calf just treat it as a cutback week.
Just under 5 easy after work for me this afternoon.
Sorry to hear you've had to defer Spoons, wise decision if you're not back up to normal mileage.
Chick - you should be thrilled with a 17M run done before work, let alone one with 8M at under 8mm! Dare I ask what time you had to get up to do that? Spa weekend sounds great, you really deserve it.
Well done on a strong HM today Bro!
Impressive ultra running from O4S and FRC
Sorry your calf is still giving you problems AA, hope the tape helps. You've still managed to get some decent runs in this week, don't worry about the mileage for one week. Great result for Reading yesterday No I wasn't there, just as well really as I had a stinking hangover and 10+ hours on a bus would have probably finished me off.
Impressive 20M Barry!
Minni of course you wouldn't retire if you went sub-3:15, you'd have to take up your championship start place first! Hardcore doing intervals the day after a 20M.
SS have you already booked your travel & accomodation for London? If it was local and you could complete the distance, I'd still do it. Set a new target, sub-4 maybe, but still run it. If it's going to cost a small fortune then it's maybe not worth the added pressure of having to train for a marathon in 11 weeks just for a time you might not be happy with.
20 miles @ 8:31 done with Parsnip this morning, his hamstring is improving but he'll be under strict instructions to not put down 7 runs per week for Febulous!
Bro - brilliant half well done ????
I'm off to join the gym
Barry- yes, in Reading there will be no excuses!
SS- from a selfish point of view I would very much want you to do do VLM so I'm probably not the best person to give you an objective advice. I wouldn't give up just yet. If you're happy to not put too much pressure on yourself re the time and are happy to do it in around 4 hours I can't see why not. Just because today's run felt tough at 9:30mm, it doesn't mean that it will feel the same in a couple of weeks (especially if it was windy/ sandblasting). Garmin can be our worst enemy!
Minni- you totally nailed those intervals and I can't believe you did them the day after your speedy 20m. Hats off!
O4S and FRC- nice ultra running from both of you
2Old- impressive speed on your LSR yesterday.
AA- glad to hear the calf is behaving, that's the main thing. Hope you have a better week this week.
O4S- another vote for VLM!
Carrot and Oompa- well done on your LSRs today.
Spoons- hope they gym is nice with all the essentials (hot tub/ sauna/ steam room)?
Brol - are you suggesting I'm lazy?
I went on MT to log my Febulous targets and my first run and its gone. Shut down. No place to log. I think I've missed the boat....
I'll send an email.
I'm going for a good old Irish compromise - do a 10 mile slow warm-up, a 20 mile marathon training LSR followed by a 10 mile cool down . I do have the option to go round the 100 mile event with a couple of friends and log around 34 hours (my slowest time for around 30 years) just enjoying the cake, the company and the scenery. At the moment it sounds very attractive, but I know that as soon as I am at the start I'll want to go faster
Minni: you are worse than my students! However I am sure it said you could enter Febulous targets up to today [although possibly it didn't include today?]
Have just got the speed work schedule for February
Freemers - Welcome back, nice speedy reps and a very good long run.
Carrot - Good long run especially after a hangover on Saturday. I'm must be getting old if I got drunk on Friday I'd still be feeling it Sunday morning.
Minni - Hope you get Febulous targets sorted. I thought the cut off was today.
8.5 miles this morning including 10 x 2 mins hill reps - they hurt.
Spoons- I'm only suggesting that you might enjoy some pampering every now and then!
Free- nice reps (6:24???) and a good consistent LSR.
Minni- I was under the impression that it was supposed to be done by 4th Feb so today... Hope you get it sorted!
O4S- tell us more about your speedwork schedule.
Barry- your hill reps sound evil.
Alright all - we seem to have become a medium team on Jantastic. I guess if you don't enter feb targets then you are dropped from the team. Minni - your runs are all on there now though - 8 runs a week!
48 miles for me last week, so gathering steam.
Bro - well done on the HM. I was pondering Watford, but am doing minimal racing in this campaign. And I feel undercooked at the moment as I am still ramping up mileage.
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