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12/02/2013 at 22:30

Sounds like fun kfc.

I'm heading off to the track tomorrow - first time ever!  Very excited, but... my calf is sore.  Took today off.   Hoping its all better in the morning. 

The next xc is the day before my HM and after enjoying it so much on Saturday I figured I could probably run both if I chose, however, my sore calf is there as a reminder not to take too much for granted.

12/02/2013 at 23:41
Kfc - You haven't got any relations who own an Aston Martin dealership as well have you?
Heli-skiing is something I never managed, very jealous, and before you say anything Minni, yes helicopters were invented back then!

Minni - Have you got Tracy the Trout out on your calf?

Spoons - 10x800's, you b'tard, I bet they love you?

Chick - Are you snowed in yet?
13/02/2013 at 08:42

Luca -  Welcome,  don't do too much in trying to catch up, ramp up the long runs gently. Most important thing is too make it to the start line.

Brol -  Nice MP run.

SS -  Very good session.

Freemers - Nice mile reps.

Minni - Hope your calf is better, mine is still sore, worryingly its on the inside next to the shin which has caused me problems in the past. 

Managed 8 slow miles in Blackpool along the prom yesterday, calf was sort of ok when I got going but was giving grief again later in the day.  Mum still the same but trying her best to be positive, she went for a  appt last week but it seemed like the specialist was going though the motions.   I have never run for charity before but have decided due to mum's condition to run VLM for Parkinson's UK. I've set up a page on the website site link as follows www.virginmoneygiving/BarryBrierley   please do not feel obliged to donate,   but any donations will be appreciated.

Edited: 13/02/2013 at 08:45
13/02/2013 at 08:45

Spoons - and I bet you only let them have very short recoveries in those intervals

Weeble - trouble is when I'm running at lunchtime I have limited run time so tend to keep the recoveries shorter than perhaps I should.  I might switch them round to Fridays again in future when I work at home so can take a longer break without anyone seeing me!

Minni - yes, slap that dead fish on the calf straight away!

Rest day for me today. First day of lent so I'm giving up'll only last a day

13/02/2013 at 09:32

2Old- I wear adidas adizeros xt for xc (Gazelle won them for our team at the last year's TR). I really think it all depends on the terrain. Some of the xc courses have sections of stoney paths and it's very uncomfortable to run on them in spikes. Yes, if it's muddy or grassy spikes help but when the mud is up to your ankles (that would be most of them this season) I don't think it makes much difference, you will slip and slide no matter what. I just don't think that the benefit I get from them is worth the risk of being out of mara training for a couple of days when xc is not your main focus. Enjoy your recovery day today!

Free- nice mile intervals, they are tough!

Chick- glad to hear you're feeling better.

KFC- hope you enjoyed your heli-hitching yesterday. Why don't my cousins have nice jobs like that?

Minni- enjoy the track tonight, hope the calf is better today.

Barry- donation is on its way. All the best to you and your family.

14m MLR planned for tonight.

13/02/2013 at 10:26
Freemers wrote (see)

Spoons - and I bet you only let them have very short recoveries in those intervals

1 minutes is more than enough I thought....

2.5km swim this morning. Will go to gym tonight.

13/02/2013 at 10:53

Barry - inside next to the calf - could be the soleus? Or there is one of the peroneal muscles there.

Minni - watch out for that calf on the track. The bouncy surface can be quite hard on them. My recent achilles injury was done there post hard races.

With all these calf injuries still going on, I thought I'd share an exercise a physio in our running club shared with us recently.


13/02/2013 at 11:57

2old, I'm laughing!!  Yep, you're right, no thieving that session for me just yet.  Mind you, something to put on the back burner for a later day, I just think I'll adjust the pacing slightly 

Freemers, however, I'm liking the sound of your 4x1 mile as an option for me on Thursday.  I'll see how I feel.

Chick, yes, I can see I'm making progress already!  I guess it's just striking the right balance between pushing yourself and not overdoing it.  Really good decision on your part to go for the rest and get healthy again 

O4S, as long as you've got the key ingredients, that's all that matters!!  Hope you feel better soon.

FRC, please pass on my congrats to Mrs FRC.  Something for her to build from and she should be very proud of herself 

Weeble, I hope your TM session went well.  If it's any consolation, we totally missed out on the pancake malarky too - rubbish!

Carrot, probably a silly question, but what is your lunge regime?  I know, it's made up of lots of lunges  But could you let me know how many sets/reps etc. you're doing?  I also have weak glutes so am keen to build in simple things to my routine to help them out.

Minni/Barry, I hope your calves are OK.  Barry, yours sounds very much like mine.  My major injury last year, where it went from a niggle to excruciating and shooting pains down into my ankle over the course of about 4 runs, was a torn plantaris muscle which is a tiny muscle kind of in the middle of the leg between the gastroc and the soleus.  It presents as pain like you describe, and also massive muscle knotting higher up the calf as other muscles try and overcompensate.  The niggles I am having now are in the same place, but nowhere near like the pain I had before.  So I'm trying not to panic and it seems to have responded well to some stretching, icing and compression socks.

Barry, so sorry to hear about what you must be going through with your mother   I will definitely send you a donation when I get a moment to go onto your page.

Spoons, you are harsh!!!

Ant, loving the ankle shuffling!  It can do absolutely no harm to add into my strength training so many thanks for sharing that.

I did a spin session at lunchtime with the lovely new instructor , and have an MLR planned for later this evening of 8 miles.  Think I'll head to the beach and watch the sun go down 

13/02/2013 at 12:06
Brr cold and snowy out there this morning. 10.7 miles done. First 2 miles my thighs felt really heavy and stiff ran through the pain then it eased and the rest was ok. Averaging 7.50s. May try a swim or massage tonight.

Happy running everybody.
13/02/2013 at 12:22

Thanks Ant - that Kinetic revolution has some good stuff

13/02/2013 at 13:27

Did 30 minutes running on the way home last night and about 2 miles this morning - all for Febulous.  However I think that is going to have to be it for a few days, feeling lousy and after 4 hours of coughing and spluttering through lectures and tutorials I think i need a bit of R&R.  Not sure about the 20 mile race on Sunday

13/02/2013 at 13:35
Ah O4S - you shouldn't run if you still feel rough.

Chick, Redders - hope you're starting to feel better.

Barry - sorry to hear about your mum and hope the calf niggle is just tiredness from your sterling run on Sunday.

9 miles ave 8:48 this morning. Legs feeling somewhere near the normal level of achiness now
13/02/2013 at 14:13
Barry - great cause. I'll sponsor you.

My track session has been cancelled due to snow. May rest again. I'm turning into a lazy cow.
13/02/2013 at 14:34

AA: I will be forcing Mr O4S to run it so I'll be there supporting if not taking part!

13/02/2013 at 14:43
simon62w wrote (see)
Chick - Are you snowed in yet?

nope - there's lots coming down but it doesn't stay. We have about 1 degree or something, anyway warm enough for the pesky white stuff to melt as soon as it hits the ground. Seems like you guys are bearing the brunt of the fould weather this time around.

O4S: feel better! That cough sounds serious

nice running, shildon

Was supposed to do my tempo run this morning but figured I wouldn't be able to breathe properly (it was -5 out where I live) so I ran at lunchtime in town. Good decision methinks - 8 miles with 5 @ tempo (7:19). Av. pace for the whole run 7:40. I felt fine cardio wise but had a feeling as if my legs weren't playing ball. Very strange. Probably down to really worn out shoes. I have an ancient pair of spare Fastwitches in my desk drawer and as I forgot my proper shoes yet again I had to use those.

13/02/2013 at 15:26

Minni-moo!! Just wondered whether you can account for all the horses you will have despatched in recent years Thanks for reminding us why we do this- 'enjoying it so much'. Im sure youll make up for that session

Chick-If the weather is paricularly bad I run around the streets rather than the country lanes-it always feels warmer and more sheltered but I hate the stop starts and pavements. Good tempo session there!

Shild-another good 10+

SS-your welcome to try it!

FRC-Until Im well under 40mins(positive thinking there!) I think your spot on about the need to closely manage the seconds so Im running kms next time as you suggest..not miles. Mrs FRC did very well too Im pleased to see

AA-another 9 in the bank

Barry-Calf still playing up-maybe a rest? I found a week off and wearing calf compression guards did the trick.You hammered your legs in your great HM-let them recover. A very worthy charity to run for too

Simon-you cant pedal an Aston Martin

Bro- that makes a lot of sense about not wearing spikes. I read somewhere about runners turning running shoes into suitable x country shoes by putting screws/bolts in the soles. Ever seen that? Enjoy your MLR. I quite like rest days-2k swim done today legs feel nicely stretched and massaged, may do a RR on the TM later. I dont do snow

KFC- good to see you are still getting some runs in. My cousin doesnt measure up to yours with a helicopter but Chiropodists have their uses

13/02/2013 at 15:29
Did my 8 miles along the beach at sunset. Makes me very happy to be alive and running! However, it was not the best of runs. My heart rate was pretty high when I set out, I guess my body hadn't quite settled down after a tough spin session at lunchtime. I worked way harder in the class than I'd intended, but I was just totally in the zone and really enjoyed it. So I ran to heart rate, keeping it to about 144 but that did mean some 9:50 m/ms along the way. PRE felt way higher than the stats show, but all in all, I'm pleased it's done.
13/02/2013 at 15:45
Minni wrote (see)
I wanna send you a Valentine mail Redders.

I'm looking forward to seeing my email tomorrow Minni! 

Sounds like a few ups and a few downs from everyone this week following exceptional performances at the weekend. I'm very much in the down camp unfortunately, am feeling really sorry for myself. I'm now 14 days and counting on the cough front, just can't seem to shift it. If I'd been going at my training from a solid base that wouldn't matter too much, but following injury I'm from a standing start, and it sucks!

Sorry, rant over. I'm going to the pub tonight and I'm going to drink lots, as that's one thing I haven't tried yet. Finger crossed

13/02/2013 at 16:02

Red-thats tough.If you cant run then make the most of it and have a good time

SS- sounds idealic. Is is an easy beach to run pn?-lots of firm flat sand or rocky with soft sand which caves into the sea? I like to run along a beach in Spain where we go to every now and then but the firmer sand caves steeply into the sea which isnt best for the legs due to imbalance

13/02/2013 at 16:30

Red- enjoy your night out and who knows you might be miraculously recovered by tomorrow!

SS- you go for a killer spin at lunch time and expect to follow it with a strong run? No wonder it felt tough!

2Old- putting screws into the soles of running shoes sounds like a great idea- the best of both worlds! Nothing like a bit of DIYing...

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