Minni v Dubai Dave
Wow brilliant racing today AA, you're going to be flying around London on 21st April.
Weeble - I hadn't seen that story about Mo... why bother starting? Don't see why he doesn't just find another HM somewhere? Like you say, maybe he's just saying that and is planning to run the full thing but he's covered his back in case he has a crummy race. He can just drop out if he's suffering as that's what he planned to do.
Minni it was a really good day out, I like relays too - a proper team effort in a race, rather than everyone just running their individual times. I've had a good week this week so I'm hoping the quad was just a bad niggle that I caught in time. It was a bit tired yesterday just after the run but I disappeared into the toilets to lunge and that seemed to sort it out! Hope your car gets sorted.
Simon - from memory when I used to go to the gym alot I used to be able to row 5000m in about 21-22 minutes. I didn't run as much then but my 10K time would have been around 50 minutes, there's no way I'd have run 5K in 22 minutes then. So don't give up the running!
Gazelle - are there any coaches at your club who'd be willing to take you under their wing? I've been given a training plan for London by one of the coaches at my club, they include the weekly track session so I don't need to miss out, and races such as the relays yesterday are worked into the plan. Be good to see how fast you are in your 10K next week, you already have a speedy 10K PB.
Good running Chick, must have been a good duration run.
SS you're doing so well coming back, 15 miles is really good going. It must be tough running in that heat!
Flying AA, flying. Blimey is there no stopping you these days.
Kiwi - you must have thighs of steel. Are you bursting out your jeans?
Right, I feel awful about this but I'm letting the team down this week on Febulous. I'm two runs short (because of having a couple of days off earlier in the week) and could have gone out tonight to do one of them but I'd still not finish on 100%. I've got a big week (running wise) next week and looking at the bigger picture and all that. Soz but promise I'll be back on track next week.
Minni it's just supposed to be a bit of motivation for when you can't be bothered to run in the driving rain, not something to force you to run with a persistent niggle. I missed two runs last week, I didn't want to let the team down either but you have to nip these things in the bud before they get worse. It'll be worth missing the couple of days when you have a cracking week next week. Bigger picture and all that
Just popping in to say hello to AA who I met at Bramley today. Looks like you had a very good second half and should be aiming for something around the 3.15 mark. Well done!
So I'm back, alive and mighty thankful I didn't try to run the first half with AA!!
Bramley 20 - the coughing continues............................
Having met up with AA and reluctantly, but sensibly, not tried to go with her, I set off with BA and jogged the first couple of miles at 9.10mm [or at least that is what he said off his ordinary watch, my garmin died at the start]. Decided I felt OK so picked up the pace a bit and went through 10 miles in 1.27 [about 8.42mm if my mental arithmetic is correct] which means I must have done a few reasonable paced miles to compensate for the start.Not knowing what pace I was doing was liberating in an odd way and I just ran on feel. It started to get quite warm, so I stopped at about 15 miles to take my base layer off and got all tangled up with the gloves tucked into the top of my capris - so managed to waste about a minute, then found it really hard to get going again.
It was around here, or a bit earlier, than i started to feel the effects of the cold, slightly breathless and started coughing up a bit of gunk [the 2 Day Nurse I took before the start presumably got me that far]. I had to walk a couple of short sections uphill as my heart rate was getting rather high, but I managed to re-pass everyone who passed me while walking and got to the finish in 2.57.xx so although I slowed up quite a lot on the second lap I still managed under 9mm overall and my cold feels infinitely better - which is more than I can say for my legs
BA came in about 8 minutes behind me, muttering about getting slower every year, but otherwise OK. We had to stop at every service area on the way home to stop ourselves seizing up but overall a good day despite the inauspicious build-up. Onwards and upwards for the Gloucester 20 in 4 weeks.
Alright all. Great racing from AA & O4S. I managed 100% febulous this week - and had a long run in the sunshine in Buxton today that worked out just perfectly. 20 miles @ 8:36. Definitely starting to feel that things are finally coming together.
AA - geez that was quick. 3:15 sounds like a very doable goal.
Stamford 30km was a great event although very hilly. I biked round and found it hard enough! GF did 2:42 which she was pleased with.
AA - Great result from Bramley. A very good confidence boosting run.
O4S - Good racing, well done for even starting, most of us would have wimped out with the lurgy.
Ant/Chick - Good long runs.
Just had a chance to read back
Spoons: I think your plan sounds spot on, no pressure from anyone just doing what feels right
Becs and SS: sounding positive at last
Ant / Chick: good runs banked at the right time
Carrot: I love relays and have a couple of appearances for the club in May
Can't believe we are already half way through the Spring Motivation stuff - must mean we are getting close to the marathon
I have spent the evening discussing whether we should do a 40 mile or a 35 mile ultra 2 weeks before VLM.................................
Yet more great running happening over the weekend. AA - there is just no stopping you! Great 20 mile time, I really think you're going to have a storming VLM this year
O4S - nicely done from you too - especially on the back of the lurgy you're been suffering with all week.
Ant / Chick / 2old - great LSRs from you all.
Minni - scary with the car going like that...glad no real harm done. And I agree with everyone else on Jantastic...it's only a bit of fun and not like any of us really need the motivation as we all have our own goals anyway.
SS - great to be up to 15 miles already. As kfc said you've ramped up the miles pretty quick and it's no wonder it feels hard. It will come back.
Becs - it's great you are able to run without pain, even if it's only a mile or two
I did my 15 yesterday - average 8.10 pace. Nice day for it - foggy and cold at first but the sun came out and it was lovely by the end. No wind either which makes a change!
Oompa- HADD is explained here. I'm no expert and never used it but I understand that it involves doing a lot of very slow miles and controlling your effort with a heart rate monitor. There is a separate thread for those who follow it. I don't think you can change your long runs on jantastic at this stage..
DD- totally agree with your points on coaching but at this point in time it very much works for me. I don't think I'm experienced enough to know what I'm doing half of the time and also need to be held back every now and then, otherwise would run myself to the ground!
Carrot- well done on the relays, sounds like you enjoyed yourself!
Weeble- thanks for the pm. I agree it's a bit strange for Mo to do half of the VLM. Why not just race a normal half? Not sure what it will tell him in terms of preparation for next year.
Minni/ Carl- I agree that there's no point worrying about jantastic. It's there to motivate you but not to make you run when you're injured.
Chick- great 22m yesterday!
AA- great racing yesterday.... got a bit carried away??? Lol!
O4S- great racing from you as well especially when not feeling100%.
SS- I think you're doing very well considering how much mileage you've ramped up in the last few weeks. Don't obsess about the pace at this stage, there really is no point especially if you're running in 28-29 degrees. You're getting there!
2Old- happy skiing!
Free- speedy 15 miler!
Good weekend of running here. 6m @ 7:43 on Saturday. It was supposed to be easy but MrB joined me and as usual it ended up being faster than planned. Still really enjoyed it. 3h15min LSR on Sunday ended up being 22.5m @ 8:39. Perfect day for it, sunny and crisp. All in all clocked up 75m last week so the biggest week of this campaign.
O4S: Take a break you deserve it
SS: You wil get there
Chick / Ant / Bro good long runs
2K swim set done, club run tonight. No Cycling today
Skimming back through the thread, there has been some great running this weekend.
AA - Fab 20. You must be confident of a sub 3.15 VLM after that.
O4S - Well done on even finishing with the remnants of that cold/cough/whatever it is? I'd give the ultra, two weeks before VLM a miss, but i'm beginning to see a recurring theme on this thread that we don't seem to do the sensible thing too often!
Becs & SS - Slowly, slowly to catch a monkey!
Bro - Thanks for the HADD info. 75 mile week... WOW
Minni - Disgraceful example set by our team leader in Jandoesitreallymattertastic!
I managed to resolve my faux pas with regards to putting the wrong lsr mileages in on Febohbuggeri'mgettingboredofthisulous by running 2 mile w/u, then 4 @ 8.13, followed by 12 miles at 7.26 with another 2 mile c/d... Phew!
Rest day today but i'm gonna hit the gym for some core work, so that i get ripped like Spoons... If you've never seen an orange six-pack, you haven't lived!
Oompa: the ultra two weeks before VLM is not ideal - but then neither is the 100 mile event two weeks after VLM!!
Another gorgeous day and I am tempted to go for a recovery run, but my legs are not so sure..........................
Kiwi: be careful what you wish for - I developed quads of steel in 2008 when I couldn't run and focused on cycling, including 4,000 miles across the USA. None of my trousers would go on, 6 inches too big at the waist and quads bursting out of the legs - not a good look
Well done all on the long runs - if only we could have this temperature and weather for our marathons
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