Minni v Dubai Dave
Hi gang! 2.5km swim this morning in 53 minutes. Will run 35 minutes after work. Then go to the gym for an hour.
What a beautiful day. Makes you almost forget all those long hard miles in the snow and ice. 1.5 mile intervals bagged along with a run along the river with the dog as a warm up.
That's a bit speedy Oompa and nice miles from you Brolish. Nice to see you coming back Spoons.
Enjoy the sun folks.
Minni - As others have said don't overly worry about febulous, there's others slacking more than you.
Freemers/Oompa/Brol - Good running from you all.
Night shift for me this week so as calf felt OK yesterday decided to run to and from work. 3.5 miles in last night slow and it felt OK just a bit tight but the run home this morning was awful with same pain returning with avengance. That was 5 days rest spent icing and stretching since my last run. Got a physio appt this friday, going to try the eliptical x trainer at the gym tomorrow so see if I can train on that. So this mornings effort might be my only run this week.
(((Barry))) back right off. Take the week off. There's still loads of time and you really need to get this calf better. I found I could cycle and the x training might be ok too. I remember sal f on the 3:15 missing virtually the whole of the marathon build up due to injury and she just cross training and ran a pb in 3:09 (I think!). I know its hard - I used to go to bed early hoping that when I woke it would be better - but you will get there, just give it a bit more time.
Barry - As Minni said, back right off. It took me two solid weeks of no running (just swimming & x-training) before it healed. Also, i wore compression calf guards to bed most nights (much to OH's delight)... Dunno if they helped or it may have been placebo, but worth a try?
I did rest, if you can count 4 hours gardening and a brisk 3 mile walk as a rest day. Skipped the tempo run at the club. Looks like a 20 mile race is the way to go if you want to shake off a cold - feeling loads better.
35 minute run done, off road with head torch. Plus 30 mins elyptical and 30 mins weights/core.
AA - Yeah, i've got some history with my right calf, my comfort blanket KT Tape did n't work this time.
Minni/Oompa - Currently sat with my calf guard on. Had a similar problem with my right calf in the Abingdon build up in 2009. 8 weeks very good training then similar calf problem meant 8 weeks of not a lot of running but plenty of x training which led to 3:16 at Abo, feeling great up until 20miles then last 6 were very hard work(lack of long runs), so I know all is not lost, as Wokingham showed am at a decent point regarding fitness, but pee'd off as I never seem to be able to manage a full campaign of (running)training.
Barry, how frustrating for you. Hope the physio can sort you out.
AA, well done on the fast 20 miler at the weekend. Also to O4S for getting through it with a cold. Glad you're feeling a lot better.
Bro, uber-mileage week, well done.
Mo was interviewed about VLM at the athletics and there seemed to be two reasons he was doing it. One was just so that he knows the set up of the race and can work out his pre-race routine, presumably for running the full distance in another year. The second seemed to be to support a UK event and give something back that way.
AA, wow!!! Don't know what to say that others haven't already, but you were flying That is awesome to see, great running!
Kiwi, get in there with your spin sessions! It is amazing how quickly you can get addicted to horrific torture
2old, happy skiing! You attacking the Jagermeister yet??? And I'm laughing, patience was never my strong point!! I am trying, honest
O4S, you batter that cold into submission!! That is seriously impressive given how you felt, well done.
Ant, that sounds like a fabulous long run!! I'm so happy it's all coming together for you. Now, if you could just send me a little of that my way.....
KFC, thank you so much for your thoughts, you are absolutely spot on. This is totally uncharted territory for me as any other time I've come back from an injury, I've had ages before an A-race so have had the luxury of time to build up endurance slowly. I'm not happy that you're finding it hard, but it does make me feel a lot better to know that it's not just me struggling here!! We will get to that start line, come what may You're also right, I must remember I'm playing the long game too and that VLM is just a stepping stone to Dubai next Jan where I will hopefully be back in the 3:30 game. Thank you for the reality check.
Free, thank you And a nice 15. Weather sounds like it was beautiful!
Brolish, I have no idea if I could ever fit in 75m a week!! I love your mileage, it's brilliant! And pretty speedy work from you and Mr B too
Barry, oh no What is it with this thread and calf issues?? Let's hope the physio can give you some hope. Have you tried running in the pool? It's horrific as you have to work really hard so every time you get in the pool it's a very intense session, but as a temporary measure, I'd recommend it. I've got a training schedule I can PM you written by one of the P+D authors, I think it's P.
No running for me yesterday, I took a rest day. We've got visitors over so there was a fair bit of drinking going on, but I'm feeling pretty good today. Gonna step up the tempo session, will try for 2x20@8m/m, but if I'm feeling in the zone, I may just do 4 miles in one block. It depends how I feel. Nothing like making it up as you go along
SS - ah, you've discovered the best schedule of all - MIUAYGA - never fails I do it all the time, particularly with tempo sessions! I have similar today, in the end I expect I'll do a solid 4-5 mile block rather than cut it into two.
Barry - must be very frustrating for you...hopefully the calf guards and a little backing off will do the trick.
Re. Mo - OK, so he wants to 'give something back', which he can well afford to do given the amount he's being paid for what will basically be a 13 mile tempo run....if he runs with the leaders he'll still be below his HM pace and I can't see him going ahead of them. I'd like to see him help out some of the other British runners and maybe act as a pacemaker for them, like Scott Overall did last year. But he won't. Still, I can't really blame him - he is hot property and should make the most of it.
I've been thinking about my pacing strategy for my two 20 mile races. A few on the sub-3 thread did the same 20 as AA and seemed to use a progressive pacing strategy, with four blocks of 5 miles. So I'm thinking 8.20 / 8.00 / 7.40 / 7.20. It'll hopefully mean I should be overtaking people constantly after the first 5 miles which is always a good feeling. I'm going to try it for the first race and then see how I feel about the second one - if I recover OK I could do something similar, but if not I can just use it as an LSR and have a nice gentle run.
OK, so I know it's only February but the running dreams have started. Night before last I dreamt I was at the elite start at VLM (yeah, right ). Then last night I dreamt I somehow decided to enter (on the day) a 50 mile ultra. All was going well until the course went into a house and I got stuck in a cupboard . What's that all about?
Barry- not good news re the calf, really hope some rest will sort it out.
SSheep- good luck with your tempo roday.
Free- when are you 2x 20m races? I like your progressive strategy... or you can just do AA and race them all out!
14m into work this morning including 3x 2m @ tempo (7:05- 7:07). Much faster than any of my tempo runs/ intervals so far so very happy with that. Now I just need to pretend that I'm capable of doing some work rather than napping at my desk...
Free- I dream about running all the time, most often that I'm on the track and the finish line keeps on running away from me...
Mo should be DQ'd for not trying, like that bloke in the 800m at the Olympics. As for "getting to know the set up of the race", that's fooling nobody. He could be the celebrity starter and do that (he may have done that already, I can't remember. And "giving something back" means taking all the media coverage away from the very impressive elite field they've got this year. It'll be 13.1 miles of Mo-Cam, an interview after he's stopped, then it'll be time for the wheelchair finish, the last couple of miles of the elite women and 20 minutes of the elite men before it's back to Mo doing photo-ops with Barney Rubble back at Tower Bridge.
You were probably following your garmin route that took you into a cupboard. There's a lesson for us all there...
CD - agree on Mo, especially given the fantastic elite field already there this year, which must be the best ever. Trouble is jo-public won't have heard of any of them. Even less chance for us mere mortals to get on the telly this year - although you probably will if you manage your normal solo run down the Mall to the finish line
Bro - my 20's are the next two Sundays. Not ideal to have them one after the other but there you go! I'm just glad there are some races like this to do as I'm getting a bit fed up with doing the long runs on my own. I've also got a HM and a 21 mile race, again on back-to-back weekends (CD - I guess you're not doing Cranleigh?)
It wasn't so much running into a cupboard that surprised me - most of my runnig dreams end up with the course taking a strange route, but the fact that I would enter an ultra - unthinkable in real life
Free- I did 2 x 20m back to back during my Copenhagen campaign and it was fine. As long as you can hold back and not race both of them! I really enjoyed doing them half easy/ half at MP. Like you I do all my long runs on my own and don't mind but it was nice for a change.
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