Minni v Dubai Dave
SS-Building up some nice runs there.Im not sure doing 1-2 miles less makes a difference really. I think I remember Moz saying he wasnt convinced by MLRs anyway and that what mattered more were a quantity of quality 10 milers. I hope I undertood his point properly. Yes it was cold but I didnt really feel it apart from the tips of my thumbs even wearing gloves.
Minni - 9th lady! Very impressive indeed...
Brolish - empathise with you on the work front... Things are very busy at the moment so it's constantly getting in the way. Especially when you have suitable fuelled before the run, only to have a meeting put in your diary!
2old - great way of breaking down the marathon like that... Are you hoping for sub 3hrs?
FRC - CBA fairy? GFA? Great 20 miler
Barry - sorry to hear about the injury... Speedy recovery
Col - nice track session and great pace
AA - Great little session from you, surely that instills confidence?!
Was completely snowed in yesterday but managed to get out and do a 5 miler with the 3 middle miles at slightly quicker than MP. Am planning my first ever track session at lunchtime today. 4 x 2K at sub 7:00mm with 200m recoveries. No idea what to expect from the track... Presume people don't use the GPS element of their watches and just work on time?
AA: Yep it was Seth the Sadistic Swim Coach, he's still mean! The second set of 4 x 150M off 10 second recoveries all out effort were truely horrendous, BUT I did finish them. Be Positive you did the Minni session now go and slay the dragon.
2OLD: That was my first truely hard effort swimming for two years, I do speed sets on my own in the pool but never ever push as hard as when Seth is screaming and the ladies behind me are threatening to start tapping my toes. Bike wise I just do miles with hill repeats thrown in, the only speed work I do is on race day. Running I don't have time for real recovery runs as I only run three times a week, my LR is as close as I come if 20 miles can be called a recovery run
SS: The erudite unemployed.... thats me then Your doing some nice running there.
Blade: No need for GPS on a track, you know how far you've run by the marks.
Blade-sub3?-in my dreams! I cant even break sub 40 for 10k .
DD-dont know about erudite , how about loquacious ? Impressive recovery runs.
2Old: I don't think anyone who has met me would call me loquacious, I tend to be a man of very few spoken words
Col - Hopefully no more than a week/10 days. SS has very kindly sent me a link to a P&D training schedule for aqua-running, which i didn't think i'd be able to do as my gym pool is shallow (chest height), but apparently this is not an issue, so i've ordered an aqua belt this morning and preparing to feel like a child with a float again!
Barry - Quite right, hopefully i can keep my fitness levels and only have a 2-week taper and that should do it. Here's hoping?
Blade - Well done for getting out in the snow. It was horrendous!
CBA = Can't be ars*d!
GFA = Good for age
Taking 2old's advice and resting today... RICE, compression garments, chocolate, red wine, horse burgers etc...
SS-now thats something I dont know -he just gave the impression that they were not that important in his opinion- if I was improvising I would do what you suggest and on another occasion do some tempo mileage in it , on another some MP ,on another some intervals, on another some fartleck etc. Maybe if hes stalking us he might comment. As I am following P&D Im doing the MLRs so dont let me put you off them
Hi gang. I spun my car off the road this morning on the ice and ended up in a ditch. Amazingly I am absolutely fine although a bit shaken. I am currently thinking about missing my gym session tonight and going out on the lash instead as recovery....
SS - FWIW I have never done a MLR...just don't have time in the week to fit one in. I have very occasionally done 10 miles mid-week, at a steady pace. But generally my max apart from the LSR is 8. I can't say of course whether I would benefit from doing them, I'll never know!
X-post...spoons - scary stuff. Glad you're OK. Have that drink!
Freemers - what is your plan for Cranleigh next week, if you don't mind me asking?
AA - take your mind back to the couple of days after Wokingham and get back into that frame of mind. Nothing has changed and your 'Minni' session this morning proves that. In my opinion it doesn't matter to your marathon what time you run on Sunday because you've already bagged a great half time so go for it and if its not happening then back off? You're in great shape so 1:30 should be yours for the taking.
Spoons - hope you're ok. You do get a nasty shock.
SS/2old - I remember the talk about the MLR. I have only been doing 12m this campaign and some of these have been split into 6/6. I've done a couple of 14 but not many. I haven't put any MP miles into these, or the long runs come to think of it, and with only 5 weeks to go I'm starting to feel a bit uneasy about my lack of marathon preparation!! So if Moraghan is about perhaps he can tell me all will be ok!! lol
SS - if I was you I'd just do the 10 at a nice easy pace. You're doing loads and you had a great session last night.
When I look back I did lots of shorter MP work in the taper last year so I guess there's still a bit of time....
Spoons: Go on the lash
SS: I have never done MLR for any of the marathons I have done, but often do 8 - 10 mile tempo runs at 1/2M pace. However others have thought that MLR's have been very beneficial. As always we come back to the point that we are all an experiment of one so what works for one maynot for another. The obvious answer is try this marathon without MLR's and include them for the next one.
Spoons: another vote for going on the lash
SS: I'm with Freemers on MLRs - just don't have time, and although I am no longer threatening 3.30 I really don't think it would make that much difference as long as you are keeping active [I cycle to and from work every day]. Then again perhaps I could have been Paula Radcliffe.................
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