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20/03/2013 at 07:40

Minni:  most people wouldn't have even gone through the front door, get a grip!

Carrot:  ((( )))

KFC:  sounds fantastic, Ventoux is my favourite tour climb [so far .  We are also doing North / South via the Pyrennees - if we had time I would be tempted to return by your route [minus the tri].

AA:  taper? What taper??  With 100 miles to run two weeks after VLM that is a luxury I will have to pass on

After tempo on Monday took yesterday off and did a short run before work to count for Jantastic, planning a bit more this evening depending on how my back feels - seems to have settled down a bit for now.  Booked my pre-marathon haircut and sports massage

20/03/2013 at 07:41

Spoons:  meant to say that your fastest run for ages is more or less my MP   Glad its going well

20/03/2013 at 09:22

Carrot - sounds like a spot of mild PF. Ice is not what you want if it is that IMHO. You need to massage it out with a golf ball. Find the location of the pain and work it by pushing a golf ball very hard into the sole of the foot and working it in a circular motion. That will essentially break down the thickened scar tissue that is giving you the problem. Compare it to the other heel to see if you can ID the area of scar tissue.

20/03/2013 at 09:50

Carrot - Hope it's nothing too serious, speedy recovery to you and Parsnip.

Minni - Good days/bad days, just right it off, saying that you did well getting out for a run in the crap conditions.  The main thing is to hit those 7:20 miles come 21 April and your long run at the weekend proved you are capable of it.

Brol - You have a massive endurance base with the mileage you have put in, you are not going to lose any running fitness with a short break. Just go steady and get the injury sorted.

Oompa - Good news on the return to running.

Blade -  Welcome back, how were the legs after the hilly run?

 

20/03/2013 at 09:57

(((carrot)))  - it seems like all that mileage is catching up with us. I have a niggly left hip and 2 extremely niggly feet .

Ant: the golfball thingie sounds pretty . Ouch! Hope it works for carrot.

Aww Minni - you did the majority of the sesh, that's the most important thing. Those paces are pretty damn good under the circumstances. Don't forget that your whole body will be extra fatigued by all that marathon mileage. The cold out there deffo costs us lots of speed at the moment. Just imagine how much lighter we'd fell without them extra layers! Yeah, our non-running partners never understand what the problem is .  

blade: welcome back - nice holiday run banked

Ant P wrote (see)

I only did 2 x 1 mile repeats! So not exactly testing, but I haven't done them for a while. 

O4s - cracking stuff! Mind you they are probably a bit lighter then me I think 20:45 is probably more likely for my YKW, but I will adopt the crash and burn strategy of going out hard, which really worked for me last year.

Crash & burn is the only way to run a 5k

 
old4speed wrote (see)

AA:  taper? What taper??  With 100 miles to run two weeks after VLM that is a luxury I will have to pass on

 Crayzeeeeee as ever


Right, 1st MLR of the week d&d (13 miles). Like Minni I was pretty surprised to run the 2nd half almost in daylight. I found a 2 mile stretch of nearly ice-free pavement. At least I had 2 MT episodes to listen to - otherwise it was boring as hell . Managed an av. pace of exactly 8mm (too fast, I know - but I wanted it to be over and done with ... ).

Edited: 20/03/2013 at 09:58
20/03/2013 at 10:37
Hi All
Minni- stop beating yourself up please that was an epic session and nothing to feel unhappy about. The conditions you run in are dreadful. I wouldn't have bothered and would have jumped on the trusty TM. Maybe you should vary it a bit even the elites use the TM as part of their routine. As AA says not long to go now so save that mental energy for 21st .
Blade- hello again. Fed up of pasta? Lots to eat from now on. Bet those hills made ours look like undulations
O4S- tapers are for the junior members of ths thread. Glad back has improved
Oomp- another positive run there..easy easy..
Chick- nice MLR- is there a point where the pace you think is too fast is the new norm especially as the months of hard work take effect?
Carrot- good advice from Ant. You should be ok pretty quick
KFC- my thighs are burning just reading that bike tour. One day I might do more on my bike but for now ill keep jogging
Bro- stay positive...you'll soon be ok
I've got a bit of a niggle on the outside of my left knee..feels like toothache right on the outer side of the bone to the lower part of my leg where it attaches to my patella. Any ideas please?
Might do my MLR later as its such a pleasant day.
20/03/2013 at 10:47
2oldnever wrote (see)
Chick- nice MLR- is there a point where the pace you think is too fast is the new norm especially as the months of hard work take effect?

maybe, just maybe ....  HR was low though. I take that as a positive. In fact, it felt so much more natural than yesterday's where I forced myself to run slow.

20/03/2013 at 10:47

never had toothache in my knee ...   sorry, can't help 

20/03/2013 at 12:03
2old - sounds very much like a tight IT band. Get that foam roller out.
A
Chick - nice mlr.

9 miles in 8:53 for me today. Felt really hard.
Edited: 20/03/2013 at 12:03
20/03/2013 at 12:38

Minni - I feel ridiculous giving you a 'gee up' as you are clearly a superior runner However, please don't stress about the session, as people have said it was a great session regardless and you need to stay positive now

2old - I think I was being modest about a hill run, I ran up the side of a mountain! I need to store it in the Garmin and check the elevation gain!

Barry - legs feel OK generally speaking but, they haven't felt OK in real terms for about 3 months

Minni - I feel ridiculous giving you a 'gee up' as you are clearly a superior runner However, please don't stress about the session, as people have said it was a great session regardless and you need to stay positive now

2old - I think I was being modest about a hill run, I ran up the side of a mountain! I need to store it in the Garmin and check the elevation gain!

Oompa - Glad to hear you are out running again, albeit slower than normal

Free - You're right, love the inspiration and commerarderie this forum provides. Celebrate the highs, share the lows

AA - Dying to know what a 'trendy 5 miles' looks like!?

20/03/2013 at 12:45
AA - thought so thanks
Chick- yes sounds positive
Col- saw the 'hills ' at lake Como so have a good idea what you mean.
20/03/2013 at 13:05
Blade, a little while back there was a few days where we all seemed to be doing 5milers! Became quite trendy!
20/03/2013 at 13:16
bladerunner07 wrote (see)

Minni - I feel ridiculous giving you a 'gee up' as you are clearly a superior runner


Hey blade enough of that.   We have no superior runners on this thread.  We're all equals with strengths and weaknesses in different areas.  We all have the same ambitions and come across the same problems.  Anyone who sees themselves as superior or posts as being superior, "look at the times I can run, aren't I amazing?'' will soon be ignored!  However, we do sometimes have competitions to see who has been the shittiest - that's fun!

So, thank you for the gee up   and welcome back.

Chick - I haven't listened to MT at all yet this spring but have a duration run to do on my own on Sunday.  Can you recommend any?

AA - have you got any aches and pains from Sunday?

O4S - are you doing the 50m Sheffield thing at the weekend?  Pam was saying she's going.

Watch that knee 2old.

I noticed on Marchvellous that Cooks has bagged a good 10k.

Where is Zuvai?

Barry - still X training?  You're right about the MP.  I'll feel good if I nail the 12 miles on Friday.  I need to speak to Moz about my MP before then but kinda putting off.  I'm frightened that we may not agree on MP....

Edited: 20/03/2013 at 13:19
20/03/2013 at 13:40

Chick- nice easy MLR- tut tut!

2Old- no idea what a toothache in the knee can be but I hope it clears soon.

Minni- even if you agree on MP you will end up going out there and doing what feels right on the day... lol.

AA- sounds like you migh still be a little tired from Sunday?  Sometimes it kicks in a couple of days after the race I find. Take it easy, you've deserved it!

I've been given a green light to do a trendy 5m tomorrow and see how it feels.

20/03/2013 at 13:55

Not that trendy, but did get out for a tentative 3M.  HR still about 10-15 beats high, but starting to feel better.  Phew.

O4S - you are gonna love the aubisque-tourmalet stretch through the pyrenees

20/03/2013 at 14:13
Minni - Your not shit, cus if you were, with a mara Pb about 35mins faster than me, I'd be in 'shitsville Arizona', and I'm not ready to go there just yet.
So just remember, there's always people shitter than you, even on here!
20/03/2013 at 14:16

Minni:  Doing a 25 and a 21 in Devon instead - rubbish weather forecast   After the Rotherham 50 just before TM I decided against anthing that long this close to VLM.  In any case not sure my back is up to it.

Please can i have a collective 'forum finger cross' at around 4.00pm this afternoon.  Will explain later................. 

20/03/2013 at 14:23

Oh of course O4S!  A back to back 25/21will be much easier than a 50 just VLM.

Everything cross here for you.  Does it involve Zuvai?  Have you got him captured somewhere?  Is that where he is.....

Hey lets all go to shitsville, Simon.

20/03/2013 at 14:25

Oompa - great news that your calf has settled down

Ant P - good pace on the mile reps

Minni  - sorry you feel you had a bad run last night. Looking at the session I think you did very well in the conditions.

2old - I hope the knee settles down quickly

Brolish - I used to get shin pain in my left leg for the first few miles of every run. I was told to stretch my calf 3 x 30s each morning and within a few weeks the pain had disappeared. I ocassionally feel it now, but not very often.

Track session last night was 4 mile of alternating 400m @ 5k pace and 400m @ steady pace. I was never comfortable in this session and found it tough going. In particular I found it hard to pace the steady bits and found these gradually got slower as the session progressed. I think the 4m was done was in 27:32 or thereabouts.    

20/03/2013 at 14:44
Minni wrote (see)

Oh of course O4S!  A back to back 25/21will be much easier than a 50 just VLM.

Everything cross here for you.  Does it involve Zuvai?  Have you got him captured somewhere?  Is that where he is.....

 

Well you know O4S and her toy boy admirers (remember the Compleat Angler?)

For MT I'd recommend Mike Tomlinson or both the Kurt Fearnley interviews. Dave Moorcroft was good too, at least part 2 when he was talking about his world record run. 

Had a not to hot run this morning - aiming for 7-8 miles with about 5 @ tempo pace but ended up a bit slower...just couldn't get the speed up before breakfast!

I see more snow is on the way for the North and East, and lots of rain elsewhere. Joy.  Forecast for my 21 miler on Sunday down in Surrey is OK though (so far) - cold but no rain/snow and light winds. So perfect really.  Fingers crossed they've got that right.  Blade - what's your strategy for Cranleigh?

2old - make sure you work on your core and glutes as well as the foam rolling for ITB.

Edited: 20/03/2013 at 14:46
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