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21/03/2013 at 07:40
AA. wrote (see)
Carter - where abouts is your knee pain? Massage and foam rolling the ITB should relieve a lot of the pain. Do you have pain just running or all the time?


AA - it's mainly on the outside of the knee near the boney bit. I do sometimes get a bit of discomfort at the front of the knee too. Occassionaly I am also getting a sharp pain at the back of the knee going down towards the calf. These slight niggles keep coming and going but the outside knee pain was there constantly during my run last knee and got worse as I did more miles. When I'm not running the pain mainly goes away but it can feel it slightly now and again but it's not painful. My upper outside leg is hurting as well but this is a dull achy type of pain. To me it feels like it is caused by the roller rather than it being related to the knee but I wouldnt know for sure. I'm going to book a sports massage for as soon as I can. So, the obvious question now is can I run some easy miles on it or do I rest it until the massage ? Cheers

21/03/2013 at 08:07

Simon:  Mr O4S is happy to donate a tube of American 'Butt Cream' [yes really] which he was persuaded to buy during our ride across the USA.  He could never actually bring himself to use it and we still have it - the other blokes on the tour swore by it!  My only advice would be to get a really comfortable saddle and wear it in well - if you do that and do a reasonable amount of training you shouldn't have any issues with your backside.  I would also use SPDs rather than racing cleats for that distance.

Ladies:  didn't you love the monotone delivery of 'You are a f***ing idiot', [even if you didn't agree with the reason for saying it]  

21/03/2013 at 08:25
bladerunner07 wrote (see)

Free - not sure about Cranleigh really. Being a Cranleigh virgin, I was thinking 15 easy with a push on the last 6. What are you thinking?


Pretty much the same - pacing @ 8.20-8.30 for 15 and then @ 7.30-7.40 for the last 6. I've predicted 2.50 for my Marchvelous target (you missed out on the fun (?) of that) so I think that works out about that time if I've done my sums right.  I'm number 403 if you spot me. Probably be wearing a pink top, or possibly light blue. Or black. Well, whatever comes out the draw first really. Likely to have a black base layer (sorry Minni but it's going to be cold and I won't be racing) and black shorts, white compression socks. And I look avatar (if you can squint!)

Need to watch the video later - can't access it from work

Off for some intervals later.


21/03/2013 at 08:28
O4S - I regularly use that phrase

Carter - it sounds like ITB pain but I would ease off the foam rollering for a bit as you might be overdoing it. Definitely get booked in for a sports massage ASAP. The therapist can trigger point the ITB much better than foam roller. I found that once I had had a deep massage to my ITB it eased it almost straight away. And I've found the work I do on my clients results in freeing the ITB almost straight away. As far as running goes I would see what you can manage without causing too much pain to yourself. The pain will get worse the further you run though.
21/03/2013 at 08:34

Thanks AA, much appreciated

21/03/2013 at 08:55
Minni/SS - thanks for that.

O4S - I've just ordered some expensive bib shorts and a tub of chamois creme, but butt cream sounds even better, cus those yanks have big butts.
I already use mtn bike spd's, and I'll probably end up living in the garage with my bike, and probably not thru my own choice! Hehe
21/03/2013 at 09:53

O4S - Virtual hugs coming your way, you are a tough one, but I think we knew that already.

Simon - Good luck with the training and the ride which sounds pretty epic.

Minni - Yeah still x training, going to give the tready a go early next week.  Still icing, rolling and stretching.  I've found if I press down  in the painful area I get like an electric shock going down to my ankle which I guess is a nerve issue.



Cheerful Dave    pirate
21/03/2013 at 10:11
Freemers wrote (see)
Well, whatever comes out the draw first really.  

Tsk, what would Mrs Davies say?

Simon, I'm afraid the best solution to sore backside on the bike is miles on the bike.  Finding a saddle that suits you is a must (and it won't necessarily be the one with the most padding!).  Padded mitts too, you can have problems with numb hands after long hours with pressure on your palms.

A guy I know once did a million metres on a rowing erg, it took the best part of a week with it set up outside a supermarket raising money.  Mind you he was training for rowing the Atlantic.

21/03/2013 at 10:39

I was suopposed to do 10x800s today but took some advice and listened to my tired body too and opted for 7 miles with 6x800s. Did them a bit quicker @15.2 (6:21pace) but didnt want to push it as I think I'm still recovering . But I'm in the camp with 2old, Freemers and Oomps, I love the treadmill!!

21/03/2013 at 10:58
CD, there was a chap who did the rowing challenge outside Sainsbury's in Basingstoke I saw a while back. Can't remember whether he was rowing the Atlantic, or just had nothing better to do I must confess, I quite fancy rowing said ocean, but not sitting outside a supermarket on an erg.....

AA, sounds like you still managed a very good session even though you're tired. I love the TM too It really helped get my confidence up when I started returning to speed work. I shall do my 800s or something similar on it tomorrow.
21/03/2013 at 11:35

Oo, oo, oo guess what's just arrived in the post in red covered plastic, the words 'Registration Form' on the front and a picture of a can of London Pride on the back?

21/03/2013 at 11:42
AA- good to see you not pushing it at 15.2kmph! TMs rock!
Free- now that's exciting
Feeling tired today.may just do a RR later
So even more snow on its way this weekend even on our side of the country. Should make the LRs and races interesting
21/03/2013 at 11:49

Blimey, one day off of the thread and as usual, so much to catch up with.

{{{O4S}}} - Sorry to hear the news but you seem incredibly positive about it, and as Minni (i think) said, who else would schedule the op around VLM and a 100 mile ultra!

 Minni - Love the "I am a marathon runner... I must run" link but it's not very realistic is it? In reality Mrs Oompa calls me a f***ing idiot within 30 seconds and goes back to sleep!

Barry - Sorry to hear that you're still benched. Have you tried acupuncture?

Blade - Super mile reps.

Simon - Fantastic challenge, but rather you than me. I did an hour on the bike in the gym on Saturday and got off feeling like i'd spent an intimate evening with "Bubba"! 

Rest day yesterday. Thinking of an 11 mile MLR today? Don't want to do too much too soon but calf feels good... Opinions welcomed.

21/03/2013 at 11:59
Oomp- give it a go , easy ,but do it as loops near home so you can bail out easily if you think the problem is kicking off again
21/03/2013 at 12:01

Oh oh oh!  Exciting magazines coming out.  Only 4 weeks to go.  I'm getting excited!

AA - glad to see you took it a bit easier this morning.

I don't mind doing shorter stuff at speed the treadmill

21/03/2013 at 12:03

2old - Agree, but anywhere near home = hilly, which i want to avoid, so i'll do 4 laps with the running club instead... Boring but flat ('ish).

21/03/2013 at 12:06
Free, yay!! Sadly, I won't get the benefit of my own personal bundle of postal excitement until I fly back on 19th so I will just have to enjoy it vicariously through you all . It's working so far as now I really fancy a pint!!!

Oompa, I'm with 2old on this one. Get out there, don't push it too hard and be able to either get home/get rescued easily.
21/03/2013 at 12:08

Ooops where did the rest of that go...?

I don't mind doing shorter stuff at speed on the treadmill, up to 800m, but its the longer stuff at speed that I struggle with.  However, seeing the improvements that AA and 2old have made recently I'm wondering if I'm missing a trick.   Do you think it helps train the legs to turn over quicker than if running outside? 

I need Moz to give me shorter reps to do.  He makes everything so hard.

Worrying about my key MP run scheduled for tomorrow night with all this snow forecast.  Its already white here.

21/03/2013 at 12:29

Minni- that clip had me and MrB in stitches for good 20min last night. I still keep on giggling every time I think of it. Brilliant.

AA- speedy reps. I like your version of an easy workout.

So what is it that starts arriving in the post?  I'm a newbe when it comes to this VLM business, you know...

5m easy done this morning. I was up at 5am and just couldn't wait to get out there. Explained to MrB that the reason I'm running so early is because I'm injured and I need an extra hour to do my stretches and ice up after the run. He was very understanding. Took it very easy and did the first couple of miles around 9.30mm to make sure I'm well warmed up. The shins cooperated and there was no pain.  I am going to keep on stretching and icing up religiously and hope for the best.

Right, I need to go now. I'm a maraton runner and I need to do some stretches.

21/03/2013 at 12:42
My husband told my I was fecking mental when I got up at 4:45 yesterday morning to run. He also said the same thing when I headed out in the cold again last night.
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