Minni v Dubai Dave
Minni: hilarious vid! PML - I'm a marathon runner - I must run. You are a fcking idiot ... well, Mr Chick wouldn't dare call me that but I bet that's what he though. Generally he tells me I'm nuts.Simon: wow, that's what I call a challenge. Best of luck! Sorry to hear about your friend passing away so young. Reminds me a bit of this week's marathon talk where they talk about a guy winning a marathon in 3:07. Pushing his daughter in a buggy. The guy has a terminal brain tumour. And his advice to us all: don't wait to change your life until someone tells you you are going to die. Count me in for sponsorship!AA: doing 800s despite being tired . You are bliddy hardcore. Respect. I canned my 600s for the week. I have too many niggles . I can just about bear them on the slower runs but especially my foot pain is always triggered by speedwork. Can't believe there's no fridge magnet this year! Scandalous As for moving the start time Weather is a right ole nightmare, innit? I was faced with -5 degrees, bitterly cold wind and horizontal snow for parts of the run. I still managed a really good MLR though. 15 miles which I split into 6 lots of 2.5 alternating steady/MPsteady/MP etc. Managed 7:45 for the MP and 8mm for the steady miles. Quite happy with that. But my legs started to hurt badly by the end. Not looking forward to Sunday's 22 miler . Strong winds are forecast and my alternative route where I would have a crosswind is out of the question as it's covered in 5cm of pure ice. So I have to use the road out and back. Bugger... Oomps: am with you on the treadmill. They are horrid. I always feel like a cheat on them. And I don't trust them because so many are badly calibrated. I remember when I started running I did this in a gym on the TM and I was comfortable churning out 8mm (12kph -- at least I thought I did). First run outside: didn't even manage 10mm ... It may be better when you have your own one at home coz you can calibrate it. But I like my home to be neat and wouldn't want a TM in the house. That run yesterday was nuts! I hope you didn't upset the calf again by being stupid ... col: good luck with your half on SundayFRC: puke inducing intervals indeed . Well done!Carrot: great speedwork! And good news on the foot injury front.O4S: enjoy Dartmoor Minni: I forgot to answer your question about marathon talk episodes worth listening to. Deffo the 2 Kurt Fearnley ones. That man is a hero, he really is. I think one of the episodes contains a neverending boring plug about those new mega-cushioned adidas shoes - I would fast forward that - it'll send you to sleep . And the Mike Tomlinson one is one of my faves too. That one is pretty emotional though. Prepare to burst out in tears . The most recent one should be good too - it's with Libby James who seems to be a female Ed Whitlock. She's just achieved a 103% age grading running a half marathon in 1:45 aged 76 . She seems to be a slightly older version of O4S . I haven't listend to it yet but I bet it's good.
Bro: crossing my fingers for your and your shins!
I'm looking to go under 3hr 30 for the first time at the rotterdam marathon in 3 weeks time...I havent entered a race for 6 months, so thought i better try to fit one in....The 3 options that i'm considering are:
10M race 16 days before rotterdam
10KM race 13 days before rotterdam
Or neither and just concentrate on tapering....
any advise on which of these 3 options to go for and how to run it, or does it really make little difference?
richardson83 - None of the above... just do your taper. Both of the races are too close to your A race and therefore the risk of injury too great.
POT, KETTLE, BLACK I HEAR YOU CRY!
Oh, and lastly... Ffs don't ask Minni... You'll regret it!
Hi Richardson- I don't think it will make a big difference but I would go for the 10 miler. Why do you want to race? To give you a better idea what to aim for in Rotterdam or just to get to grips with race conditions/ practice fuelling?
Simon - is that training plan seriously asking you to do 4 consecutive weeks of 14+ hour rides just before the event? I think I'd prefer to do a few weekends with 2 consecutive 100M rides and probably one 15+ hour day. The mega commute will be really great training too. I'd definitely check out local sportives and club rides - great way to get 80+ mile rides in.
Got my mag - Green start for me.
OK, went out for a 3M with 1M wu and 2 at planned pace for the half tomorrow (7.30-40). Heart flipped out of rhythm after 2M. Hmm, thats a sure sign I'm still a bit ill. I want to avoid a DNF due to my heart flipping out. Will make a decision tonight from the options below.
1) Original plan - start at 1:40 pace (7:40/mile) and aim to take it up in the last few miles to get my target 1:38
2) More conservative - aim for a 1:45 MP training run
3) Bin it
Oompa wrote (see)
richardson83 - None of the above... just do your taper. Both of the races are too close to your A race and therefore the risk of injury too great. POT, KETTLE, BLACK I HEAR YOU CRY! Oh, and lastly... Ffs don't ask Minni... You'll regret it!
I'm doing a 10k 14 days before VML. Fickle, aren't I?
I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a shorter race 2-3 weeks before the mara, especially if you need it to set the target. I wouldn't do anything longer than 10m though.
Brolish - A bit of both really, i've done all of my long training runs in the evenings, so i would like to get to grips with fuelling for a morning run (although i guess that can be done out of race conditions). And like a lot of people with 3 weeks to go i'm starting to question the marathon race pace i have in mind!
Gah. Great run yesterday, so I go ruin it all and wake up with a cold and a hangover today.
We're going to have a party on the Green start
Minni - nightmare weather conditions...I'd probably do the 20 tonight so it's done. At least other sessions you can change or miss if necessary. I think we're going to escape any meaningful snow, and there's none forecast in Cranleigh for my race. (Blade - definitely the base layer!)
Richardson83 - welcome to the thread . I'd probably do the 10 mile myself, but might not push it to the max.
7 miles easy for me today. Well easy pace but the wind made it feel harder!
Richardson83 - welcome. I have only recently started posting here. They are a great bunch and you will get some great advice. I did my first sub 3:30 at Rotterdam in 2010. It's a great course with the only incline being going over a bridge twice. It was quite congested at the start but I think that was because I started at the back of the pen I was in.
Brolish - good luck with your run tonight. I hope your shins behave themselves.
Chickadee- good run from you. I tried a multi pace session on Tuesday and failed miserably
2old- I think a jacket may well be called for in tomorrow's half. At the very least I will be wearing a long sleeve top and a t shirt. I hope Minni doesn't mind too much! The run is on the coast and it's an out and back route so there will be no hiding from the wind which is forecast to be gale force.
kfc- I did a silimar to run to you last night with 2m at half marathon pace in the middle of a 6m run. It was really hard work and my breathing was awful. On top of that I have a cold and I seem to have developed a slight niggle in my left foot.
Blue start for me at VLM. To get GFA I need a 3:15, but I think that is just beyond me for this year.
Good luck to everyone racing or LSRing this weekend.
I've still not decided which run to do tonight. Freemers I'm tending to think my 15 with 12 @ MP is more important than the duration run so that's the one I'm focusing on. Plan is to set out tonight and if its mega windy (looks like it is) I'll do the duration and leave the effort one for Sunday. The thought of running for 3:15 straight after work is making me feel a bit since about half of it will be in the dark, which means round and round the small town.
Oompa, you are a contradiction! Only 4 weeks to go, with that calf - almost cotton wool time.. any need to race the half fully, rather than MP, maybe with some miles around it?
Simon, a lot of miles in that bike plan, much respect. (does a lot of miles equal a lot of food and cake?).
2old, I know the Runcorn bridge one. Definitely good to do, those odd distance races 4-5.5m I've done for leagues help you push harder at that pesky 10k distance. The 10k on 29th has closed for postal, but not sure about on the day entry.. search for Salford Harriers 10k. There is also Air Products south manchester 10 k 31st if you want the full distance.
10 miles MP for me with pals last night before the snow arrived, first 4m on our hill session route so up & down made it much harder but good practice to cope with surges maybe. Felt good last night. 10m @ av 7:17 with a 6:30 last mile.
Few races already cancelled this weekend, Excalibur marathon in the Welsh Hills, Conniston 14. wonder if O4S's one will go ahead.
Anyone near Leicester area can tell me what the snow is like there? Training course there Mon-Wed and getting train there.
Awful weather, Everyone be careful out there.
2old aren't you lucky getting to spend your pre-VLM hours at the Green start with us lot
Sounds like a good MLR Chick! Hope the wind dies down a bit for Sunday's MLR. Just one more week then taper time, keep at it
Richardson like Minni I'm doing a 10K two weeks before London. I don't think it's too close, or at least I'll find out at London if it is! Is it just for the sake of getting a race in, or to give you an idea of a target time? If it's for the target time I'd go for the 10M, I don't think 10K can give an accurate prediction of marathon times.
I hope Thirsk 10 isn't cancelled on Sunday, partly because I want to run as fast as I can and partly because I CNBA to do a long run on my own in the horrible weather.
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