Minni v Dubai Dave
The theory behind the calculator is, as Freemers says, different formulas for men and women as women have better marathon conversions to men.
Also, the old forumulas are all based on multiplying by 1.06 which seems to work for shorter distances, but over the marathon they have tweaked it so the faster you are the closer to 1.0 you get and the slower you are the worse the conversion is.
Therefore it looks something like:
2:00 marathon - 1.01
2:15 marathon - 1.03
2:30 marathon - 1.05
2.45 marathon - 1.06
3.00 marathon - 1.07
Barry: you have a message!
Hope everyone is recovering well.
Carrot- brilliant report. All the hard work definitely paid off.
Minni- how are you feeling today?
My legs feel like they belong to me again. Slight DOMS remaining but I'm guessing they will be gone by tomorrow. Getting itchy feet as weel... it's so nice out there!
Bro-looks like the marathon will soon be out of your legs
FRC-no wonder those cakes tasted so goodRace today-nuts..its only cos Im jealous.Looking forward to your report
Spoons-will the calculator facrtor in loss of fitness from injury and aging?
Simon-have you given up rowing now?
Free-men have worst conversion rates? First post of the day and you're insulting us
Spoons - didnt race a half this year, off my time on Sunday its predicting a half PB of 1.35.42 which feels fast given I've not done much running at pace. Putting in my times from 2011, its pretty much bang on - only 51s out. Looks like its predicting a realistic time, rather than a best achievable time if you have a good day, which is how I read mcmillan.
Feeling better. I've managed to eat something this morning. My legs are also 100 times better today but I have no desire to run!
Also thinking about the rest of the year and unsure which direction to go. I definitely want to race as many 10 and 5ks as I can because I'm sure I will benefit from this.
I also have the Castles Marathon in October, which I could do for fun. Or do I use my current marathon form to do another pb attempt at the TM (which I think I could do), or do I save it for next year.
I don't think any marathon will ever top Sunday''s.
Either way I'm not going to rush to make any decisions.
Minni, I reckon with a bit of focus on the shorter distances you could smash quite a few PBs in the remainder of the year and then come back with an even quicker marathon next year with the extra speed you've gained. It's not like you need to work on your endurance.
2Old/Freemers - Maybe it's not that men have worse conversion rates, rather that women don't have the pace to run the HM as fast as they should Predictor says I could run a 3:14, but that's based on pre-injury me - right now I'd be happy to run a 2-hour HM and don't think I could even complete a full one!
Daren - I definitely fall into that category. I don't really like to be out my comfort zone and always try and keep things on the right side of difficult. This is why I think racing lots of shorter distances will be good for me.
I will run a sub 1:30 HM this year. There I said it!
no desire to run either Minni I hope there will be another marathon for me to top Sunday because I want to run Boston 2014 Have convinced Mr Chick and he thinks it's a great idea. Plan is to run Boston, spend a few days there, fly to Chicago and then drive Route 66 to LA, with a stop in Vegas for a few days.Now I need to convince my boss that it's a great idea for me to take 4 weeks off next April .... and I need to get a place of course . Oh dear FRC - a race so soon? Ouch.carrot: you always write the best reports. Fantastic .Spoons: that calculator is not bad. It predicted 3:25:24 for me - I was 50sec quicker. It also predicted 3:37:18 for 2010 when I ran 3:38 so it's +/- one minute. Really interesting how women seem to convert better.
I have no doubt you will Minni I'm not so confident I will!
I tried the calculater based on my HM time in March and laughed when it said my marathon time would be 2.56.52 but it was spot on with my 10k time at 40.25 which was my Feb 10k time. But now I have to hope I can gradually return and have a go next year. Even if I run a marathon inthe Autumn it wont be a PB attempt
Minni-now you have a 3.15 theres no looking back-you will have lots of other great marathon experiences ,maybe for different reasons. I had planned blasting the 10ks this summer but now I will have to wait and see. Sub 90 HM is a certainty but maybe choose one which gives you the best chance-not too crowded and not too hilly and build up for it without too many races and taper.I suspect you would destry it then
Chick-you must run Boston-in fact everyone here must-its the very rare race where nearly all entrants must qualify and that is almost as good as having a lucozade top 10% t shirt
Oops-I used the wrong calculator but Im not convinced by it. Using last years March HM time 1.32 it predicts 3.28, but at VLM I did 3.14 and this years March HM predicted 3.12 but I did 3.09 in October . It shows that care is needed in using these calculators as a pace guide. The one I used earlier would result in disaster and this one to possibly underperform. Then again a lot depends on what happens on the day ,the weather , the training , the course ,congestion etc etc.
Simon-Thanks-are you mixing up your biking -its not just??? the long one is it? Im thinking of doing a bit of rowing whilst I cant run
That link gives me a marathon time of 3:22.08!
2old: have you done Boston before? Is it easy to get in? I read something about registration waves and that people who beat the qualifying time by 20mins may register in the first wave. So hopefully I will be OK and get accepted.
Minni - if you put in 1.29.59 you get a predicted marathon of 3.15.35...so really you have no excuse (give or take a few seconds) not to run a sub 1.30 this year
I've just entered my first 10k in about 5 years - my local one in mid June. So long as it's not too hot it'll be a fast one as I know the course well and it is flat.
eeek ... that means if I want to go sub 3:15 next Spring I need to run a sub 1:30 half between now and then
Minni wrote (see)
I will run a sub 1:30 HM this year. There I said it!
I'm also very confident you'll run a sub 1:30 10km Minni
No you don't Chick! We are a special breed on here!
My first 10k is 7th May. It as a hilly first half and is partly off road. It won't be a pb attempt but will start the 10k ball rolling. Then I have another the week after... and another the week after that.... then 3 in June....
When I have a minute I'm going to copy and paste all our race reports into the library. We can draw strength from them in the future.
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