Minni v Dubai Dave
Can you all try this and let me know how accurate it is please. It seems really good.
he's taken all of the race times in his database and amended the formula.
Ran / walked the 5 miles home last night and then BA [who had cycled to work] decided he wanted to go for a walk - a further 3 miles, so all in all 13 miles for the day [slow!!]. Back on the bike for work this morning and just one dodgy moment when I thought my hand wasn't going to manage the brake - still it was only a small child in front
Carrot: love the report, you must both have been on a real high afterwards
FRC: no wonder you didn't recognise me - I wasn't there! I have 'previous' when it comes to passing out in pubs post race so I decided to save BA the embarassment of having to cart me out. As for dealing cakes, not drugs - depends what you put in the cakes
Thanks for all your kind words re both the VLM and the operation, both are already consigned to the 'something to forget' box and thoughts have turned to next weeks 100 mile jaunt. But before that I have another day of answering mindless queries, I'm sure I will have another worthy winner of quote of the day
Kiwi: not particularly lazy I'm afraid.............................
Spoons - Well based on my HM PB (1.34.05) it predicts 3.25.36 for the marathon - but that HM was in the build up to VLM 2011 when I ran 3.24.42, so a minute out. I'd like to see it the other way round - what time could I expect for a HM based on my most recent marathon? I like the way it does men and women separately - clearly men have worse conversion rates
Carrot - brilliant report and a perfected executed race. You so deserve that massive PB
FRC - have fun with the race today I missed you at Chandos but it was great to meet you in the race and after the finish.
My doms are almost gone...just my calves now still feeling tight. Starting to get itchy feet but will leave until at least Friday or Saturday.
Next race for me is the Dereham 10 on May 12th. I last ran in in 2010, when I did 69.xx on the back of a 3.33 marathon....so thinking that time needs a serious re-write! It's a flat and fast course so should be a good one.
I've decided like others I need to work more on my shorter distances, up to HM. Targeting the GER Half in October for hopefully a sub 1.30 attempt. I'll still run the Northumberland Castle marathon end October, but without any time goal.
The theory behind the calculator is, as Freemers says, different formulas for men and women as women have better marathon conversions to men.
Also, the old forumulas are all based on multiplying by 1.06 which seems to work for shorter distances, but over the marathon they have tweaked it so the faster you are the closer to 1.0 you get and the slower you are the worse the conversion is.
Therefore it looks something like:
2:00 marathon - 1.01
2:15 marathon - 1.03
2:30 marathon - 1.05
2.45 marathon - 1.06
3.00 marathon - 1.07
Barry: you have a message!
Hope everyone is recovering well.
Carrot- brilliant report. All the hard work definitely paid off.
Minni- how are you feeling today?
My legs feel like they belong to me again. Slight DOMS remaining but I'm guessing they will be gone by tomorrow. Getting itchy feet as weel... it's so nice out there!
Bro-looks like the marathon will soon be out of your legs
FRC-no wonder those cakes tasted so goodRace today-nuts..its only cos Im jealous.Looking forward to your report
Spoons-will the calculator facrtor in loss of fitness from injury and aging?
Simon-have you given up rowing now?
Free-men have worst conversion rates? First post of the day and you're insulting us
Spoons - didnt race a half this year, off my time on Sunday its predicting a half PB of 1.35.42 which feels fast given I've not done much running at pace. Putting in my times from 2011, its pretty much bang on - only 51s out. Looks like its predicting a realistic time, rather than a best achievable time if you have a good day, which is how I read mcmillan.
Feeling better. I've managed to eat something this morning. My legs are also 100 times better today but I have no desire to run!
Also thinking about the rest of the year and unsure which direction to go. I definitely want to race as many 10 and 5ks as I can because I'm sure I will benefit from this.
I also have the Castles Marathon in October, which I could do for fun. Or do I use my current marathon form to do another pb attempt at the TM (which I think I could do), or do I save it for next year.
I don't think any marathon will ever top Sunday''s.
Either way I'm not going to rush to make any decisions.
Minni, I reckon with a bit of focus on the shorter distances you could smash quite a few PBs in the remainder of the year and then come back with an even quicker marathon next year with the extra speed you've gained. It's not like you need to work on your endurance.
2Old/Freemers - Maybe it's not that men have worse conversion rates, rather that women don't have the pace to run the HM as fast as they should Predictor says I could run a 3:14, but that's based on pre-injury me - right now I'd be happy to run a 2-hour HM and don't think I could even complete a full one!
Daren - I definitely fall into that category. I don't really like to be out my comfort zone and always try and keep things on the right side of difficult. This is why I think racing lots of shorter distances will be good for me.
I will run a sub 1:30 HM this year. There I said it!
no desire to run either Minni I hope there will be another marathon for me to top Sunday because I want to run Boston 2014 Have convinced Mr Chick and he thinks it's a great idea. Plan is to run Boston, spend a few days there, fly to Chicago and then drive Route 66 to LA, with a stop in Vegas for a few days.Now I need to convince my boss that it's a great idea for me to take 4 weeks off next April .... and I need to get a place of course . Oh dear FRC - a race so soon? Ouch.carrot: you always write the best reports. Fantastic .Spoons: that calculator is not bad. It predicted 3:25:24 for me - I was 50sec quicker. It also predicted 3:37:18 for 2010 when I ran 3:38 so it's +/- one minute. Really interesting how women seem to convert better.
I have no doubt you will Minni I'm not so confident I will!
I tried the calculater based on my HM time in March and laughed when it said my marathon time would be 2.56.52 but it was spot on with my 10k time at 40.25 which was my Feb 10k time. But now I have to hope I can gradually return and have a go next year. Even if I run a marathon inthe Autumn it wont be a PB attempt
Minni-now you have a 3.15 theres no looking back-you will have lots of other great marathon experiences ,maybe for different reasons. I had planned blasting the 10ks this summer but now I will have to wait and see. Sub 90 HM is a certainty but maybe choose one which gives you the best chance-not too crowded and not too hilly and build up for it without too many races and taper.I suspect you would destry it then
Chick-you must run Boston-in fact everyone here must-its the very rare race where nearly all entrants must qualify and that is almost as good as having a lucozade top 10% t shirt
Oops-I used the wrong calculator but Im not convinced by it. Using last years March HM time 1.32 it predicts 3.28, but at VLM I did 3.14 and this years March HM predicted 3.12 but I did 3.09 in October . It shows that care is needed in using these calculators as a pace guide. The one I used earlier would result in disaster and this one to possibly underperform. Then again a lot depends on what happens on the day ,the weather , the training , the course ,congestion etc etc.
Simon-Thanks-are you mixing up your biking -its not just??? the long one is it? Im thinking of doing a bit of rowing whilst I cant run
That link gives me a marathon time of 3:22.08!
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