Minni v Dubai Dave
Chick- woohoo!!! Many congrats on the pb. It's always nice to surprise yourself (in a good way). Great racing. Take it easy and let the legs rest now.
2Old- sounds like you're on the mend. Well done on 40mpw, it's more than I'm doing now.
AA-well done braving the freezing water temperatures. I'm not surprised you feel tired!
Col- very well done on the HM, impressive time.
Dale- congrats on the mara, sounds like you got it spot on with the pacing.
Becs- glad to hear things are looking up for you.
Carrot- great parkrunning and hendoing! Sounds like you had fun.
Free- ouch not another one on the bench. Hope it's nothing serious with the hip.
Red- sorry to hear about your dad. Hope things start improving for you soon on all fronts.
Ant- . Better you than me, definitely!
Minni- when are you seeing the physio?
Busy weekend for me running and cycling. Easy 6m on Saturday (what a relief it was to run easy for a change) @ 8.13 and tempo intervals on Sunday in boiling heat but @ slightly more managable than last week 7.08/7.10. Yesterday was spent enjoying the sun and cycling around Richmond park.
Killer track session tonight. 4x 1m @ 6.50 with 2min recoveries (no walking allowed). I think 6.50 is slightly optimistic judging by my last week's 10k performance but will try to get as close as possible. Eeek so not looking forward to it!
The next 10k is on Sunday...
Bro - you're on a similar mental race scedule as me. My next one is next tuesday. Bring it on!
Minni - Complain as much as you want that's what we are here for to share the good times and the bad. I've been keeping busy doing the Insanity workouts, in to my 3rd week and loving it, not as much as running, but it is v tough and I sweat a lot , good job we've got laminate floor.
Red - Sorry to hear about your dad, hopefully they have sorted it. Regarding your running you've got to make some decisions, start looking after your body, if you get injured with the proper preparations it's bad enough but you would n't do speedwork without a long warm up so why do it on the cricket pitch. I know you did n't want to let your team down but your not going to be much use if you are injured for the season.
Ant - That's a tough session, but smile through it and be happy you are doing it.
Kiwi - Sorry to hear you are struggling, have you had your gait/trainers checked recently, many years ago before I started running "seriously" my right knee swelled badly(looked like I had some decent muscles) and that was down to impact.
Chick - Be happy with the doms, shows you were pushing hard.
my next 10k would have been on Sunday too but I binned the idea of doing any more of them. Sunday was as much pain as I could bear what with no proper training for 5 weeks. I'm simply not in the shape to endure another one and I'm bloody glad the old injury hasn't bounced back. It's HADD for me for a few weeks and then back to P&D on July 1st for HM training. I may do another 10k in August. By then I should have some speed back, I hope .BarryB: I read about the insanity workout a while ago and was tempted. We have a tiled floor, so that will be ok . Do you think it's worth it? I'm dreading it a bit coz I have zero strength Bro: enjoy track tonight
Quick check in from me and I've only skimmed back so I've probably missed important stuff.
Chick - well done on the PB
Minni / Kiwi - sorry to hear you're still struggling. Keep up the cross training.
I managed a 20 miler at the weekend which was hot and a bit slow towards the end. Other than that I am so busy at the minute everything is a struggle. Plus no internet at home yet......
Dale J - well done on a fantastic time in the Edinburgh marathon.
Becs - I am pleased to read that it is looking up for you. I hope the progress continues. I didn't manage a pb in my half but I think it gives something to build on for the next one.
Minni - sorry to hear your calf is still not right. Hopefully you can get to the bottom of it soon.
Barry - my next half is mainly flat with only the one fairly big hill at the half way point. I have managed to pb at it twice before. Not expecting to pb this time round but would like to record a time a wee bit quicker than Sunday's half.
Kiwi - sorry to hear that your knees are still not right. It must be so frustrating!
Carrot - good parkrun time there. This saturday I plan to use parkrun as a time trial.
Redwood - I hope your dad is recovering well this week. Also hope your leg settles down.
Ant - that looks a killer session tonight.
10k track training for me tonight. Don't know what the session is but I hope it wont be as tough as Ant's.
Quick check in - great news from the physio. Not much wrong but it's going to be a small fortune and a lots of boring exercises to get to tip top condition. More later but must go to the pub now.
Minni Sounds like good news if somewhat intruiging. Enjoy the pub
O4S I give up. I can't imagine what use was made of those items. Pray do tell!
Spoons - Well done on the 20 miler and on getting the internet on
I have been running so slowly lately with no improvement and was starting to think I was overtrained which seemed a bit starnge after only haveing being running again for a couple of months. I did a HM on Sunday that was too embarrassed to post on here which even though I ran as a training run, I couldn't run any faster than 9 m/m on the flat bits
I had a phone call from the docs today which I;m hoping is an explanation. I had some bloods done as I collapsed out running with what was diagnosed as a hypo and the bloods are showing a low red blood cell count. I've got to go back for more tests but hoping that some iron tablets will sort me out and that I'm not old and past it after all!
Ant- killer10kroutine enjoy!!!
col- have fun on the track
CG- hope all is oK. Any caffeine in your gels ? I'm old and passed it you're not!
minni- don't you just hate it when they say there's not much wrong with you when you can't do what you love
spoons- a 20 miler ? Who does them these days? Nice going
bro- its 40 in a month ! Not a week. wish I was 10k rrunning
chick- all that slow running has made you fast And you're going to get ffaster . You earnt those DOMS ...revel in the pain
barry - any progress?
o4S- is this a running or hygiene thread?
not much sun today.
Damn thread glitches !!!!!!
managed 1.25k swim yesterday and 9mile run today half on beach in a gale and rest in shelter . Achilles feels like a mess of aches temporary pain and strain but it didn't stop me so either I'm mending or getting good at pain management. I love running on the beach.
Sounds like you're being sensible with the hip Free. Still a month to go before training starts for Northumberland?
Red you must be fed up with it now, it must be even more frustrating that you've had to play on while injured because they don't have enough for the team Hope the op has sorted things out for your Dad. I agree, it's a bit of a relief to get the hen do out of the way!
DOMS after a 10K should be expected Chick! You ran fast and hard
Hope the track session was fun (!) tonight Ant? I actually like the sound of that, I like the sessions where you run at different paces.
Likewise Bro -hope it went to plan, although mile reps are my most hated session!
O4S the date for the Northern Veggies is 22nd June. The unusual items sounds intriguing. What on earth can you use a tube of deep heat for other than sore muscles? The mind boggles
What does the insanity workout involve Barry? What's the latest with your calf?
Enjoy the pub Minni, great news on the calf
CG I'm no medic but a low red blood cell count has got to affect your running! A bit like when you give blood and feel like crap for a few weeks afterwards. Daren did this a few times last year (are you still out there Daren?!)
Take care with that Achilles 2old, hopefully it is on the mend! Sounds like a lovely run today.
As everyone is confessing, my next 10K is 16th June. I have another on 3rd July. I have a 5K race and a 5.9mile race before that. Come back marathon training, all is forgiven.
Minni - Sounds encouraging.
Chick/Carrot - Insanity is an intense 60 day program. After seeing FRC'sprogress which included the workout classes I wanted to do include some conditioning work in my training. It's 6 days a week with various workouts(30 to 40 minutes) which is mainly cardio based with emphasis on a strong core. No weights involved and only a couple of the exercises need upper body strength. I was going to do it every other day mixed with running but as I'm not running I'm following the daily schedule. It's ideal for us as I think you have to be fit before starting it as even the warm up get's you sweaty and out of breath and I have n't managed to complete a workout yet without some short breaks. Every couple of weeks there is a fit test and I saw an avg 40% improvement after 2 weeks. I saw it first on one of the shopping channels, check out the website for the inspiring video clips. The good news is the workouts are not causing problems for my shin/calf, going to give it another week at least before trying to run on it though.
sounds positive Minni
Redders - sorry to hear your dad has had a setback. And we understand your frustration over the races. Its always easier for someone else to say but once again think back to Freemers who missed a year and has come back stronger than ever. Be careful out on that cricket pitch!
Kiwi - what did the fizzy say about the knee?
Chick - lol re the doms! 10k doms hurt more than others!
Ant - that is a really good idea to rate each run especially if a problem does occur and then its easier to look back and pin point triggers. That session sounds ! How did it go?
Brol - how did the session go? Pretty too!
Barry - I know that program. Mr Minni wanted to buy it for me last year but I pointed out that I didn't have time. I'll be really interested to hear how you progress through it and what difference it makes. I think if you stick it will make a big difference to your overall strength once back to proper running.
O4S - well done for your cleaning efforts at the weekend! I hear you did a sterling job. Also, Pam is very grateful to you for looking after her so well at the weekend. She was telling me last night how ill she felt in the second half and how sick she was at the end. I've never heard her say 'never again' before! And I've told her that Round Rotherham 2014 is a definite!
Spoons - glad to have you back!
2old - 9 miles? Getting there?
CG - KFC was anemic last year and once she got the iron pills it made all the difference. Hopefully the same will happen for you.
KFC - where are you? I stalked Edinburgh results and see you paced your friend perfectly and had fun on the way!
So yesterday I had an appointment with a sports physio in the muckle toon. There were no appointments for a couple of weeks but I was on a waiting list and they called yesterday with a cancellation so I jumped at it.
I'd written down all my training since Christmas and marked on times where I felt niggles (especially problems with the hip over the months) and the falls where I hurt my shin etc.
He went over the history then I went through loads of balance and fatigue tests - lunges, calf raises, balancing on one foot, measuring calf stretches etc.
He actually said my calves are pretty strong and was impressed with the amount of raises I could do on each leg before signs of fatigue set in and I also have a good stretch range.
However, he feels my glutes and core are weak. Also, as I tire I start to roll inwards on my feet and this is putting unnecessary pressure on my outer calves. (Both calves have felt bashed since the marathon but only the left one has felt 'injured'. Test on both showed they were sore in exactly the same areas).
My left side is definitely weaker than my right - it was obvious to both of us as he worked through. The left hand side of my pelvis is out of line and there's tightness in my lower spine (L4). This all needs sorted, which will improve my running style and insoles will help prevent my over pronation when tired.
He has taped my feet up to mimic the insoles and see how that helps initially and given me a range of excercises to do. He said my core needs serious work .
Apparently I have a good level of strength in some areas but others are really lacking (ie core, glutes) and so he's taken it back to basics and I must start working on those before progressing onto harder stuff.
The sore calf was hardly mentioned! He checked it and didn't think there was much to worry about but unless I address the other problems this will always hinder me.
So, all in all a really good 90 minutes spent. I'm going back tomorrow night for a full hands on session to loosen everything off. He did a bit of this last night and did trigger points on my piriformis - I nearly vomited through the hole in the table!
He want's me straight back running, even if this is just a mile at a time.
I'm feeling much happier!!
Ah, the old trigger point in the piriformis....that's a real favourite of OH's when he gets to work on me! Good news minni in that it sounds like your physio has been very thorough and pinpointed some issues which you can sort out. And you can run!!
I stalked kfc's result too - brilliant pacing
Red - tough times for you...I can definitely understand the injury frustrations - and it's easy to say be paitient and take your time coming back, but it definitely works.
CG - hope the blood tests are OK.
My hip feels a lot better today, but I am going to stick to cycling/cross training again, not taking any chances. Should be able to try a short run tomorrow.
MInni: the insoles [custom made?] completely transformed my running - the only difference being that I overpronate all the time, just getting worse as I get tired. I was on my feet all this weekend without the orthotics and my outer calf muscles are tight and sore now. It is my right side that it weaker and the piriformis trigger points are a horror story in glorious technicolour [and thats just the language]
2old: All the items mentioned were used by runners - either during the event or afterwards with one exception, which was used to help the runners recover - so nothing whatsoever to do with hygiene, except for the Deep Heat
Carrot: Be prepared to boggle!!! The Deep heat was used by someone to clean their teeth.... I asked her if she hadn't noticed something a bit odd about the toothpaste, to which she replied that as it had been in her bag since last year she just thought it must have gone off!! She then confessed that when she realised something was wrong she just kept on cleaning..........................
Minni- great news on the physio front. Looks like you'll be dealing with the cause rather than treating it which is the way to go. Good luck with all the strengthening work... yawn!
CG- hope it's nothing serious and you can get it sorted quickly once you know for sure what the cause is.
2Old- nice beach running.
Barry- your insanity programme sounds interesting, good luck with it.
Free- glad to hear the hip is behaving.
My track session was as expected. I knew there was no way I could stick to 6.50 but did try... 6.47, 7.00, 7.10, 7.09. Ouch! I thought I was going to die after the second one but then it sort of got a bit more managable (and slower of course).
4m steady planned for later today.
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