Minni v Dubai Dave
AA You've had a tough week and maybe your head was just too full of other stuff to focus on the run. You might feel as if you've had a rotten run but you've got a 2hr40 in the bank and a rest tomorrow. Hope things get better next week .
CG Hope you feel better in the morning. I'm feeling a bit under the weather myself tonight but I think it has more to do with the bottle of wine I drank last night . I'll look out for you tomorrow. If I don't see you till the end: have a good one.
kiwirunner10 wrote (see)
What pace do you usually do your general aerobic run at? I managed 7 1/2 miles last night, only averaged 8.45, felt really tired.
My general aerobic pace is about 9 m/m Kiwi but they have generally been a bit quicker on a flatter course and a bit slower on a hilly route. I think 8.45 is spot on. Its weird but sometimes the slower I run the more tired I feel. Good luck you and others, wobbled, with your longs runs.
DD What a Hero....
Dubai Dave wrote (see)
To be honest the inspiration for the last 30 mins yesterday came from this thread, how could I possibly be a mentor on a sub 3-30 thread if I couldn't still churn out a marathon in less than 3-30?
DD, congratulations. Great result.
Mimmi and CG, good luck for tomorrow.
AA, seconded to Mr Spoons comment. Going through tough moments in training definitely helps me going through tough moments in racing.
Minni / CG: good luck for today, its normal not to feel 100% the day before a key race, I was convinced I had a cold coming on the morning of the marathon... Its just your brain playing tricks.
AA: You got out there and did it, we all have tough days. But remember you never regret the runs you did its the ones you didn't do that you regret.
Go well all of you.
AA sorry about the long run, although I agree with others that it sounds like a blip brought on by a hard week. Mine went well yesterday, following a horrible run last week and funnily enough I'd been saying on the general thread that I seem to have a regular 16-miler nightmare that hits early in the campaign, so I think you could be on to something.
Hope you made it out OK today CG, looking forwad to your and Minni's race report.
I thought the "cramping caused by hydration" hypothesis has been largely discredited, unless you listen to Gatorade.
Minni - I'd look towards your training for the answers.
Minni, that's a PB isn't it, so fantastic given the circumstances and at a relatively early stage in your marathon campaign. Have you any more races planned before the marathon?
I read cramps were due to mineral deficiencies, but don't know how reliable the source was.
Minni - I hate to be the bearer of bad news but official time is 1:41. You were a few seconds behind me on gun time and a few ahead on chip time.
Minni passed me at around the 11 mile mark. She was struggling with cramp and I had stitch that was annoying more than painful but I couldn't get my legs moving any faster. I passed her again as she stopped to stretch. Really felt for her but I was suffering my own personal pain and couldn't even summon up any words of encouragement.
I was expecting a few minutes quicker really but I woke with a sore throat and slight cough this morning and it is still early days. I am taking it as an encouraging sign that my HR was a lot lower than I would normally expect for a HM (more like MP) so I wasn't running flat out but I'm not sure why my legs wouldn't let me maintain the pace. The usual pattern is that my HR rises so that it is more effort to maintain pace.
Oh god, that's even worse. I'd gone off my garmin time which is on auto pause when I'm stopped. Forgot about that.
Just downloading my data then I'll report......
We are all in the early stages of our training and need to realise that we are not in peak condition yet. I think our bodies are getting used to the increase in mileage. My legs are still really aching today and it was hurting even taking the dogs for a walk!
Tomorrow is a new week of training and we pick ourselves up and get back out there. It's weekends like this that make us stronger, I swear from experience.
On finishing the race the cramps moved from my legs to my stomach and I've not had a pleasant journey home to say the least!
I'll give you my splits first then analyse .....
7. 7.46 (this was when the first cramp hit in the back of my left leg, took gel, stretched, water)
9. 7.37 (bit of cramp down the front (quad)of my left leg, gel)
10. 7.50 (cramp back to the back (hamstring area) of my left leg and continued on and off from this
I felt really good in the first 5 miles; I felt as if I could go faster and had to slow myself down on several occasions. Then on mile 7 I started to feel the tightness of cramp. I tried to run through it but it wasn't easing. I took a gel and some water, stretched on a fence and it eased. I'd been running with a group who'd quickly got a good bit ahead but during mile 8 I caught then back up. Then during mile 9 I started to feel cramp in my other leg (I'd possibly changed my stride slightly to compensate for left leg...). Again, stopped and stretched. It was back in the left leg by mile 10 and, again, I took on a gel, stretched etc. From here on in I was bothered with it. I took on a form of tourettes punching my leg and swearing at it every time it misbehaved and this cleared it for a time. When the cramp wasn't there I was feeling great and able to pull away but when it hit I couldn't run through it.
I was really mad with myself and could have easily started to cry but didn't want to lose anymore salt through tears......
In 2009 I ran London (3.32) then Edinburgh (3.42), 5 weeks apart, I was troubled with cramp during shorter races for the rest of the year but I wasn't bothered with it last year.
Looking at my training over the past week: I ran the 12 miles fell race 7 days ago which involved a lot of climb and my hamstring has had twinges since. On Friday I ran 10 miles at 8.18 m/m, which I knew was too fast just 2 days before a half marathon.
I think my hydration was ok. I drank the usual PSP22 before the race and made sure I was well hydrated yesterday.
Now for the positives..... I think I ran a 10k pb and certainly ran a 10 mile pb today, but not a half (1.36 back in 2006). My OH ran is first half on the bare minimum of training and finished in 2.17. Very proud of him .
Minni, sounds like it was an incredibly frustrating experience . Well done to your OH .
I managed 6 miles today, bringing me to 13 miles for the week. It's v low mileage but I finished the 6 feeling like I could keep going and so given that 2.5 miles felt tough last week I'm pleased with that progress and it gives me something I can build on. A friend's 5 year old was visiting earlier in the day, and as a result I had Nellie the Elephant stuck in my head the entire run . Lots of tidying up to do now.
I was around lots of people with bad colds this week, which was the last thing I needed, but a combination of echnicea, first defence and vit C seem to have done the job.
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