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28/03/2013 at 13:11

Carl - Milton Keynes or Halstead & Essex marathons are in May.....

28/03/2013 at 13:18


I went out for a very easy run at lunchtime. After 2 miles I was aware of a bit of discomfort in my knee and at 2.5 miles I stopped as it was getting worse so I thought stopping would be the best thing to do.

So, I will obviously carry on with the stretches and I have got another sports massage booked in for next Thursday.

The question is should I carry on running on it or will that do more harm than good ?


28/03/2013 at 13:32

Carter - what a pair you and I have become.

28/03/2013 at 13:33

I know. It was all going so well ofr so long too

28/03/2013 at 13:33

Carter - have you considered running on treddie for a while to take impact out of the equation. You might want to add in a few more massage sessions to speed up recovery.

28/03/2013 at 13:35

This is SO not good!!! I NEED you two to run!!! I so want to see you samsh those times!!  

28/03/2013 at 13:47

Other factors mean that the treadmill is not an option at the moment.

I've got 2 more massges booked in but I'm getting other advice from runners here at work that are suggesting a physio would be better. Any thoughts ?

28/03/2013 at 16:54


Best bet is probably cross training and not running for a few more days. Plus more rest, massage, stretching and exercises etc. Can you ring your massage person for some advice? Or get a quick appointment? Sometimes they do "emergency" 20 minutes slots...

28/03/2013 at 18:55
I've left a message with a local physio to see if I can get in ASAP. Not sure what their availability is with it being Easter
28/03/2013 at 22:07

Big G - those are cracking mile intervals. Well done - u got progressively faster on the first 3 and only tailed off marginally on the last 2 so I wouldn't be too hard on yourself!

Carter - very frustrating. You appear to taking it remarkably well... I remember years ago having a knee problem and switched to a couple of weeks of pure cycling. The knee sorted itself out during the cycling period and I am convinced I came back a stronger runner for it. I certainly didn't lose any fitness. So get on yer bike in the meantime 


Carl - Limerick, Limerick, Limerick....


Last run tonight before my HM on Saturday - took the advice and took it easy. 4 miles on the treadmill. First mile w/up with the middle two @ 7.40 and last mile cool down.

28/03/2013 at 22:36
carterusm wrote (see)

Other factors mean that the treadmill is not an option at the moment.

I've got 2 more massges booked in but I'm getting other advice from runners here at work that are suggesting a physio would be better. Any thoughts ?

Carter - I would see a physio. But as I have said before i know a very good physio so it is a no brainer for me. I feel for you but as spoons suggests. cross training is good. When I was seeing my physio in preparation for my first VLM with a dodgy calf, that was all he would let me do in between sessions as it helped maintain fitness but is zero impact. Try it.

Here am I giving you adviuce and I am not even running. Crazy or what .....

28/03/2013 at 22:43
Spoons. wrote (see)

Carl - first run back should be 5 or 6 miles easy and see how you feel. Glad you are starting to feel better. Difficult decision for you. Honestly I'm not sure what I would do. I would probably just run Paris and the time will be what it will be. Then focus on the autumn. If getting a brilliant time NOW is key then probably best to find a late April / May marathon.


So one plan could be to get a few runs in in the next few days just so I remind myself what putting one leg in front of the other is all about. Then run paris and what will be will be.

Another Plan is skip Paris, sign up for another (I hear Ricky shout Limerick and I have looked at the website) and go after the PB that I am sort of looking for now (will probably be dissapointed anyway but this running bug is a funny thing). Oirish will probably say I should do the one near him in Essex.

Another plan is to run Paris but focus on a marathon in the autumn

Then there is the Cork (hometown sortof) marathon in early June.

And then there is this :

Spoons. wrote (see)

I'm really nervous about saying this but what you could do is to do Paris, jog round it really slowly (10 min mile pace no quicker). Even jog with a minute walk break every mile. Then do another marathon in May and aim for a PB. That will completely depend on how quick you recover from Paris. The quicker you run it, the slower the recovery. Plus if you still have underlying illness that will slow recovery.

I become a mad person and run two marathons in a month.

Now I just have too much to think about .....


28/03/2013 at 23:26

In all honesty I would do the 2 marathons. But I would take the first one really slowly so I get the training benefit without the fatigue. The key is running slowly though. If you're the type of guy that couldn't possibly run paris in 5 hours then it won't work....

29/03/2013 at 06:44

Carl - If it is a  PB you after then I'd skip Halstead & Essex, it isn't a fast course, in fact everyone I've met who has done it before has rolled their eyes when I have mentioned I'm running it. I think my Autumn target for a good time seems increasingly more realistic. 

I'm with Spoons, I think you have to be honest with yourself and ask could you treat Paris as an extended LSR? If so do the  two. June would be good, enough time to recover fully and be primed to go. I'm glad you are on the mend, let's hope all the choices and decisions don't drive you doolally!! 

Carter - Fingers crossed for your knee, what is it about this thread? It is becoming a refuge for the walking wounded. It must be so frustrating for you and Carl so close to your events. Hopefully you'll respond well to physio.

Ricky- Good luck with the HM this weekend, has there been much improvement in the weather where you are? I fancy you are well set for a really impressive time, what are you aimimg for?

All- Any recomendations for an overseas marathon either late summer or autumn? Dublin and Valencia look enticing for various reasons but as in all things in life I am open to suggestion


29/03/2013 at 08:39
Oirish - weather is dry, calm but cold so looks like good running weather for tomorrow I will be content with sub 1.45 , v happy to equal PB of 1.41 (or get quite close) and flabbergasted if I run sub 1.40 (v unlikely)!

Do Dublin! Obviously you won't need sun cream (one less thing to pack/forget)
29/03/2013 at 08:46

Best of luck tomorrow Ricky. Perfect running weather in Norfolk today....

29/03/2013 at 09:04

I'm going to need sunglasses for my run today, this weather is nuts! A great day for a run here too. It's been the wind that has been driving down the temperatures and that seems to have abated a fair bit

Ricky - I'll have 50p wager with you that you equal or better your PB? No running outside it deliberately to bank the wonga mind.


29/03/2013 at 09:29
50p ? You are last of the big spenders Oirish

Carl - is there a deadline when you have to decide if you're running Paris (for flights, hotels etc) ?

Ricky - you've put the miles in so I reckon a decent time is on the cards.

Blue skies in Sheffield this morning too. A lovely day for a run
29/03/2013 at 10:49

Carter - I don't want to put unnessacary pressure on Ricky by going upto a pound.

29/03/2013 at 11:02
Mrs Oirish is a lucky woman to have you
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