Carterusm with Spoons
Shocking what went off in Boston yesterday. 3 fatalities and approximately 30 people who have lost limbs plus many others injured. Why.....
Spoons - I've finally made the decision that I wont be running Manchester. Obviously, I'm very gutted about it but I need to get my knee sorted as soon as possible. I just wanted to thank you for your help in my training over the last 4 months. I'm sure I would have carried on running all my training runs as fast as possible without your advice. But, with your help I found myself in really good shape, for me, and ready to run a good time at Manchester. Everything you have told me I can take with me in my future training so I'm now going to target Chester in October.
Anyway, cheers for your help, I do appreciate it and I'm sure all the others on this thread do to
Dreadful news re marathon in Boston attack. Just so hard to comprehend an attack on such a joyous occasion.
More advice needed- doing first marathon this weekend, VLM.
Since I did my last 32 k run on Easter Monday I have had a bad time training wise.
Did a bit the week after the long slow run but was away for 5 days including the weekend for a work conference.
Then last week-early week was ok, I did my scheduled runs but since Thursday when I did a 5 k run, I have got a nasty cold that spread to my chest. I started wheezing etc on Saturday. I am now on antibiotics and starting to improve so hopefully will be able to take my place on Sunday.
Any thoughts or suggestions on what if anything I should do at the tail end of this week if I start to feel a bit better?
I don't want to have not ran at all between last Thursday and this Sunday with the event itself.
Still unsure what time I should aim for. My half times since the New Year have been 1:42, 1:43 and 1:45.
20 mile race times have been 2:46 and 2:52 at the Ruislip 20 miler. I was much more comfortable at 2:52 then at 2:46. Then last long slow run of 3:10 for 32 k, where I didn't push myself at all.
Amy suggestions on what I should aim for?
I have just come back from the Physio and she was very good. I think I've basically been doing the correct stretches, although she has added another one that I'll have to ask my wife to help me with (I have to kneel with someone holding my heels and then let myself fall forwards in a controlled way).
The physio did recommend getting a sports massage done so I'll look into that.
The physio diagnosed the issue as "hamstring enthesopathy", and recommended getting some Ibuleve gel as well to work into where the hamstring meets the knee. I haven't been taking Ibuprofen and she recommended against doing so. She did want to tape up my leg, but she couldn't as my legs were too hairy and the tape wouldn't stick
Importantly, she didn't tell me not to run so all-in-all I'm happy.
Big G - good news. Why not wax the legs?
Bruno - just a couple of easy 2-3 milers to wake the legs up. You can always incorporate a few strides but no more. Sub 4 sounds very doable. Around 3:50 - 3:55 pace?
Bruno - your easier 20 ml race was @ 8.36 pace so this would suggest you may be able to run 3:45 if you are feeling good on the day. If you felt fairly comfortable at the closing stages of your 2:52 20miler I would suggest you should be running 8.36pace for your marathon... if you are nervous about sustaining that then drop the pace to 8.45 which (similar to spoons suggestion) will bring you in around 3:50.Post your race no. up so we can track you on Sunday morning!Big G - looking good.... borrow Mrs Big G's ladyshave Carter - must be a very "flat" feeling after making the decision to pull out. However you seem to have taken it on the chin and good to see you planning for your Autumn marathon.Switching my runs around this week - my normal tempo Tuesday of 6 miles now moves to Sunday in the form of my 10k race so I did my usual Thursday speed session today instead and will then do my tapering LSR of 14miles on Thursday instead of Sunday.So.... treadmill intervals tonight - 0.5ml warm up @ 9.20 followed by 8 x 0.3mls @ 6.40 with 0.2ml recoveries @ 9.20.. that took me to 4.5mls so ran the final 0.5ml @ 7.04 to make up the 5mls for the session.
Carter - ellyptical trainer and rower are good alternatives.
Thanks all for your suggestions. I was thinking that was what i should aim for so I am glad to have my idea confirmed as being about right. Starting to feel better now so hopefully should be clear by Sunday with the only down side being the bad last 10 days of prep. Sorry to hear Carter about your misfortune, very disappointing.
I will take it handy early on as suggested becuase like you said the infection might have taken more out of me.
Will post the race number up after collection at the excel.
Thanks again to all
Carter - Such a shame that Manchester isn't happening for you this time around, I too am not great when I'm not running and it must be such a downer right now but with a shift of emphasis with your training and I totally believe that you'll re-group and re-focus and comeback fighting.
An autumn marathon than a further PB on the flats of Manchester this time next year what do you reckon?
My training is all a bit up in the air, Sunday's LSR took more out of me than previous runs, I'm putting it down to the poor prep I did so no running for me yesterday either instead I went an donate blood and did an 8 mile walk to shake out my legs, I hope to get out today but Mrs Oirish's brother finally passed away last night after three weeks on life support so God only knows what the day will bring.
Following on from burying my first wives brother last week I just feel totally emotionally exhausted, the pair of them hadn't racked up eighty years between them an leave behind six kids. I think I need to run to feel some normality. You know it's been a bad week when losing a pint of blood and it's the only thing that has made you feel good
Sorry to unburden on you all.
On a more positive note life goes on and we have Bruno in the VLM on Sunday. I hope too still be there cheering you on and I can't think of a more life affirming event to perk me up.
Oirish - I've had my time of feeling sorry for myself and now plan to hit the gym for the next few weeks, take the dog for plenty of walks in the peaks, maybe a bit of swimming etc. I'm feeling more positive about it now and as you say I'm targeting Chester in October and maybe Manchester next year, oh and hopefully a couple of ultras this summer too !!
You've certainly had a hard few days of it so no wonder you feel exhausted mate. Going for a run might just help clear your head a bit as it sounds like you will need to be there for Mrs Oirish over the next few days. You dont have to apologise to us for unburdening such news, we are here to try and give you some support over what will be an emotional time for the Oirish's. When I'm having a rough time I always find a hard long run helps. And the odd beer or two always helps !
Take care mate, you know where we are
Carl D wrote (see)
... You will be fine. .
Bruno, listen to Carl, because just a few short weeks ago he was posting much the same as you are with a severe case of taper madness and we all said he would be fine. He was fine, and some!
Carter, sorry to see you've had to pull out. 4 weeks isn't too long really, if you can do a bit of cycling, rowing, even long walks you won't lose much of the speed & endurance you've gained in the last few months. The first run will feel like you're running through treacle, but the second one will be much better. It's not worth rushing back with ITB.
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