Sarah Osbourne with Minni
Minni - many thanks! And thanks also for the support and advice you have given to all of us on this thread. Thankfully I took your best advice of all - don't be shit!
Angela - don't worry, we certainly won't forget about you. The opposite in fact - all our attention is now on how you are going to do at Halstead, so no pressure It would be nice to keep the thread going to see how everyone does in their autumn marathons (not me, I'm sticking to 10k's and HM's for the rest of the year). And of course we can discuss our training for SF 2015! It sounds like you have had a great holiday, have a safe trip back.
Sarah - my legs were still a bit sore this morning but then I went to the gym and did half an hour on the cross trainer at a low level followed by some stretches and now I feel much better, although I'm not sure I'd fancy running 5 miles tonight. I did go to my running club last night but only so that those of us who did the marathon could have our photo taken wearing our t-shirts and medals, after that we went to the pub.
Sean - well done, I'm looking forward to reading your race report.
Dotty1 - well done as well, that's a great time!
My London Marathon 2013
Due to slow transport services I only managed to arrive at the start area about 20 minutes before ‘KO’ and wasn’t even nearly ready to go, not a fantastic start. I quickly found my way to the green, packed myself up like an old donkey (with carb gels) and made my way to the lorries. Once I had dropped my bag off and only had myself to worry about I made my way to the already completely packed pens. I didn’t have as long as I’d have liked to suss out my best tactics for getting into a more advanced pen, but had a little walk down the line and spotted a marshal chatting to a runner (distracted), so I quickly crept past him and turned my body away from the other marshal and managed to get into PEN 7 undetected. I was aware this wasn’t where I wanted to be, but that I had also just bypassed thousands of people in 8 and 9 and I made my way around to the far edge (as you lovely people advised) front of 7 and therefore, that was a heck of a lot better than I had been looking at 2 minutes before.
At this point we observed the 30 seconds silence for Boston, which by the way was universally flawless in the area I was in, both runners and spectators absolutely quiet. Once the whistle blew to signify the end of this, there was a big cheer and, to my surprise, they dropped the ropes between Pens. To which I looked around and swiftly took advantage of the situation, I went as far down the side as I could and my journey was finally ended around level with the 3:56 pacer and in sight of the 3:45 one. In this regard, I was pleased.
Things started moving and in the early miles I was pretty relieved at how much space there actually was. Obviously I was going to be running where I wanted exactly, but there was definitely to sign of slowing to anywhere the feared complete stop that had been mentioned. I tried my absolute hardest to stay with the pace that was dictated to me by the crowds, always remaining conscious that I should only take the gaps that opened up. I know that MALCS said to avoid jumping on and off the curbs etc, but at a lot of points in the early miles I definitely found it far better than staying in the stressful crowds. Every time I made my way up onto the paths it was due to being cut up and being left with the choice to either expel additional effort in slamming on the brakes, or moving up the curb and continuing there. I definitely feel like the route using the effort to continue momentum was the better bet than using the energy to slow down and then have to speed up again.
In the middle of the race it was SOO WARMMMM, in the suburbia type areas, there was no wind and I was getting rather too warm for my liking. I took on as much water as I could and just ploughed on. I cruised through the miles up to Tower Bridge and felt good at that point.
At halfway I clocked 1:45:53 and was taking things at the pace that came naturally (if not a little slower to be careful). But from soon after halfway and onward, I deteriorated a little then a little more. MINNI was spot on with forecasting my endurance wouldn’t be where I needed it, and although I didn’t feel overly ‘tired’ my legs did start to give up on the pace side of things. My knees hurt and calves were not keen on me either. I took 3 or 4 pauses to stretch out and then shuffled on toward embankment. Once I was nearer 20 miles the heat eased, I assume with the breeze from the Thames. I managed to stay concentrated on taking water on-board every other mile and kept consuming my carbs gels every 4/5 miles even though near the end they were truly disgusting after being slow cooked at 200 degrees in my pockets for the previous 3 hours (NB, Lemon Lime SIS gels are way less ‘gross’ than orange when warm).
Thankfully, time is linear and eventually the end had to come and after more than 3 1/2 hours I was within the last mile (and a bit). Then end still seemed so far away but I just kept saying to myself that if I keep going the end comes quicker. By this point the only time I wanted to beat was my brother’s 3:52 and I was watching my pace and time obsessively, making the required calculations way more times than I’d like to admit. It was almost as though I was a goldfish, every time I finished calculating that my current pace would bring me in with minutes to spare, I started to work it out again ‘just in case’.
Long story short, I blooming did it, and I did it 5 minutes quicker than anyone in my family ever has before. So I’ll choose to ignore the nearly 8000 people in front of me and just focus on that. My legs wouldn’t work and when I finished I was very much of the mind-set that it was all a very stupid idea and that everyone around me were similarly stupid for submitting themselves to such a thing voluntarily. It’s fortunate that I didn’t write this then really, lol.
Something that did help was that on my way to my charity’s meeting place some elderly ladies stopped me to congratulate me on finishing and told me how incredible I was, that helped a lot actually. What also helped was that she had to ask me how long her son might be before he finishes as he is about 6 miles away.
Anyway, that’s me, first marathon done, looking forward to applying in the ballot on Monday.
Thank you all for your advice and help along the way. And well done on all beating me in the race, (swines) ha.
Sean - very well done. You've every right to feel pleased. You will have learned so much from this marathon and I'm sure you'll knock loads of time off that next time.
Sean - great report! You did a fantastic job there. Nice work on the pens - respect for getting so close to the 3:45 pacer! There's absolutely no doubt it would have been much harder for you if you'd been at the back.
London is always warm. It bugs me when they say on the commentary that it's perfect conditions for running. Ask anyone doing it and they will tell you it is a long way from perfect.
I agree with Minni - you will have learned more than you know from this. You also got a load of things right, which is very hard on your first attempt. You didn't go off too fast. You took on the gels at regular intervals and crucially you managed the mental side well - this is critical for a good finish.
If you don't get in on the ballot do a smaller marathon instead. You'll find it easier to pace properly and if it's earlier in the spring and not in the capital then it might be cooler too.
Most important of all, come back here and share the training journey. Whether it's with us or on another thread you will benefit massively both from the advice and the moral support.
With your HM time you should easily be aiming sub 3:30 next time and longer term even quicker than that. Get that endurance up (that was pretty much all I focused on this time) and you will decimate your already very good time.
Well done once again!
Sean - nice one, it sounds like you ran a really good race. Next time I'm sure you will get under 3 1/2 hours now that you have the experience - I've only done three marathons but I've learned a huge amount each time, both about running the race itself and the training and preparation.
Malcs - I meant to say before, I read your race report on the other thread, that is really inspiring stuff! There is a quote which has been going around since events in Boston, I'm not sure where it originates from - "If you are trying to break the human spirit, marathon runners are the wrong sort of people to pick on", and I think your experience illustrates that perfectly.
Angela - Wow, you've got a busy year! I tend to leave gaps of two or three years between my marathons and don't do too much cycling so I can't offer much advice I'm afraid. One for Minni I reckon.
In case anyone is interested you can see our running club's marathon finishers photo here - I'm the one on the far right.
The guy next to me was the oldest competitor in the race (he's 82), so I look forward to discussing all of your training plans for the 2050 VLM.
I have to say the finishers' t-shirts were much smarter than usual this year.
Dotty we must have been running quite close to one another at some point then as I was near him then aswell!
Yesterday, my left leg felt great but the hamstring in my right leg was quite tight when I first started running. It loosened off at about 3 miles, when I stupidly picked up my pace. To be honest if my hamstring hadnt felt a little tight, my legs would have felt normal and as though I hadnt even run a marathon on sunday.
The course had one big long hill (mile 2) but that was it. If I was still being mentored I think I would have been told off about last night (I did the first and third mile at 7:09 m/m, the 2nd mile at 8:02 m/m and the last two at 6:35 m/m - opps)!!
Was worried about my legs afterwards but we had about a mile walk to get to the car and then I did lots of stretching. They feel fine today but im going to rest now until sunday
Malcs wrote (see)
No, not clever at all really. Most of the fancy stuff was done by the guys with PhDs but I did manage to absorb a bit. Mrs Malcs is still none the wiser so shh, keep the noise down! Yes York is firmly on my radar too - funny really as my quads are still mush. But don't you have a small matter of a 24hr race and 3 mountains to climb first?! I dont wana sound like one of those annoying people, but my legs have felt great, with the exception of a slightly tight right hamstring when I ran yesterday they have felt normal. My 5 mile recovery run didnt work well yesterday, managed to run 5 miles in 35:38 in the end - got a bit carried away - opps!
No, not clever at all really. Most of the fancy stuff was done by the guys with PhDs but I did manage to absorb a bit.
Mrs Malcs is still none the wiser so shh, keep the noise down!
Yes York is firmly on my radar too - funny really as my quads are still mush. But don't you have a small matter of a 24hr race and 3 mountains to climb first?!
I dont wana sound like one of those annoying people, but my legs have felt great, with the exception of a slightly tight right hamstring when I ran yesterday they have felt normal. My 5 mile recovery run didnt work well yesterday, managed to run 5 miles in 35:38 in the end - got a bit carried away - opps!
E I forgot about those...im sure they will all be good preparation for york (fingers crossed). need to start practising running twice in one day
Looking at the map, sandstone trail looks tough Mr P....good luck
Hi Sean a huge congratulations on a fabulous first marathon time (identical to mine). I suffered like you in my first marathon due to a lack of endurance, but I concentrated on that area this time round with Minnis help and found the whole run fantastic this year. I loved every minute of it, such a contrast from last year. Im so glad that I had a second attempt and didnt let the horrors of my first marathon stop me and haunt me forever.
Well done on pen jumping too, im impressed
Hi Andy, im loving the photo. Your club put it up on the internet quickly! The 82 year old gentlman certainly doesnt look his age.
I had to give my top to the OH as its too big for me....again
How are your legs today after the cross training?
My right hamstring was tight when I first started running yesterday and then loosened off my mile 3. Other than that my legs felt great and as though I hadnt run a marathon. I even managed some sub 7 min/mls....although that wasnt entirely intentional!
Hi Angela...im alittle heavier than that now....the joys of sitting on my bum all day made me gain alittle weight, but my BMI is more normal now at 19.5!
How did your run go today?
12 miles sounds a nice distance to run this week. At what sort of pace?
How long is it between your bike ride and marathon?
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