RW Forum Six – Sub 5 Vanessa Ford with Plum

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Plum    pirate
17/03/2013 at 16:06

you will be pleased or distressed not sure which to know it wasnt.......underprepared, undertrained and under no illusiuon that ir was going to be easy I went for longs and a helly under the singlet and an 8 1/2 min mile strategy

A parka, a zimmer frame and a wetsuit would have been a better choice........ ws quite pleasant for the firs 5 miles, nice and easy no rushing, in survival mode.    then the rain started and gor harder then turned to sleet then snow,,,,,, then it stopped then it repeated itself, but harder,,,,, Hip flexors started playing up at about 10 but got really tight by about 15 and it ws a run walk cry strategy from then on in and even actually walked the whole of the last mile,  .    Over the hoped for 3 hours but at least I can have a crack again next week and see how it all holds together.......
took me about a long ad you in the shower to defrost


I hope you get the heel pain sorted, if it is impact related then maybe some of the sorbothane heel only inserts might help but if it is a spur or suchlike I ill leave it to the experts


In what way did you run out of steam

17/03/2013 at 16:24
I started to feel it harder and harder to keep my legs moving then literally got to the point were I just couldn't run any further. I had a good nights sleep, same breakfast strategy as last week, same clothes, same trainers so I'm not sure of the reason. Maybe (hopefully) it was just one of those s*** runs and the next one will be better.

Sorry to hear yours wasn't a great one either. Better luck for both of us next time I think.
Plum    pirate
18/03/2013 at 10:17

Indeed...... omwards and upwards   


If it was easy every couch potato would be doing it and we wouldnt be such heroes

Plum    pirate
21/03/2013 at 22:25

Hows the heel coming on

22/03/2013 at 07:52

Sorry for radio silence - what with kids and training courses it's been a busy one.

The heel (after much pain, stretching etc. Sunday) was fine Monday so I did my 6 mile run then. Partly because it WASN'T RAINING! and partly because I wanted to reassure myself I still could after Sundays crappy run.

  • Dist: 6.2
  • Time: 01:01:54
  • Splits: 10.29, 9.58, 9.39, 9.45, 10.04, 10.04, 1.55
  • 15 mins stretching


  • Dist: 3.17
  • Time: 27:18
  • Splits: no split
  • 15 mins stretching


  • Dist: 4m
  • Time: 39:54
  • Splits: 10.30, 9.47, 9.38, 9.58
  • 10 mins stretching

The heel doesn't hurt when I'm running but seems to start when I'm sitting - when I get up it's quite painful but the stretching does alleviate it.

The plan for tomorrow is 18 miles but the forecast is hideous and I'm tempted to use Hubby's guest pass at the gym and attempt it on the treadmill. What do you think?


23/03/2013 at 12:52

14 miles run on the treadmill - how boring was that . I could have run further I think but I'd lost the will to live and it was to hot in there.I will try and get out for a few more miles tomorrow but the weather is crap.

Plum    pirate
25/03/2013 at 08:52

14 miles ...... how on earth did you retain your sanity....


Saturday was just to nasty here for anything so sat indoors on the turbo for a couple of hours and that is mind numbingingly boring as well...... got my self out the door into biting cold wind on Sunday for another planned 30k but it was again a complete mess up..... really struggled from about 10k and had I been alone the bus pass would have been used, the bottom lip was out and teddies were flying.  managed 26k but it was horrid......but legs are surprisingly fine today..... wierd


When is your holiday?

27/03/2013 at 06:34

Oh dear Plum, that sounds grim.

Will post this weeks miles later as I can't find Garmin lead. Camping holiday has been cancelled to to deep snow on our proposed camp site so I will be running a 14 miler with the local running club Sunday then running home. That should notch up 18/19 miles then a couple for recovery Monday and 6 miles Tues. We (hopefully) fly out to Turkey Weds (problem with tickets - don't ask).

Plum    pirate
28/03/2013 at 22:26

Goodness me    not your week is it, hope the tickets get sorted soonest......

look forwad to the long run numbers

Boot camp weekend for me with 2 long runs a long and a short bike and a swim as well as pilates and a weights session...... i like not having to work


29/03/2013 at 16:19

I haven't done any weights for ages and am a bit worried about starting again now in case I hurt myself - should I do you think?

This week so far:


  • Dist: 1.66
  • Avg Pace: 9.54 min/mil
  • Time: 16:27
  • Splits: no split
  • 10 mins stretching


  • Dist: 3.17
  • Avg Pace: 8.41 min/mil
  • Time: 27:32
  • Splits: no split
  • 15 mins stretching


  • Dist: 8m
  • Avg Pace: 10:18 min/mil
  • Time: 01:22:28
  • Splits: 10.35, 10.20, 10.12, 9.59, 10.13, 10.18, 10.33, 10.15
  • 15 mins stretching

Still having a few niggles with the heel after running but stretching etc. seems to get rid in a couple of hours.

I hope your boot camp weekend is not to taxing .

31/03/2013 at 13:34

Lovely day for a run - 17.5 miles in the bag (it would have been 18 but I got to my house at 17.5 and couldn't make myself run past it )

  • Dist: 17.53m
  • Avg Pace: 10:42 min/mil
  • Time: 03:02:44
  • Splits:



















  • 15 mins stretching


That felt much better than running on the treadmill but everything aches now so more stretching this afternoon.


I ran with a group for the first 10 miles then with another run for the next 4 but she had to keep stopping with knee pain so walked home and I ran the last on my own but it actually wasn't to bad. It helps that the floods have receded and the sun is out.


The heels a bit sore post run and I have blisters on the ends on 3 of my toes - is this because my shoes aren't laced tightly enough do you think?


How was your long run?



31/03/2013 at 13:34

Sorry, couldn't get the splits to line up nicely

Plum    pirate
01/04/2013 at 19:54

"The heels a bit sore post run and I have blisters on the ends on 3 of my toes - is this because my shoes aren't laced tightly enough do you think?"

Maybe that the soles of the shoes are geting a bit tired is the reason for the sore heels?  How old are the shoes mileage wise

Toes could be bashing on the front of the shoes yes, but the problem is if you lace the shoes up tightly whn you start your feet WILL swell and you will suffer more.....................  even after the number of marathons I have done I still beat the ends of my toes to crap   

"I haven't done any weights for ages and am a bit worried about starting again now in case I hurt myself - should I do you think?"  nope not really any need IMHO


01/04/2013 at 20:04
Shoes have only done 100 odd miles as they were my new pair so I could dry my others out. Have posted another thread about blisters by I've been advised to buy another pair half size bigger. I'm tempted to try vaseline in the toes first though.

Sore heel is due to heel bursar (according to sports masseur) and I've been managing it with ice, massage and stretching - the toes are my concern at the moment.

Did you get your 20 miles in at te weekend?
02/04/2013 at 18:09

Have ordered new trainers - don't want to take the risk

Plum    pirate
03/04/2013 at 23:10

managed 26k in the biting wind it was horrid, pretty stupidly I ran along the river as well so pretty exposed most of the route....

I had done a lot in the previous 3 days though so taking that into account. 

2 runt totalling 18 k on Good Friday 

80 miles on the bike on saturday and a 5k jog

13k on sunday followed by a swim and a weights session and stretch in the steam room

26k on the Monday


Are the trainers bigger than your current ones?

07/04/2013 at 18:28

Wow, that's a lot of work. Hi from Turkey, no runs managed yet but im out in the morning. New trainers are bigger so here's hoping

Plum    pirate
07/04/2013 at 22:09

Half for me today at a pace that should have been easy but it wasnt........


Weather was lovely, I was pretty rested no excuses.......

Plum    pirate
12/04/2013 at 17:15

I trust you are having a wonderful time out there in the sun young lady

13/04/2013 at 18:03

Good luck tomorrow Plum.


Just arrived home so will post properly after tomorrows (hopefully) 20 miler

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